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Ole Miss Rebels 72, Penn State Nittany Lions 70

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Ole Miss (7-1, #11 RPI) defeated Penn State (6-3, #78 RPI) last night in a thrilling game. I couldn't watch it, but I listened to the game, which stayed close the whole time, and came away with some points of interest. As always, those follow after the jump.

The team itself reverted to taking a lot of three pointers, but they luckily fell for the first time all season. The Rebs were 11-24 from three point range with several good stat lines. We didn't get to the line as much as we have been lately, but we made our trips count, going 7-10 at the charity stripe. Nothing much changed in the rotation, though Jarvis Summers' 36 minutes dwarfed Dundrecous Nelson's 22. We're beginning to see how that will shake out this year.

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Speaking of Jarvis, he had an alright game, scoring 27 points on 10-16 shooting and 3-4 at the line. Summers turned the ball over just twice and (according to people who get the Big Ten Network) didn't look panicked. He did register four personal fouls, but there's no use picking nits here. Jarvis Summers was a phenom last night and left our fans asking "Ky who?"

Ho hum. Murphy Holloway got a double-double. 2-3 from the line with five steals and only two fouls, Murphy continues to show out and thrill the fan base. I know I say this all the time, but..... he just works so hard. Murphy is probably 6'5 1/2" but somehow he comes down with tons of rebounds and goes after the ball non-stop.

After a dominant performance against DePaul, Reggie Buckner absolutely disappeared last night. With two points, two rebounds, two blocks, two turnovers, and four fouls in 28 minutes of play, Buckner was quiet all night. It's so frustrating to see him swing back and forth so violently.

Terrance Henry had a decent performance, scoring nine points including two threes, but like Buckner, he's got to get more active on the boards. He only had two rebounds last night, and that's just not enough.

Nick Williams was the other starter and produced the way everyone expects Nick to produce. Ten points, two rebounds, five assists, and three steals. Williams has been a steadying force so far this year, and that's needed in such a young backcourt. If he can keep this up, I'll forgive him for last year.

Nelson was 3-10 from three in 22 minutes. Yeah. he attempted ten threes in 22 minutes. Either Kennedy changed strategies, or Nelson missed the memo.

Demarco Cox, Aaron Jones, and Maurice Aniefiok played as well, but they didn't do much in limited action. Aniefiok just doesn't seem ready to contribute this year, and his minutes are going to decrease even more when Jelan Kendrick and Snoop White are eligibile.

Lastly, Murphy Holloway tweeted that when the Rebels got back to Oxford last night Jelan Kendrick was in the BPF practicing. I think he's ready to play. I'm excited.

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wondering how...

kendrick and snoop? are going to fit in…whose minutes will they take?

by rbt21 on Dec 5, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

I have been thinking about this as well

I am sure Kendrick won’t start his first game back. I imagine by the time we hit SEC play we’ll see a starting lineup that looks something like this:

Summers- PG
Kendrick- SG
Henry- SF
Holloway- PF
Buckner- C

That means Williams and Nelson would come off the bench along with Cox and Snoop White. That’s a pretty solid top 9.

by bball1984 on Dec 5, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams has been most improved player in my opinion…hope we move him to 3 and let henry come off the bench

by rbt21 on Dec 5, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree

But would be shocked if it happens. Henry is a complete enigma to me. Once every five games or so he’ll throw out a 20-10-8 game that makes you go “oh yeah, that’s why we give him so many minutes.” Then he disappers for the next five games. Also, Henry is getting potential interest from the Draft at this point. I saw a draft website that had him as a mid-second round pick last week (based on the all-important attribute of “potential”). This probably wouldn’t sway you or I’s opinion, but for a player’s coach like AK I bet he keeps on starting him. I don’t see anything wrong with that unless Henry continues to be a ghost most nights. AK is also into the whole “matchup nightmare” thing, and having Henry at the SF position means he’d have a lineup of Summers (6-3), Kendrick (6-6), Henry (6-9), Holloway (6-7 according to media guide), and Buck (6-9). That’s a lot of size to have to match-up with.

by bball1984 on Dec 5, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Did I read that right?

Ole Miss has an RPI ranking of 11?

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by Wild Rebel on Dec 5, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

SHHHHH, don't say it out loud...the fates will hear you and take it away!

Oh, and actually, it’s 10:

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

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by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Dec 5, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

RPI doesn't mean a whole lot

this early in the season. For reference, Denver is #11 and USM is currently #8 or 9. Things tend to level out as the season progresses.

Honestly, I think AK’s best attribute/skill as a head coach has been his ability to manipulate the schedule so that he ends up with a strong RPI each year. I have a hard time understanding why more schools and athletic departments don’t take advantage of this. If you do like we do and play several lower-tier Big East, ACC, Big 10 type schools each season (and play a few of them on the road or at neutral facilities), all you have to do is go about 11-3 in the nonconference and you have a top 30 RPI heading into conference. Unfortunately, AK has had trouble getting 9 conference wins most seasons, which is usually what it takes to make it to the tournament.

by bball1984 on Dec 5, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I looked it up and after reading this too, I'm inclined to agree based on where some teams are ranked.

I’ve never actually been a big fan of the RPI ranking anyway but I know a lot of people live and die by it so it got my attention.

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by Wild Rebel on Dec 5, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's useful...

but only after teams are about halfway through conference play.

by bball1984 on Dec 5, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I’m more including it just because I’m going to try to do that all season in recaps and previews.

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by Juco All-American on Dec 5, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

We weren’t trying to reprimand you for including it or anything- I think that’s a good idea. I was just trying to give my opinion to his question about how useful it is at this point in the season. Keep putting it in there- it’ll be nice to see where we stand as the season progresses.

by bball1984 on Dec 5, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I was able to watch the game on the B1G Network

I’ll try to add in some thoughts on what I saw on TV. I think your summaries of each player’s performance were very accurate. Summers has turned out to be a steal for AK and the coaching staff. He’ll be our PG for the foreseeable future. He is calm and collected throughout the game and does a great job of dictating tempo and getting the team into offensive sets (ha, offensive sets under AK. There’s a joke there somewhere but I just can’t put my finger on it….). Having him run the point is a big improvement over having Nelson trying to run the point. Having said that, Nelson will have to play minutes this season. He’s too much of a natural scorer (something we lack right now) to just sit the majority of the game. I think the role he currently plays coming off the bench and giving us “instant offense” fits him perfectly. If we could just improve his shot selection he’d be excellent. Finally, I thought they way we attacked the zone was a lot better last night. Still need lots of improvement, but we actually showed a little patience and moved the ball around the perimeter well. We drove and kicked out for lots of open threes and even threw the ball into the post a good bit. Almost every three we hit was on a drive-and-kick or a kick-out to the perimeter from a post player. Much better than seeing us dribble the ball thirty feet from the basket and then take a contested three. Buckner did a good job of finding shooters when he got the ball in the post. Unfortunately, he also did a good job of forcing up a lot of dumb shots off bad post moves. Henry and Buckner are what they are at this point- great athletes who excel in transition play and defense but lack the necessary skill set to really be great in the halfcourt game most nights. I’ll leave it up to everyone to decide if that is a player issue or coaching issue. I honestly don’t know the answer….

That was a nice win for us. It probably won’t be a quality win by RPI standards at the end of the year, but it won’t hurt us either and road wins are always good pickups for improving RPI.

by bball1984 on Dec 5, 2011 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

I live north of Kentucky, so I get BTN.

I too was thoroughly impressed with Summers. He’s the polar opposite of Couscous. He’s very, very deliberate with the basketball and rarely shoots at his first look. He has a nice stroke and really played in a way that Penn State simply couldn’t answer to.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure I'll jinx it by saying this...

but he’s the pure PG we’ve been lacking over the past 4-5 seasons. He’s not perfect by any means, but he plays like you would want your PG to play against tough competition.

by bball1984 on Dec 5, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

TODD ABERNATHY

that’s all

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by charlym on Dec 5, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Summers "alright"?

His 27 points was ten more than anybody else in the gym. His last three were the winners: a polynice-esque drive down the lane for a layup +1 with 34 seconds left. Sure he could have made the first of a one and one during the next possession, but Nelson could have shot less than 24 times (at 33%) and passed to Summers more. Oh well.

The whole picture is better than alright imo: 27p, 4r, 3a (2to), 1s, in 36m. His 4 boards made him second on the team for the night. What the stats can’t show you are his successful passes into the post. He fed Buckner and Holloway low at several points where they did not convert.

He’s got a good shot, but his decision making with the ball will make him a big plus this season. He’s raw defensively, but he’s careful with the ball. Therefore he should start over Nelson.

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by Old HWY 6 on Dec 5, 2011 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

"alright"?

that was just snark, landshark. Summers was obviously more than “alright”..

This game in particular excites me about the future of the bball program with Summers running the point.

by JohnnyRebellion on Dec 6, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

If only RCR had the sarc mark.

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by Juco All-American on Dec 6, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Duh

may bad

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by Old HWY 6 on Dec 6, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The zone

PSU didn’t play zone as much as I thought they would, but the team played pretty well against it. Williams and Summers both did well to take mid-range jumpers from inside the arc after working the ball around. The guards and holloway were able to penetrate off the dribble, which suggests PSU was a little slow overall. I was happy to recognize plays for Buckner on the post. While PSU’s center defended well, and Buck wasn’t very fluent with his back to the board, the effort to test the zone in multiple ways was there.

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by Old HWY 6 on Dec 5, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

What's interesting is that despite somewhat paltry lines by Buckner and Nelson

Buck was +8 last night and Nelson was +7 to top the team. Granted +/- is far from a perfect stat, particularly in a game sample size, but I did find it interesting.

Being 4-0 in games decided by 5 points or less is great for this team considering a true freshman is our primary ball handler. We went 3-3 in games decided in OT or by 5 poitns or less last year.

I’ve got YTD +/- stats if there’s any interest in them on here. One player is 12 points better than anyone else and it’s probably not who you think it is. You take out the Marquette game (and wouldn’t we all like to do that) and his lead gets even bigger.

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by buster_bluth on Dec 5, 2011 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

More stats please

And wasn’t someone talking about a stats app during the DePaul thread? What was that?

Is it Cous Couse? Gotta be Cous.

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by Old HWY 6 on Dec 5, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't be an issue

I’ll throw something together at lunch

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by buster_bluth on Dec 6, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

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