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TLV #140: Dead Coach Walking?

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Houston Nutt: Dead Coach Walking?

Rebel fans, it's that time again where, a few times every decade or so, we decide that the man at the helm of our football program ain't cutting the mustard for us and begin to look elsewhere for a suitable replacement.

If you don't at all know what I'm talking about, spend five minutes on any Ole Miss related blog or forum. Fans aren't happy with last week's defeat at the hands of the Vanderbilt Commodores, nor are they generally pleased with the direction of the program. It seems to us at the Cup that Houston Nutt's firing is nothing more than a formality at this point; he's a dead coach walking.

So, with that in mind, this column will be our take on who our next head coach should be. We aren't going to name names; we are just going to discuss a list of what we feel are ideal qualities for this job. We are going to do our best to really outline what we are looking for in a football coach, so we won't let this devolve into an "anybody but Houston Nutt" type of piece.

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Our perfect head coach needs to be able to take the talent we can bring to the university and put them in a position to beat the superior talent other, bigger schools can attract. Wins against Alabama and LSU may be too much to expect on a recurring basis, but a scheme that isn't set up to simply match our talent versus theirs is the first step. If the next coach can effectively realize that our talent is not equal to that of Alabama's, perhaps he could devise a scheme to use the talent we do have more efficiently. That's the only way we'll be able to somewhat consistently beat teams that are "better" than we are.

Past the scheme of the head coach himself, he needs to be willing to serve as his own coordinator on one side of the ball. With the huge buyout away with which we're likely to be sending Nutt, we simply cannot afford to pay an offensive coordinator if our head coach is also an offensive-minded coach. The same works for defense.

Under this same umbrella, the coach must be willing to hire a coordinator on the other side of the ball and let him do his work. When Orgeron arrived, he forced every offensive coordinator to run the USC offense. There's a reason Orgeron coaches defensive linemen, and it's not because they have to make complex decisions on the field. If you think highly enough of someone to give him reign of half your football team, let him actually do that.

 The state of Mississippi generally produces legitimate talent in the high school ranks. Sure, there's not enough to go around for Ole Miss, State, and Southern Miss, but we need to have a coach who is capable of bringing in the talent at the top. For Ole Miss to win, it cannot rely on Florida, Louisiana, and Texas' players. Sure, those states have some talent, but the backbone of the team must come from within the state of Mississippi with players who want to win for the Magnolia State.

This means that the head coach needs to bring in coaches who relate to the recruits well and make them feel comfortable. A recent trend that must stop is allowing half of the staff to spend little if any time on recruiting. Recruiting is the lifeblood of a program and, without it, you cannot succeed in the Southeastern conference.

Also, the perfect head coach is able to take the raw talent we bring in and then develop a player who doesn't constantly make glaring mistakes and progresses throughout four years.

Being able to occasionally beat a team ranked higher than us is a great gift. Being able to not lose to teams considered to be inferior to us is more important. Sure, Ole Miss isn't going to make it to Atlanta without beating a few teams with superior talent, but if we can simply win the games we're supposed to win, we can build towards a goal of Atlanta slowly. This 4 win, 3 win, 9 win, 9 win, 4 win crap has got to stop. Think of Ole Miss in the late 90's and early 2000's; that's what we'll need to see as far as results.

He needs to be above subtle jabs at Mississippi State. We're better than that, and we know it. He needs to bring an excitement to the program which hasn't been seen since Eli Manning was under center. He needs to want to see Ole Miss win insomuch that his very sense of self worth hinges on it. He needs to be dynamic and understand what it is that makes Ole Miss what it is in order to truly rally fan and player support.

But, most importantly, he needs to get his team prepared to win some damned football games...

Whoops. I guess this did devolve into an "anybody but Houston Nutt" type of column afterall. Oh well.

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I like this very much but,

I don’t think wins against Alabama and LSU on a recurring basis are too much. I do not want to be satisfied with mediocrity. I understand that we might not be able to win the NC every year, but we should be able to compete in the SEC every year.

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by Duece's accoutant on Sep 22, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

My point was that

we can build towards that. A new coach is not going to be able to get us there early. he just needs to not lose games to Jacksonville State and Vanderbilt.

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by Juco All-American on Sep 22, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very True

I’ll be happy when we get a coach that doesn’t make me want to punch infants when I watch us play.

In my body, where the shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland. True story.

by Duece's accoutant on Sep 22, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

A couple of things

1. Where do you sit? Need to make sure I don’t bring my babies around you during gametime.

2. Would you be Deuce’s accountant before or after all of the car dealership lawsuits?

by factord_agin on Sep 22, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair...

Deuce was trying to sell luxury automobiles right off Ellis Avenue in Jackson.

"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd

by Mexter Dccluster on Sep 22, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now wait...

I’m from South Jackson and I don’t remember a Deuce dealership on Ellis. I do remember a Nissan dealership “on the hill in south Jackson”, where he was robbed blind by a couple of shady managers and their cohorts.

Here’s hoping the aforementioned accountant is part of the team trying to put Deuce’s finances back in order.

by factord_agin on Sep 22, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, not right off Ellis.

But close enough. My point is that anybody who thought it’d be a good idea to try to sell luxury automobiles in South Jackson in the mid-2000’s should have fired their accountant.

What was the deal with the shady managers and all?

"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd

by Mexter Dccluster on Sep 23, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

and accountant

But I figured/hoped it was intentional.

I still giggle a bit when I say Nutt

by Sideline Snead on Sep 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It was intentional

However, I’m not very funny so there is that.

In my body, where the shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland. True story.

by Duece's accoutant on Sep 23, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha love it

I still giggle a bit when I say Nutt

by Sideline Snead on Sep 23, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

One of these days

I’m going to realize I’m not funny and just stop, but until then the lame jokes shall continue!

In my body, where the shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland. True story.

by Duece's accoutant on Sep 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Self-aware lame jokes

are meta. Carry on.

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by Mexter Dccluster on Sep 23, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

"We are going to do our best to really outline what we are looking for in a football coach, so we won’t let this devolve into an "anybody but Houston Nutt" type of piece."

One thing I’ve noticed is a lot of the discussions on this topic have pretty much become exactly this. Let’s face it, there are a LOT of coaches out there far worse than Houston Nutt, so this is a dangerous stance to take. Considering Pete Boone is probably going to be hiring the new coach (if there is one) I’m afraid this is pretty much what we’re going to get and things are going to go backwards, not forward.

I’m probably alone here but I don’t think Nutt is definitely on his way out no matter what. I do think the way things are headed he’s definitely gone and he’s hanging on by a thread now, but I don’t think he’s quite gone just yet. Things have to change in a hurry though, and by “in a hurry” I mean “immediately.”

The article was pretty good, but I’m not a fan of the head coach being a coordinator too. Right now I’m about to the point where I’d rather Nutt take over playcalling again if David Lee is really the one doing that this year, but it’s not an ideal situation. Only a few coaches can pull it off. I’m going to bet Ole Miss won’t be able to hire any of them.

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by Wild Rebel on Sep 22, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a name:

Kent Austin. There is a name for you. And comes at a discounted price: Head Coach and OffCord in one.

by TupeloRebel on Sep 22, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

He was 2-10 at Cornell.

I know everybody loves Kent because of his Ole Miss ties and history, but he hasn’t shown us anything to suggest he’d be a good SEC head coach.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 22, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just looked up cornells stats in 2010.

10 interceptions no TDs.
49 KRs no tds
19 PRs no tds
between 14 recievers 8 Tds
their main QB went 314 for 174. had seven tds and seven interception. and had 1,723 yards

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by Duece's accoutant on Sep 22, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

REC'd

Considering changing my name to RebelBlackBearsConception

by ColRebsLastBreath on Sep 22, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

NEW COACH?

I still think Mike Leach would be a great hire. If you don’t beleive me, read his book. Also, while we are in the firing mode, fire Boone too. We a real AD, not a business man.

by REBEL4312 on Sep 22, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

reading his book now (well not exactly right now)

its an interesting read into the psychology of the man, and while I will admit he is a nut (on “t”), he is extremely intelligent and forward thinking, on and off the football field.

Just another "good for nothing law school grad".

by RebelBarrister on Sep 22, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

He’d even teach Pete Boone not to pee in his tent…. if you’ve read the book you’ll get that.

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by hottytoddy07 on Sep 22, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Other important qualifications that should be added:

1) Properly understands the NCAA redshirt rules.

2) Speaks proper English with moderately decent grammar and syntax.

3) Willing to hire coordinators who have never worked with him before (if necessary).

by bball1984 on Sep 22, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

But you said Houston Nutt was a great coach. lol

Remember everyone that Houston Nutt is a fantastic football coach! Arkansas was foolish in letting him slip away; those stupid hillbillies. Look at how that Arkansas program has suffered since he left and how great and mighty the Ole Miss Bear Back Rebels are doing. REMEMBER ALL THAT BECAUSE I DO!!! RFLMAO @ U OLE MISS FANS!!!

by Nutt is the Greatest on Sep 22, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Who let you out the trailer!?

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by Duece's accoutant on Sep 22, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by Duece's accoutant on Sep 22, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO!!! You losers just don't get it; are you really this stupid???

It is not about NUTT you bunch of morons. LOL It is about you fools and the way you all acted like a bunch of 10 year olds when Arkansas ran off Nutt and you ushered him in like he was some great find. For the record I am not an Arkansas fan or a Miss St fan; it just makes me happy to see the “we know it all” Ole Miss fans get what you deserve. Now shut up and take your medicine like 10 year olds should. GO BOISE ST!!!

by Nutt is the Greatest on Sep 22, 2011 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

But we didn't do tha-

Oh. You almost got me. ALMOST.

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by Juco All-American on Sep 22, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you're good.

This is that “Troll of the Month” thing we talked about a while ago, right? Has to be.

...I'm probably in Hume Hall

by Nerd the Rebel on Sep 22, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has to be.

Surely this isn’t a real person. Methinks its one of our own fucking with us.

"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd

by Mexter Dccluster on Sep 22, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this GrayGhost?

I still giggle a bit when I say Nutt

by Sideline Snead on Sep 22, 2011 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nope!

But he does have a point.

by GrayGhost on Sep 23, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leach said

He wants to go somewhere with good graduation rates, and a Stable Administration. I’m guessing since Powe made it through, the graduation rates are fine, but with all of the fire Boone, fire Jones talk going around, I doubt he’s interested.

It may be just as cheap to have 2 coordinators and hire a young coordinator for head coach.

by Save Bandit on Sep 22, 2011 2:49 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

People who talk about firing Jones

are not people to be listened to.

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by Mexter Dccluster on Sep 22, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Second

I don’t understand how he is being caught up in all of this. The university does more than play sports, right?

...I'm probably in Hume Hall

by Nerd the Rebel on Sep 22, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he doesn't go to UGA, Kirby Smart.

What this program needs more than anything is consistency. That’s what “The System” that Saban runs is all about: cold professionalism. You set the standard at which you expect every player to perform, and then you do not deviate one inch from it.

This up and down performing that Nutt’s teams always do is for the birds. Give me the guy who makes his players perform at a high level every week.

Smart has what could end up being the best defense in college football history this year, and he’s spent years working for the best college football coach in the nation. Offer him an amazing salary and pray to G.A.Y. that he’s not represented by Jimmy Sexton.

by JimHalpert on Sep 22, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd. Rec'd. 1000 times Rec'd.

Though I doubt we’ll be able to get him, I think Kirby Smart is the closest thing to a slam dunk hire we could get. He’s a defensive guy that knows how a successful football program is built and sustained. Any guy that has connections to Saban is a huge plus. Look at Derek Dooley. Even though Dooley hasn’t set the world on fire at Tennessee, you can tell he’s trying to raise the standard and rebuild a football team that looked like it would be in major decline with all of the transition bullshit they went through. Here’s a quote from him after they had a shitty practice one day and then a “more spirited” one the next day:

“It’s really no different, and what I talked to them today about (is) just defining a standard of who you are as a man and who you are as a competitor, and challenging yourself every day to meet that standard and not succumbing to the desires of the world or how you feel to where you might compromise that standard.”

That’s the kind of attitude I want our next coach to have.

I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.

by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Sep 22, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This kind of mentality is dying

But I would love to see a football or basketball coach with this mindset lead our program. We need someone who is going to really set a high standard and hold the players accountable for reaching it.

by bball1984 on Sep 22, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Alabama system would never work at Ole Miss.

The Alabama system =

Have the offense not screw up
Field an NFL defense

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by Juco All-American on Sep 23, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're thinking too hard about this.

It’s not an argument from an X’s and O’s, recruiting, or gameplanning standpoint. It’s just a matter of having a guy who sets a standard and doesn’t accept when such isn’t met.

Houston Nutt is complacent. You know it. I know it. We all know it. Nick Saban (and his minions) aren’t complacent with anything.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 23, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ole Miss can always get this guy cheap.

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by Wild Rebel on Sep 22, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

the problem

There will be some jobs open better than Ole Miss, Ohio state, north Carolina, Georgia prob, ucla, and possibly Arizona & Arizona state. I doubt schools out west look at southern coaches, they tend to prefer NFL coordinators, but UNC and Georgia are great jobs with talent and no rebuilding or fanbase to win over. Nutt is the 18th highest paid coach, and we are overpaying him based on his 4 year record. Mullen will not win against a western division opponent except us. They lose a lot this year. If we fire Nutt, there is possible transfers, while we I think we need a change due to the amount of buyout and need to sign a great coach , we will probably need to wait one more year. I know that’s not what people want to hear but it is the smarter move, versus firing him and having to settle for someone that is questionable at best. I think Leech will still be available after next year.

by hotstove97 on Sep 23, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

At first I thought your post reasonable,

And then I thought about it for 3.2 seconds. If Nutt stays this year, as you suggest, we’ll prob still have transfers simply bc they don’t want to play for him another second. Can’t blame them there.

The only advantage, and I mean only, of keeping Nutt is that we need to get a new AD first, and then hire a coach. Otherwise, we’re stuck with another Pete Boone hire who will not work out for us.

by factord_agin on Sep 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone find it interesting, funny, and/or agonizing

that Nutt can inspire such extreme loyalty and such extreme hatred from the same group of people within such a sport span of time? He’s done this twice now. I’m starting to believe that it’s not the fans that are to blame for that.

by TheOnlySouthernMissRebelFan on Sep 23, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Fire Boone; then Fire Nutt

Nutt is far from the greatest coach. He’s not the disciplinary nor the motivating coach we need at Ole Miss. But as a grad of UM I have seen things go south since the arrival of Pete Boone.
1. I was a men’s basketball season ticket holder and held the same seats for 10 yrs. until 2004 when I and all season ticket holders were told that in order to continue as a season ticket status we must now start to donate to the loyalty fund…(which at time was an additional $250) plus buy our tickets. I did this for 1 yr. and I noticed that all the familiar people that I sat by years at the tad pad had stopped coming…my guess was the loyalty fund.
2. All of our athletics have gone downwards in terms of success.
3. The expansion and new construction project is the only plus to Boone’s resume. And even that has quite a few gripes about it such as it should’ve been brought public more that just one week before the kickoff of the fb season, that way the public would be excited for the program and the upcoming fb season thus creating more public donations. All the buzz has been drowned out by the direction of our fb program.
I could go on but my point is that we need a new AD before a new coach. Our AD should be someone young and energetic.

by Ole Miss 2.0 on Sep 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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