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Rebel Roundup - July 21, 2011 - Where We Unapologetically Reply to Godfrey's Hate Mail

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Steven Godfrey follows up on last week's bombshell of a column which humorously and haughtily derailed any argument possible for Starkville, MS as being "Mississippi's College Town." This week, he looks at the backlash of that column and concludes that we college football fans are crazy. Of course, one didn't need Gofrey's column to know that, but he makes a compelling case using some pretty poignant, powerful evidence in the form of an email from an infuriated Grinder - one of dozens, I'm sure - which invaded the confines of his Gmail box this past week.

Click the jump to read the email (with Godfrey's censorship) as well as my annotation:

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… Why don’t you live in Coxford if it’s so great ... I know ... cause you suck as a writer and can’t get a real job! I’ll tell you what — the next time that State (The people’s university) attracts national attention because ... the president of Fed Ex’s son kills a cop, a drunk frat boy falls out of a tree and kills himself, a bunch of drunk frat boys die in a fire, a foot-ball player is thrown out of one school then becomes your starting QB ... and ain’t worth a (expletive), OR the next time the KKK comes to our campus to march (it’s the (expletive as an adjec-tive) 21 century and you dumb (exple-tive, plural) have the KKK marching on your campus???) OR if any of our esteemed alumni gets caught bribing federal judges ... I will see you eat that paper in the Junction. But until then ... eat (poop) you piece of (poop) (homosexual)!

—Hobie Mark Hobart, Avon, Miss., submitted via Facebook

Mr. Hobart, or "Hobie", makes a multi-pronged argument which absolutely slays Godfrey with its fluidity and wit. ("Coxford"? Brilliant!) I don't know how any of us could ever recover.

It's easy to see why Godfrey chose this out of the multitudes of "fan" mail he received last week, in that it's low-hanging fruit. It's horribly written, disgusting, dripping with insensitivity and prejudice, and so unfathomably mean-spirited that one cannot help but wonder if it's satire.

For starters, there's the whole HA U SUK AND AIN'T GOT NO JOB joke, which, regardless of Godfrey's employment - I'm certain he earns keep somehow - is bland and juvenile.

Then there's the Ku Klux Klan reference, an argument whose entire ineffectiveness the utilizers of such have yet to grasp. Let me explain this slowly, Hobie, the Ku Klux Klan, and all of their grouchy, cowardly redneckery came to Oxford to protest against Ole Miss. That does not make Ole Miss a bedfellow of the Klan. By your logic, I could conclude that Barack Obama is a batshit crazy, überprotestant homophobe because I have seen Fred Phelps and company, with their "God Hates America" signs and all, protesting in front of the White House. (I know this explanation, as simple as it may sound to me, could perhaps be like Newton lecturing a fucking goldfish, but it was worth a shot.)

But then, Mr. Hobart, you cross the line in a big, big way, and I just cannot grasp why or how any person would say some of the things you did.

What I cannot fathom, as a human being, as how you attempt to use horrible tragedy - despite missing some facts here and there (the "president of Fed Ex's son" didn't kill anybody) - to somehow bemoan Ole Miss and Oxford, as if we Rebel partisans are somehow implicit or responsible for said tragedies. I really want to be civil and reasonable here, but fuck that. I've learned over the years that you can't reason with someone so moronic and spiteful.

So answer me this, Hobie: what type of low-life, vindictive, sniveling little shitstain of a human being makes mention of an entirely accidental conflagration, one which consumed an on-campus structure and took the lives of several innocent young men, as some sort of indictment against the victims? The answer is, of course, the same callous simpleton who does the same for the death of an officer of the law in the line of duty who fell victim to a now imprisoned drunk driver, and for the accidental death of a young man who died while, of all things, climbing a tree in his fraternity's backyard.

How. Dare. You.

How dare you take random, unpredictable tragedies which caused mothers to grieve for their children and so passingly make mention of them to retaliate against a largely satirical column which (accurately) said that Starkville ain't as cool as you think it is? How can you at all be proud of yourself for that?

Dickie Scuggs? Fine, we're all felonious bribers. Jeremiah Masoli? Sure, we'll take any old mercenary we can get to do our bidding. "Piece of shit faggots"? (I'm assuming that these were the actual words used in the message which Godfrey's censored into  "poop" and "homosexual" for the Oxford Town column) Whatever, call us shit, that's what rivalries are for - I do find it funny that a guy who wants to label Ole Miss as a bastion of bigotry opted to call Godfrey a "fag", as if the use of such language isn't at all the mark of a bigot.

But don't you dare so carelessly speak of the heartwrenching incidents which have gripped the Ole Miss community over the past several years. You sir, Hobie (do you really go around introducing yourself to people as "Hobie?") have taken the rivalry too fucking far. Take a step back, take a deep breath, reevaluate your priorities, and

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Granted, I'm a girl but....

is it really necessary to “write” your name in the snow with your own urine? I mean, given enough training my super smart golden could do that. At least she would have the grace to not post it on FB.

by factord_agin on Jul 21, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

WOW. Just...damn.

What a fucking asshole. And who willingly goes by the name “Hobie?” Wasn’t he the kid on “Baywatch” that got hooked on meth and steroids?

Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Jul 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I was about to post his facebook link as well,

make note that in his photos that he has a maroon fur coat he wears to the junction, his favorite TV shows include NCIS and Monk, and his favorite movies include Porkies.

Any grown man who writes the nonsensical shit he does and also still loves Porky’s should take a long, hard look in the mirror at what inadequacies they’re addressing when they have to lob the brilliant ad hominems that he does.

Anyone who gets so infuriated by Godfrey’s soul-crushingly eloquent column that they must revert to insulting the deceased needs to reevaluate why they are so furious and what the fuck is wrong in their lives that they have to go after tragic accidents which could not have been averted.

AND FOR FUCK’S SAKE! WHAT KIND OF SELF-RESPECTING MALE MISSISSIPPIAN LIKES “THE MAN FROM SNOWY RIVER I & II”?

by Mexter Dccluster on Jul 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

THIS JUST IN:

WW is up and running with the Twitters after getting the internet at SEC Media Days to finally cooperate. He’ll keep you updated throughout the day and then recap it later tonight.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jul 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

To my knowledge

Cannon Smith has yet to kill anyone. Wonder if I should send this to him and see what he thinks. Sure he won’t appreciate it.

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by hottytoddy07 on Jul 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well his daddy sure as HELL won't.

Libel suit? Or would it be slander? Though Godfrey didn’t actually have to print the letter, so Hobie could argue that…damn it, you lawyas should know! Football blogs full of lawyers and law students and no one has an answer?

Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Jul 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

written defamation=libel

and there is no requirement that it be printed in a newspaper or available for mass consumption. Just putting something in a letter and sending it out is considered “publishing” in the legal context.

of course, there is still the requirements of damages and the like.

Just another "good for nothing law school grad".

by RebelBarrister on Jul 21, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm no expert, but wouldn't one then have to prove

that the libel was intentional? Getting your facts screwed up =/= libel or slander. Deliberately saying false things about someone with the intent of defaming their character and causing damages is. Juco, Ivory, ColReb’sLastBreath? Any of you lawyas on this one?

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jul 21, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

With public figures, there is a requirment for Intent; with ordinary citizens, no.

Obviously an argument can be made that this is a public figure(popular athlete, talks about father who IS public figure). I think a court would be hard pressed to let this case go through unless there was more to it.

by EtOHReb on Jul 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is fairly accurate

Public figure standard is a sliding scale of sorts, depending on the level of celebrity and the level that the statement was published. Intended audience and audience reached is also a factor. Since this guy only emailed Godfrey, he didn’t exactly publish it. Godfrey did. Probably a snowball chance in hell that this case would be legit.

Considering changing my name to RebelBlackBearsConception

by ColRebsLastBreath on Jul 21, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm a lawya, hence the name; my scant explanation not good enough?

I kid, I kid!

In reality, there is nothing there; the guy, as you said, got his facts mixed up and definitely did not intend to libel Cannon Smith. And again, even if something was there, Cannon would have to show how this damaged his reputation; as everyone knows he wasn’t the kid who killed the officer, there really is no damage.

Quick update on Smith, btw: seems he has been moved to Safety by the Memphis staff despite being the leading returning passer on the Memphis roster.

Just another "good for nothing law school grad".

by RebelBarrister on Jul 21, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Went to hs with Cannon.

Dude had an arm, hence the nickname. He’s my height though and way too short to be an effective D-1 qb although he was one hell of a hs qb while he was at CBHS. He can lay a hit though and has decent speed so the move to safety is fitting IMO.

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by hottytoddy07 on Jul 21, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww shucks.

I have one mutual friend with that douchebag.

by 7thYearJunior on Jul 21, 2011 12:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Unrelated:

check out Kentrell Lockett’s twitter coming from SEC day. In reference to Chizik:

“This dudes speech is like a lullaby”.

Concerning a protrusion on Barry Brunetti’s face:

“I gave that bump on Barry face a name…. say hello to RICHARD…..”

http://twitter.com/#!/CLARK_KENTrell

Brilliance.

by Mexter Dccluster on Jul 21, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

This guy

Is an absolute idiot. It’s a very Alabama/Auburn lunatic fringe type response to one another. It’s permissible to love your school and hate your rivals, but commenting on someones deceased child or throwing homosexual slurs or “poop” jokes to try to get your “point” across is complete dumdassery. He had to know that his comments could’ve been written about or posted in a followup story, right?

by p-willie'snewtubes on Jul 21, 2011 1:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Exactly.

Hate on our football program. Hate on Oxford, even, if it’s not your cup of tea. Hate on Ole Miss as an institution that doesn’t teach people about chicken jizz in lieu of things like “literature,” because that’s all fine by me.

When you start hating on the tragic deaths of innocent people… well that’s just inhuman.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jul 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I looked him up out of curiosity on Facebook, and, if I’m not mistaken, he coached football at a team my high school played a couple years. If it’s the same guy who did coach, I’m glad we absolutely demolished them now. Sorry if anyone played for him.

by p-willie'snewtubes on Jul 21, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Aww

He made his facebook all private since we started. I can’t see anything now.

Considering changing my name to RebelBlackBearsConception

by ColRebsLastBreath on Jul 21, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

click on his profile pic and enjoy

if you don’t puke in your mouth while doing it.

by factord_agin on Jul 21, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He Only Made it Semi-Private

Like most of the morons I know who think they’re making their profile private, they hide the information on the front page but you can still look at all of their pictures and stuff. So even with it private you can still see his name written in piss in the snow – and pictures of his own children, who I’m sure he’d have no problem whatsoever with people from a rival school mocking should they die in a horrific fashion while in college.

I’d say that it’s taking a lot of restraint to keep from messaging the asshole but the truth of the matter is that the knowledge that I’m intellectually superior to him keeps me from doing it. Stirring up shit with morons only brings me down.

by Catfish Row on Jul 22, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Harassing him on facebook

Would probably just excite him that so many Rebel fans took offense to his comments. What would really get his attention that his comments were grossly inappropriate would be e-mail the owners of Bulldog Deli and complain about his comments. However, being that the owners of University Management(the majority owners of The Grill, Harvey’s, Bulldog Deli) are huge MSU alumni/boosters, nothing would come from it but a stern talkin’ to.

by p-willie'snewtubes on Jul 21, 2011 4:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

HEY

This is different because uh… um.. we’re Ole Miss fans and Arkansas fans are a Buncha delusional crazy nutt jobs!!!!!!!!!!!

by MattSaracen on Jul 21, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where can we get some affordable banner planes?

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by hottytoddy07 on Jul 21, 2011 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Affordable?

Go big, or go home, son.

A FOI request doesn’t cost a penny, though.

by dxf04 on Jul 22, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

This,
what in the hell else can we do with him? He’s a grown-ass man who makes sandwiches for a living and walks around introducing himself to people as "Hobie." It’s not as if life’s doing this guy any favors.

Well that’s as elegant of a soul-crushing as I’ve seen.

by Mexter Dccluster on Jul 22, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well said.

Prepare to experience Sexual Magic.

by ElectricDreamMachine on Jul 22, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed completely.

We belittle ourselves when we engage in facebook stalking.

And seriously, if you want to find an offensive, simple-minded bookfarmer to argue with, why not just go down to Wal-Mart and do it in person?

by RightRev on Jul 22, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

But...but...

Dammit, ever since McAlister’s went corporate and changed the recipe for the old “Delta Delight,” I have to go to Bulldog/Sweet Peppers Deli to get my fix. Sorry but ham and pickled jalapenos is NOT the same thing as smoked sausage and pepperjack cheese. It’s just NOT.*

*Btw, this is what makes Starkville people (and probably Hobie) claim that McAlister’s was a ripoff of Bulldog Deli. I’d really like to see the old menu, pre-1980something. Actually, this makes the FOIA sound like a good idea. Let’s settle this once and for all.

**Sorry…I’m really hungry.

Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Jul 22, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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