Monday Discussion: Masochism Edition
by Sir Francis Drank on Aug 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT
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PrintI have a theory that October 20, 2007, was the single worst day in Ole Miss athletics of the past decade or so. There's a chance that you were able to successfully repress this memory, so I'm going to take out the proverbial doll and remind you exactly where it touched you (Hint: It's the heart, the head, and probably the liver.) The Arkansas game of that year ended in a 44-8 Razorback rout. Inexplicably, a Rebel team with BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Shay Hodge, Mike Wallace, and Dexter McCluster managed to successfully avoid the end zone until late in the fourth quarter. Seth Adams also threw four interceptions. There is a correlation here.
But Ed Orgeron was nothing if not a showman, and someone in the sports marketing department planned a fireworks show to announce a new capital campaign. Which is great, right? Everyone likes fireworks! At 2:30 in the afternoon! In the Mississippi sun!
(Via: FOTP)
They're so majestic! And also set some bushes on fire and knocked out power to half of campus and the stadium.
I would like to humbly nominate the 2007 Arkansas game as the low point in Ole Miss Athletics over the past decade or so. Let's hear your thoughts, but first a reminder. The past decade has seen home losses to Wyoming and Jacksonville State, a basketball coach arrested for allegedly causing an international incident, Hurricane Orgeron, and the ignominious theft of pillows and alarm clocks from hotel rooms in the greater Opelika, Alabama metropolitan area. So drag up all those deeply repressed athletic memories, and please, don't limit yourself to one sport or one incident. Remember, We Are Ole Miss, and we have kept the "fun" in "dysfunctional" since 1848.
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Jacksonville State loss. Easy.
We had a 21 point lead at halftime, and managed to let them tie it up and win in overtime. How does that even happen?
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 15, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
Not even close.
Embarrassing? Yes. Deflating? Yes. Ridiculous? Yes. Horrible effing way to start a season? Absolutely. But the events that unfolded Oct. 20, 2007 was the absolute low point of my Ole Miss fandom. It’s the one and only time I’ve ever packed up and left the Grove in the daylight.
I will fix that immediately. thanks
give the governor a harrumph
by Sir Francis Drank on Aug 15, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you're welcome....
no need in pissing off the sports gods on our upcoming trip to Auburn…
2003 LSU and the Thursday night Bradley Sowell was happy about getting that #4 ranking “out of the way.” ‘03 was a low point because that may be the closest to the top of the mountain I’ll ever see my Rebs get, and that 2009 USC game will be the night where even the players revealed their “we are Ole Miss” who-cares-let’s-drink syndrome
The 2009 Sakerlina game...
I’ve never been so depressed in my life… that was the game that taught me that you must always bottle your excitement.
...I'm probably in Hume Hall
by Nerd the Rebel on Aug 15, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit...
same here. I had just moved to Bham and me and the one friend I knew from Ole Miss went to Buffalo F’ing Wild Wings with some other people, for some odd reason, to watch the game. It was packed with Bammers cheering everytime USC did ANYTHING. I had a red polo on and I guess some of them spotted me so they decided to point and laugh anytime we blew a play or screwed something up or just even took the field for another set of downs. It was total misery just like that movie staring Kathy Bates aptly titled “Misery”.
Needless to say I’ll never watch a game at such an unsavory place ever again nor will I ever forget that God awful shitstorm that took place in Columbia.
Also, the 2004-2007 seasons all sucked ass.
by Marty McReb on Aug 16, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Jacksonville State and daytime fireworks are right up there for me...
but since they’ve already been mentioned, I’ll just throw out two words:
Doyle.
Jackson.
That was terrible.
I think I had repressed that one. Somehow ended up in the LSU part of the stadium. Could have at least been chillin’ in a box but couldn’t get the message.
I think this proves there is a lot to choose from. Going to go ready my blade to commit ritual seppuku again.
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2008 Vanderbilt
Don’t talk to me about it. Ever.
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by Juco All-American on Aug 15, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
I overheard McCluster's fumble in that game
on the radio in the Lafayette County Detention center, so yeah, fuck that game.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Aug 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I called my brother at home to ask him what the stats were in the 4th quarter (becuase I coudln’t read the scoreboard for shit). It was incredible.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I laugh in the face of your weak Texas Tech '03 submission.
Try Texas Tech ’02, a game in which, after watching Eli play like shit and the Rebs unexpectedly lose to Tech and their shitty, shitty fans…..those of us Rebels present found ourselves sitting in the middle of west fucking Texas in a shithole town, 16 hours away from Oxford, sunburned with a late-afternoon hangover. To add insult to injury, I managed to get pulled over and issued a nearly $200 speeding ticket on the way home the next morning (for going 80 in a 70 on the interstate).
The "historic" 2007 season
nuff said
I'm new to this, and by this I mean..........
imma jest leave this rite here
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CSS replayed that game last week.
Speaking of mashochism, I forced myself to watch all the way through that final drive. The only enjoyment I felt came from the hailstorm of cups, flasks, empty whiskey bottles, and stilettos that came down from the stands after that call got overturned.
That was a called play, and I called it Brotha!!! HYYAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
by Catfish Powe-boy on Aug 16, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The red stilettos
should be in the OM Hall of Fame.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Aug 16, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I nominate 3
2010 – Ole Miss vs. Jacksonville State
2007 – Ole Miss vs. Alabama and Doyle Jackson
2003 – Ole Miss vs. LSU when Eli fell. My friends and I had planned a long celebration for when we won the West, and instead walked silently back to Brown Hall, packed and drove back to the far side of Nashville at about midnight.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
I brought half my LSU family to that game because I wanted the opportunity to pop champagne corks in thier face after
the game.
Needless to say, I slowly walked back to the tent alone, saw that two bottles of the 6 I had purchased had been opened and were being consumed by m purple and gold clad fuckface family members. I walked up to the table silently, my family fell silent when they saw me notice the champagne on the table. I took both open bottles and poured them out on the adjacent tree. Retrieved the 4 unopened bottles from the cooler, sat down in my chair, opened each one in turn and hocked a fat ass lugie in each one and quietly set them back on the table.
I can't think of a more appropriate response.
We do Thanksgiving in Baton Rouge, that’s where mom’s side of the family lives. The look on my face when they brought up the game that year was enough to keep them from bringing it up again for the duration of the trip.
Also, it’s things like this (and the triple “fuck yourself”) that make you my favorite poster on Red Cup and Nafoom. Kudos.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
2006 Georgia
This was the one where we were called for a hold on a successful blocked punt…on the gunner.
#WAOM
Let me rephrase that.
We had GA backed up within their own 10-15 yd line (I was blitzed that game and the details are a little fuzzy). Hurricane Orgeron called for a block punt formation. We successfully block the punt, pick it up, and run into the end zone for a touchdo…wait. What?
Our gunner (totally away from the play) was called for defensive holding. I came unglued.
We lost 14-9.
A lot is said about how the refs treat Ole Miss when they play Bama, and with good reason.
But that was the game that made me truly start to wonder if SEC referees wouldn’t let Ole Miss beat a good SEC team if they could help it.
Ole Miss: #1 in partying, mediocre in athletics and academics since 1848.
That game convinced me the SEC has (at least some) dirty refs.
While we do have a history of being on the losing end of questionable calls against Bama….none could ever matched what happened to us against UGA that night.
That was the second Ole Miss game I attended my freshman year
I don’t even remember it.
Ambitious, but rubbish.
Jacksonville State
All but one of my friends had gone back to the grove by halftime. The two of us decided to stay and check out Masoli a little more. Needless to say, we were in full meltdown mode going into the overtime. When J-Ville scored their touchdown to pull within one, I knew it was over. You could see the 2-point conversion coming a mile away. There is no excuse to lose to a D-II school. I literally almost threw up because it made me so sick.
by ''POWE''n Noobs on Aug 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
i'm just gonna go with..
2010 as a whole. Everything. Even Mississippi State’s beauty queen won Miss Mississippi.
I still giggle a bit when I say Nutt
by Sideline Snead on Aug 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Might as well throw in
2005: Texas
2006: Miami
2007: Arizona State
2008: Mizzou??
2009: Virginia
2010: Virginia
Something like that…the repression is pretty deep.
by WrigleyvilleReb on Aug 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions
Considering our biggest "victory" in 2010 was almost beating LSU....
I’m gonna throw in with Sideline Snead and say the year 2010 can just go to hell…. Speaking of the kitty cats and shitty moments in Ole Miss history, I thought of October 31, 1959. Sure, we ended up beating LSU in the bowl game and won the national championship, but now I have to see Billy Cannon’s white, scrawny ass run a punt back fifty times on ESPN at the end of every October. Even though we fielded one of the best football teams of all time and only gave up 21 points the entire season, you can’t fucking mention it or hear about it without somebody bringing up Billy Cannon.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Aug 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Wake Forest 2006
Not only did we have a rain delay, got drenched(I was helping organize that stupid-ass Freshman run thing and was stuck standing on the field during the downpour), went changed clothes, came back out to watch the team and had to watch Wake Forest run the ball EVERY SINGLE SNAP right down our throats. We couldn’t stop them under any circumstance and we knew exactly what was coming. Miserable miserable miserable.
I think in general,
one has to be a masochist to be a devoted Ole Miss fan. Any Forest County native can go to Southern Miss but call themselves an LSU fan. Any tree-poisoning hillbilly can claim Alabama as their school. But for the devoted Ole Miss fan, we have no one but ourselves. Certainly, there are some non-contributing zeros who show up during a good year, but they disappear rather quickly as well. But for those who are here year-in and year-out, knowing what the season will hold, well that’s just some goddamn courage right there.
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
by Mexter Dccluster on Aug 15, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Very well said...
this has been my mantra since the 1970’s (with a few glorious exceptions), you have to be one dedicated son of a bitch to be an Ole Miss fan. It takes no effort to ride the BAMA bandwagon or yell War Eagle when one has a little buzz on, it takes nothing but base animal instinct to be an LSU supporter. USM and MSU, geez, win all you want but in the end you still went to USM and MSU. It takes guts, balls, courage and effort to be an Ole Miss fan year in and year out. I say we all have drink!
by Loxley Rebel on Aug 15, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Give the man a rec
Considering changing my name to RebelBlackBearsConception
by ColRebsLastBreath on Aug 16, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
On another note.
I just received my Forward Together package in the mail. They want me to give an additional $1000/seat ($6,000) over the next 4 years in addition to the $3,000 per year I currently give.
PAY UP.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 15, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Check
goes in the mail in the moning.
by GeorgiaReb on Aug 15, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
There's a good Rebel
One that doesn’t give a damn about the hard times in the recent past and is willing to pay up so to avoid more in the future…even though they’ll probably still be more since WAOM
Been a Rebel fan for close to 60 years.
Nuff said.
Ah to have tasted
sweet success. You must have a heart of leather after dealing with the last three decades of madness.
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
by Mexter Dccluster on Aug 16, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that really what it takes to stay on the season ticket lists?
Ole Miss: #1 in partying, mediocre in athletics and academics since 1848.
Yep
I get to buy 6 tickets and get one parking pass for an annual contribution of $3000 plus the cost of the tickets and now an additional $6,000 over 4 years. I think I could pay an annual contribution of $2,500 but have inched it up over the years.
Looks like I won't be going to Ole Miss games in the next few years then.
Is $55 a game really not enough damn money?
Ole Miss: #1 in partying, mediocre in athletics and academics since 1848.
I didn't renew last year but it's like a minimum contribution of $25 or so
Per seat I think. If you want hifalutin’ seats then yeah you gotta pay more
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That's what it takes to build an arena and bowl in the NEZ.
If we’re ever going to establish more happy memories than the ones listed in this thread, we all have to “pay up” as Ghost put it.
I would say...
That meltdown against state in ’07 but that did get orgeron fired…probably the 2007 season as a whole
by Park Ranger Masoli on Aug 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I suppose Golston isn't on a return flight.
I am staying tuned for hilarity in Rebel sports.
Although the Grove has never been defeated, robbed by Doyle Jackson (that we know of), folded against State, spoken Cajun, or been signed away by the Boston Red Sox. So I’m hanging on for now.
The whole 2010-11 academic year.
Pretty much every Ole Miss sport sucked. Even the freaking tennis team couldn’t win the West. I think that pretty much says it all about that year.
If we’re talking individual moments only, I have to go with the JSU loss. I’d argue the Vandy loss a few weeks later was worse in a way because Ole Miss actually got outplayed in that game and didn’t just lose because they let up, but the fact was you could tell Ole Miss was losing that game 5 minutes in. The SC loss in ’09 was bad but you could see that one coming too, and the team was at least good for the year overall. I hated the ’03 LSU loss for ending the only serious run at greatness Ole Miss has had since the ’90 season but they did only lose 3 points to the eventual national champions. The JSU loss came out of nowhere and pretty much set the whole season off downhill.
Ole Miss: #1 in partying, mediocre in athletics and academics since 1848.
Rebel Basketball
I know we all remember going 13-0 in 2007 and then losing to Bruce Pearl and Company in a truly horrific Rebel fashion. It’s hard to pick a single basketball game, or year, since there were so many with AK, but that UT game really hurt.
by WrigleyvilleReb on Aug 15, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
This is one of my favorite pasttimes...
Pegues crooming us in 2007 after the failed fourth down conversion. Chris Smelly throwing for 300 yards in 2008. Bryan Brown giving up a 91 yard touchdown against Memphis in 03 AFTER pass interfering. Fond memories.
by DMagic on Aug 15, 2011 5:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A few games off the beaten path...
2000 Alabama – As an Ole Miss fan, I can attain a certain degree of enjoyment based solely on the failure of one of our more distinguished SEC cousins. For example, the 2000 Alabama team was ranked #3 in the preseason poll and finished the season 3-8 (unranked). However, it is impossible to enjoy Alabama’s failure when one of those three wins came against our beloved Rebels…by a score of 45 to 7.
2004 Arkansas – All I’m going to say about this game is Arkansas was up 28 to 3 at halftime and went on to win 35 to 3. Postgame, Chucky Mullins Award Winner Eric Oliver offered this memorable quote when responding to question about what went wrong: “I think we came out too crunk.” That basically sums it up for me.
by Bro. Mouzone on Aug 15, 2011 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think that the JSU
loss last year was the all time low for me. Although we’ve almost lost to some rank teams in decades past, the Jacksonville State game, especially while living in Alabama, was sheer torture.
JSU
I…. I.. Can’t describe the amount of self hatred and loathing that ran through me.. Why do I keep putting myself through this? I didn’t miss a game for the rest of the season.
"Go then, there are other worlds than these"-The Gunslinger
by ARebel21 on Aug 15, 2011 8:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Decade?
Shit. That day was a microcosm of all that has been wrong with our athletic department leadership for the past 30 or 40 years. That was a low point only bested by such events as the day Archie broke his arm, the day Peyton chose Tennessee and the day Buckles stepped on Eli’s foot on 4th down.
Ok, after reading through the comments, I'd like to amend the above post.
It was just another day in the life of an Ole Miss Rebel.
That day was a microcosm of all that has been wrong with our athletic department leadership for the past 30 or 40 years. That was a low point only bested by such events as the day Archie broke his arm, the day Peyton chose Tennessee and the day Buckles stepped on Eli’s foot on 4th down.
I hate to interrupt the masochism but..... HOLY SHIT!!!
Via the twitters… @Headtoheadradio says “Good source says Senquez Golson turns down Red Sox, headed back to Ole Miss. Deadline for decision is 11 PM CST tonight.” Pull out your red and blue goggles. Looks like it’s back to the optimism.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Aug 15, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
But......
Other sources are saying negotiations are still ongoing…. Nothing is signed yet but nothing is over. I guess we’ll find out for sure soon enough.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Aug 15, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a crazy situation.
I don’t think I’ve ever been, nor will I ever be again, so emotionally invested in a footballers decision after national signing day. I’m just ready for this decision, and I hope it’s good for the Rebs.
by p-willie'snewtubes on Aug 15, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
There’s no fucking way I’m going to sleep tonight before I know the results of this.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Aug 15, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a fan of the twitters, personally
But I searched twitternation for Senquez Golson and I’m just watching these roll in. Please, Sports Gods.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
by bowtierebel on Aug 15, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why I said "Please"
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
by bowtierebel on Aug 15, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
@chaseparham
“Senquez Golson has turned down the Boston Red Sox and will remain an Ole Miss Rebel”…. For realz this time?
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Aug 16, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Senquez remains Rebel!
I can’t believe it… He will be a legend in OM history after turning down the Sox…
by p-willie'snewtubes on Aug 16, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just saw a tweet that said
“Cam Newton wouldn’t live in Starkville for $180,000. Senquez Golson turned down $1.4 million to live in Oxford.” Hotty Toddy!!!!!
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Aug 16, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
That's gold Jerry. Gold.
Considering changing my name to RebelBlackBearsConception
by ColRebsLastBreath on Aug 16, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly can't believe it
I think it’s fair to say that everyone has a new favorite Rebel.
4th and 15. 2nd Overtime. Jacksonville State Ball.
The Rebel Chopper
those were dark days…and to think I had almost supressed that memory…
by deltarebel on Aug 16, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
VROOM VROOM MOTHERFUCKERS! WE'RE GONNA KICK YOUR ASS NOW!
That’s the message I imagine Corch O was trying to convey with that idea.
Whatever happened to that motorcycle, anyway?
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 16, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I polished off the bottle...
when I heard Boone was going to lead the team on the field riding on it. After getting beat by Wyoming, I can only hope that someone drove it off a cliff. But to answer your question, I don’t know.
Jacksonville State
Watching FCS players jumping around celebrating a win on the hallowed ground of VHS. It was at that moment I fully accepted that we were cursed.
by YousaytomatoIsayvodka on Aug 16, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
On a lighter note:
(and not to get off-topic, but we need a little comedic relief after reliving so many memories).
This was quoted in a CL article about Dan Mullen being aggravated by something:
“MSU players enjoyed a steak dinner with the MSU Animal and Dairy Sciences department Monday night. The event, “Beefing up the Bulldogs,” included a milk-off and hay bale toss."
How would you like to be a freshman who gets to participate in his first “milk-off?”
Sounds like a great recruiting tool to me
“Sure, you could go to the square and chase women. But will you get the opportunity to MILK COWS!?”
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
by Mexter Dccluster on Aug 16, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Is THAT what a milk off is?
I thought it was something much grosser.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 16, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Cows, cocks,
they’re both farm animals.
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
by Mexter Dccluster on Aug 16, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Never a dull moment...
in Mississippi’s College Town.
Nobody wins in a dairy challenge.
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by bowtierebel on Aug 16, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
HAVE FUN WITH YOUR LITERARY FESTIVALS,
WE’RE JUST GON’ BE OVER HERE THROWIN’ HAY AND MILKIN’ CATTLE, LOOOOOOOSERS!!!11
/collegetown’d
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 17, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The first thing that came to my mind:
“It’s so damn hot….. Milk was a bad choice”- Ron Burgundy
I'm new to this, and by this I mean..........
by ThatsWhatISay on Aug 17, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
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