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I was reading some of that Forward Rebels crap on their Facebook page and I still can't understand why some people is so hung up on col reb and Dixie. I just don't get it people, why would anyone want a mascot that wasn't even thought of when Ole Miss was winning SEC championships. So some fans want a mascot that represents losing. Oh yes please sir may I have more? Then let's here it for the fight song Dixie, I think I just heard a southern redneck yell. So what about these recruits that come to a game and doesn't care for the song. So couldn't we have a fight song that draws their attention in a positive way? I also read these comments where some keep saying that Ole Miss has gotten rid of all their traditions. Ok rednecks, last I have seen and heard we still have the Grove, still chant Hotty Toddy, still say GO TO HELL LSU and above all we still call ourselves OLE MISS REBELS BY GOD!!! So for anyone who doesn't like what I just said you can kiss my big red and blue wearing ASS!!! By the way I hope Ole Miss hires Dana Holgersan. Because he looks like Beetlejuice and he would just scare the crap out of someone in a dark alley.

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Aren't we Ole Miss by damn?

by goulajamz on Dec 3, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

This was fucking painful to read.

I actually found myself cringing on several occasions. I miss reading old RedCup where posts were generally witty. Perhaps this is a microcosm of Ole Miss…. Popularity killing terdishunz n shit.

by somewhere_over_dwaynebowe on Dec 3, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Some people just never learn.

So where, might I ask, was there anything about “Ole Miss” on the new cups at football games this year. In my opinion, that will be next to go, and we will simply be known as UM, which is a crying shame. Where has the pride in our school gone in the recent past? I remember going to games growing up and it was such a nostalgic experience, so much pride in our team, our mascot, our band, and the production on the field. Granted we never really won that many games, but we were consistently bowling, which I will take over a 2-10 season in a heartbeat. It seems that as more things are taken away from the program, starting with the mascot, then Dixie, etc., we are becoming less and less of a proud program and more and more of a lackluster fanbase and team.

by Rebel'11 on Dec 3, 2011 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

oh man
It seems that as more things are taken away from the program, starting with the mascot, then Dixie, etc., we are becoming less and less of a proud program and more and more of a lackluster fanbase and team.

I for one am very proud of our school for eliminating those symbols. Mississippians as a whole are are already stereotyped as obese, shoeless, racist, back-water rednecks. The last thing we need is a bunch of frat boys yelling “the south will rise again” while a guy dressed as a slave-owner runs around on the field.

The people clinging to their “traditions” are the ones pulling the school down. If they would put half the effort into supporting the team that they do on Col Reb, then we might actually have a pretty unified fan base.

And, as to there being a causal link between eliminating Dixie and Col Reb and our recent on-field woes, you should run that theory by this guy…

Aren't we Ole Miss by damn?

by goulajamz on Dec 3, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Thumbs up.

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by sutpens100 on Dec 4, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

+1 times threeve-ty teen quadrillion.

by AR Rebel on Dec 4, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The athletes don't care about the mascot crap.

It has no impact on the field. None. I doubt anyone was coming to the games just to see Colonel Reb on the sideline.

The reason we are losing is the other teams are scoring more points than us.

"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt

by Crootin' on Dec 3, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And this is the reason our "national" coaching search gets limited so much.

If you were Charlie Strong or Kevin Sumlin, would you want to come coach for a fanbase full of Rebel’11 type fans? Yeah, me either.

by TwoYardsandaCloudofEnricky on Dec 3, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it’s not helping anything for this shit to be continually brought up and argued about.

An opinion is like a penis.
It’s fine if you have one.
It’s fine to be proud of it.
But please don’t whip it out and start waving it around.
And please don’t try and shove it down everybody’s throats.

I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.

by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Dec 3, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I can not take seriously....

dumb people. You sir, are dumb. How do I know this you ask? Well, it has nothing to do with your thoughts, you are entitled to those. I disagree with them, but that is not the reason. The reason is that it is obvious that you have never been to an Ole Miss football game. Or really care about Ole Miss football at all. I know this because the BAND. STILL. PLAYS. DIXIE. If you do not know the difference between “Dixie” and “From Dixie With Love”, I can not and will not take you serious. Now, in the words of some one famous and British…..Good day sir!

by astaylo1 on Dec 4, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the point

Is taken by readers of The Cup and used for their own factitious enjoyment. I am ashamed of this, I really am. I agree TSWRA and Col Reb were “symbols” of our racist past and they needed to go. However, changing the whole fucking song to leave out a bunch of drunk 20 year olds yelling some chant that means absolutely fucking nothing?! That’s bullshit. A simple minded fuck could point that action out as bullshit. This attacking each other over a few pointless issues that are brought up is, what I believe, makes us the laughing stock of the entire SEC. We cannibalize each other on this damn site like it’s our gotdamned duty.

Now, I understand that the individuals associated with this blog are of the utmost wit when it comes to being able to express their opinions thoroughly, but does that give you the right to attack a fellow Rebel for saying how they truly feel? I feel as if Rebel’11 is stating the truth.

As a current student I see this same shit every day. Our school pride isn’t there. It was when I came for ballgames when I was a kid, it was when I was in high school (don’t know how with coach O), but now it seems that the name “Ole Miss” even as an institution is a mockery. How can anyone take us seriously if we don’t take ourselves seriously? I understand I may be outspoken on this issue and I understand the University is aggressively trying to change its current ‘image,’ but I truly believe that Rebel’11 is right in the sense that we have fractured our fan base beyond the point of easy repair. Maybe it will come with wins, maybe it will come with Hugh Freeze (I heard he got hired tonight…), who the hell knows. All I know is I’m not going to attack another person on this blog, in the grove, the classroom, or anywhere imaginable as long as they give their heart and soul to the Red and Blue. Hotty Toddy y’all.

The last Rankin Rebel

by Reb on the Rez on Dec 4, 2011 2:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm too emotionally invested in this bullshit.

Let’s higher Freeze and be done with it. Maybe we won’t be incompetent as a bunch of Kindergartners at a Math Bowl. But we most likely will. Here’s to the future, may we always hate on those who hang onto lost causes.

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by Reb on the Rez on Dec 4, 2011 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

/rec'd
We cannibalize each other on this damn site like it’s our gotdamned duty.

Aren't we Ole Miss by damn?

by goulajamz on Dec 4, 2011 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I love those cups.

I kept one after the LSU game and took it home with me. I drink very, very tall bourbon drinks out of it now.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess you could say I'm a collector.

After all the games, I combed the stands picking up the ones that weren’t cracked, stomped, or just plain shattered. I could’ve gotten way more, but I’m currently sitting on about 20-25.

by Mackey, Nutt's Sackey on Dec 5, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

That in itself is an Ole Miss tradition.

Whether it be a bunk-ass fraternity bedroom or a high-end condo, every Oxonian domicile has a cabinet full of big plastic cups. Gameday + Newk’s + Oby’s = ALL THE PLASTIC CUPS

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand why you felt compelled to bring this up...

Nobody has been arguing about about “the loss of traditions” here for nearly 3 whole days. It doesn’t help quiet down the pro- Forward Rebels crowd at RCR to pick off their scabs as they’re just beginning to heal (again).

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by sutpens100 on Dec 4, 2011 12:54 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I Honestly Don't Care About Some Mascot

I really don’t. And it’s just some sorry excuse that everyone at Ole Miss leans on for mediocrity. It’s always been that way.

Frankly, I hope whoever they hire stands up to the mic on the first day and says “I don’t care if you like Col. Reb or the Black Bear. I don’t care if you went to private or public school. I don’t even care if you are white, black, Asian, Native American, Martian or some other unknown race or some blend thereof. If you want to get your shot to play in the SEC and win in the SEC, then you need to come here. And furthermore, I don’t care what Dandy Dozen, high school freakin’ list you were on, if you don’t come here prepared to work your butt off to make yourself, and your school proud, then you won’t be here long.”

That’s all I’m asking for. I don’t think that’s too much. And drop the mascot drama.

by muttinthehut on Dec 4, 2011 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

LOL at you Ole Miss haters.

Getting rid of the Colonel really helped us, didn’t it? All of those top tier recruits are just flowing in by the dozens now.

I love how you say we must surely be “rednecks” if we love the Ole Miss traditions that you worked so hard to trash. Have you read any of the reader posts from any articles that were NOT on this site? The black bear is a laughingstock, and so is Ole Miss for letting you politically correct rubes ruin our school.

Getting rid of the Colonel is going to win us some championships, eh? Well how about the last two record-setting years we just had?

Good work, assholes. If you hate Ole Miss so much, then why don’t you just go away? Go root for State and stop fucking up my school.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 4, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

Ole Miss is a "laughingstick" because the Colonel's been gone for 8 years and people won't let him go.

I’m not one of the people on here arguing for or against the Colonel. To me the argument is moot. He’s gone. It’s over. Let’s move on.

"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt

by Crootin' on Dec 4, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Some on the other side won't let it go either.

Look at the original post. The mods in this forum also tend to bring up the Colonel a lot, but then get upset when anyone posts anything in FAVOR of the real Ole Miss.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 4, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree the orginial FanPost brought up the topic on this site.

But I do not agree that the other side won’t let it go. The other side is reactionary. If the Col. Rebbers just let it go, there would be no reason to respond.

"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt

by Crootin' on Dec 4, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It seems to be a vicious cycle then.

If you hadn’t lobbied to fuck up my school, then I wouldn’t have to respond to your responses about your fucking up my school.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 4, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

If you hadn’t lobbied to fuck up my school, then I wouldn’t have to respond to your responses about your fucking up my school.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 4, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're missing my point.

Like it or not (and again I’m not expressing an opinion about Col. Reb), the Colonel Reb crowd lost. He is GONE. He has been gone for 8 years. He is not coming back. My point is let’s all, ant- and pro- Colonel, move on.

"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt

by Crootin' on Dec 4, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Then why fuss at me?

Why not the original poster?

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by BrandonBP on Dec 4, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

You say that you're not taking sides,

Yet you have taken a side.

This shmoe comes in and posts a topic about how he read about some people’s comments about the Colonel on ANOTHER site, so I respond to this post on this forum. Yet you take issue with the pro-Colonel post.

Nice try.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 4, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You posted your opinion about how we lost our traditions. I posted a response.

That’s all there is to it. I don’t care about the Colonel either way. I just want to move on.

"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt

by Crootin' on Dec 4, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

We all like the Col.

We just realize he’s gone.

The last Rankin Rebel

by Reb on the Rez on Dec 4, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right.

You have an Ole Miss blog, so it’s more your school than it ever will be mine. Just because I graduated and worked for the University doesn’t mean jackshit. Surely. If only I had my own Ole Miss blog and hated Colonel Reb, then I would fit in better with the true Ole Miss fans.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 6, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, look who doesn't get it!

I’m not trying to claim any more ownership over Ole Miss than anyone. You were the one claiming it to be YOUR school. Notice, I never said Ole Miss was “MY” school, did I?

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 6, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.

by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Dec 6, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

It's MY fucking school, too.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Dec 5, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, it is now.

Enjoy the generic university you lobbied to create.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 6, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Umadbro?

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 6, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

If communicating via meme is dating,

then this website is one big orgy.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 7, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never "lobbied" to change anything about Ole Miss...

except to have you blocked from this site…but, unfortunately, Ghost doesn’t listen to me. I’m sorry that the retirement of a cartoon mascot 8 years ago turned “your” university into a generic, sterile non-memory for you. Have you considered counseling?

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Dec 6, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for the Shelby Foote shout-out

I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.

by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Dec 7, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The Folk Nation uses the Star of David as their gang symbol.

Should the Jews abandon the Star of David because some assholes stole it?

Ok, let’s hear your weakass argument. Go…

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by BrandonBP on Dec 7, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

How about this...

This is an Ole Miss sports blog. I, for one, am not going to discuss on this page who uses the Star of David or why unless and until it becomes either an official or unofficial symbol of the university, which you have reminded all of us now belongs to the Cup.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Dec 7, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Which one doesn't fit?
Should the Jews abandon the Star of David because some assholes stole it?

Should Christians abandon the cross because the KKK uses it?

Should Muslims abandon the Crescent because some wackos use it?

Should a university abandon the symbol of a morally corrupt, semi-legitimate, 150 year old government that has been further perverted by the KKK?

"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt

by Crootin' on Dec 7, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No one (except you) is going to confuse...

…patriotic Israelis with the skinheads of your Folk Nation cult. On the other hand many people do confuse white Rebel flag-waving Mississippians who do not wear sheets with those who do wear sheets. While possibly unfair, such confusion is regrettably understandable given the history of Ole Miss, especially 1962.

What a dumbass redneck you are. With each post you reveal more about how little there really is to you. Your “depths” are shockingly shallow – and transparent.

I didn't come here to be nice.

by No Quarter on Dec 7, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Red and blue.

I didn't come here to be nice.

by No Quarter on Dec 9, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs


GIFSoup

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 4, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

After all this time, either you still don't get it

or you’re being an antagonistic asshole.

I can forgive the former.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Play it slow, then play it fast...just as long as you play it.

Flags and mascots have nothing to do with rednecks, racism, and politics…. and yet politicians (incl. college administration), closet racists, and redneck-decrying elitists insist on inserting themselves into the school-spirit discussion. Ole Miss has a rich and wonderful history in athletics, and there is nothing wrong with celebrating traditions…in fact, there is everthing right in supporting your school and its history. In the absence of success on the field in recent years, the school needs it traditions more than ever. When certain symbols or rites begin hindering recruitment, then the RELEVANT authorities—i.e. the coaches and players—will let it be known and the students can react accordingly.

by TheLitWit on Dec 5, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Actually, flags and mascots have a lot to do with those things.

The fact that these things generate this very discussion is prima facie evidence of such.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, WHO generated this discussion?

As a matter of fact, how many times have you come into, yes, YOUR site to gloat about the Black Bear just as this poster has done?

You and the other Rebel haters are antagonists. You incessantly complain about the Colonel, yet if anyone posts with an opinion contrary to your blackbear-loving diatribes, then you all jump onto the liberal appeasement bandwagon about we must be rednecks.

Gotta love the hypocrisy.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 6, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

A few points

A) Put the links in the text. That way we can click them.
2) Your link sends one to the depths of a thread with you antagonizing folks.
And D) The first mention of the Colonel, in any sort of argumentative sense, was actually from you.

It takes some serious cognitive dissonance for you to not realize that you are you’re own problem. Mad about the Colonel? Go to the website where people disagree with me. I don’t know, maybe you’re just an internet sadist, but you’ve got to let go of this madness.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 6, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? You're going to come in and make that claim,

because you know your little fanbase here will believe you instead of actually looking at the thread.

I didn’t say anything at all until way down that thread, well after Cutler and your Followers had trashed the Colonel and said, “Fuck tradition.”

You can make up things all you’d like. Enjoy your following here that hangs on your every majestic word.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 7, 2011 4:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I went back and read the thread. You're seeing something which isn't there.

The “fuck tradition” comment (HandsomeSam’s) was in response to someone saying that we should hire a coach who cares about the “tradition and culture” of Ole Miss. Sam’s argument was that such issues shouldn’t matter at all when hiring a football coach.

But you’re so right, this website’s entire purpose is to poopoo all over the Colonel and exalt the greatness of Rebel the Black Bear. It’s, like, the only thing we’ve ever done around here.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 7, 2011 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you miss your own comment near the top?

My point is, as I have stated repeatedly to no avail with this Rebel-hating crowd, you all continue to say to “let the issue die” yet you continually post on these boards about the matter before anyone has said anything about it.

You are so fixated on us “rednecks” loving our school that you can’t see reality and that perhaps you are the very ones perpetuating the argument.

Speaking of which, there’s not one iota that is redneck about me as you people claim. You think that calling us all rednecks and hillbillies just writes us all off as uneducated klansmen that have never set foot on the Ole Miss campus. I find that MANY graduates of Ole Miss are as disgusted with the situation as I, but I can only imagine they don’t post their opinions here, because they’re obviously going to be called names if they do so.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 7, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Did they teach you that in debate class?

Making up arguments to shove into your opponents’ mouths & then accusing them of insulting you? I’ve read this entire thread and the only person who’s called you a redneck or hillbilly (or even remotely suggested it) is YOU, dickbreath.

Let me remedy that: You are an ignorant, inbred, redneck, hillbilly, peckerwood moron.

I didn't come here to be nice.

by No Quarter on Dec 7, 2011 9:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously? Seriously?

You read this entire thread and no one called anyone a redneck? And then you have the nerve to say that I’M making things up? What a bunch of jerkwads. Jesus H. None of you has any credibility whatsoever. But I think we established that long ago.

“Then let’s here it for the fight song Dixie, I think I just heard a southern redneck yell.”

“Ok rednecks, last I have seen and heard we still have the Grove…”

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by BrandonBP on Dec 7, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only are you nuts, you can't read

or you deliberately misstate what people say in order to allow you to don the cloak of victimization. Here’s what I said, liar:

the only person who’s called you a redneck or hillbilly (or even remotely suggested it) is YOU

Here’s how your twisted brain regurgitated it:

You read this entire thread and no one called anyone a redneck?

I don’t think even a stupid fucking redneck troll like YOU can misinterpret this: Fuck off.

I didn't come here to be nice.

by No Quarter on Dec 7, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Surely you don't believe the things you say.

What makes you think we’re a “Rebel-hating crowd”?

To which comment of mine near the top are you referring? The one where I was replying to someone, or the other one where I was replying to someone? The only times I’ve mentioned any of the “traditions” you love to yell at us about have been in response to someone else.

And where are you getting this “redneck” and “hillbilly” shit? Seriously, I haven’t said that at all. I haven’t called you an “uneducated klansman” nor have I accused you of “never setting foot” anywhere.

If anybody’s making baseless claims about people, it’s you. You, again, put words in peoples mouths and then attack them for it. You really are very, very bad at this.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 7, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

“You really are very, very bad at this.”

Hey man, it’s your site. You and your plebes can make up whatever you’d like. Then after you do, you can all trash me for pointing out the fact that you’re all full of it.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't come here to be nice.

by No Quarter on Dec 7, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Interesting

How did I get dragged into this when I’ve made a point of calling out Ghost for dancing on the grave of Col. Reb or making fun of Col. Reb supporters, while not showing the idiocy of people who take the Bear just as seriously?

And, yes, when we’re choosing to hire a football coach to oversee a multi-million dollar program that plays in the highest level of college football, how much the guy loves tradition and heritage shouldn’t matter. Would you agree, BP?

by HandsomeSam on Dec 12, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Penis envy.

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by sutpens100 on Dec 7, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

No doubt BP has a tiny dick.

I didn't come here to be nice.

by No Quarter on Dec 7, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

As it happens, it was.

My parents outsourced the work during my gestation. Cheaper that way. The Chinese are an industrious people, and my dick was low in cost and high in quality. While I regret that dick-makers in Detroit or Cleveland were robbed of their chance to make it here in the USA, I understand the necessity of seeking out the lowest price.

by TwoYardsandaCloudofEnricky on Dec 9, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

A one-month-old open thread started by Juco regarding our head coach's firing

is your evidence that I use this site as a platform via which to “gloat” about the bear. That’s pretty telling.

As Mexter pointed out, the only reason any mascot discussion occurred in that thread is because you and other people started such a discussion.

Imagine if this were real life? Imagine you walked into a room in which a dozen people were having a light-hearted and generally friendly discussion about something sorta trivial and, before even introducing yourself, you opened up by loudly proclaiming your opinions on controversial topics and insulting anyone who didn’t agree with you. Then, when people returned the same hostilities (as people are apt to do), you audaciously accuse them of despotic intolerance and carry on an act which suggests that you’re some kind of a victim in all of this.

Doesn’t that sound ridiculous? Well, it’s exactly what you’ve done in, oh, a dozen threads now.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 7, 2011 6:13 AM EST up reply actions  

How is it that you can read the original post above,

then accuse ME of being an antagonist?

I’ll tell you why, because the original post espouses your own hatred for anything that doesn’t fit into your New Generation politically correct world. You agree with the filth spewed forth in the original post and you disagree with me. So, instead of admitted that the Anti-Ole Miss crowd around here has been loosely tossing around epithets every chance they get, you blame me for having the audacity to say anything contrary to “We all hate Ole Miss TURDISHUNS ’round huur.”

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by BrandonBP on Dec 7, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

To be honest, I only sorta skimmed the OP a few days ago.

So I re-skimmed it, just for you.

Okay, I may agree with the essence of the guy’s argument, but not the style or method of delivery. He doesn’t seem like a person I would carry on much of a conversation with were the two of us to meet in public.

There’s a difference though between the two of you, and it doesn’t have to do with the substance of your arguments. The difference between him and you is a) you’re very, very bitter about something and b) you just keep piling it on. You deride, insult, and misrepresent people and, when you’re called on it, you act like some kind of a victim.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 7, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

“You deride, insult, and misrepresent people…”

Hello, Kettle? This is the Pot. You’re black.

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by BrandonBP on Dec 7, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

/THAT'SRACIST.GIF'D

Did you expect anything else?

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 7, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"the filth spewed forth in the original post" ??

Exactly what “filth” was “spewed forth” in the original post? I re-read it, thinking I must have missed it. Nope. The only “filth” I could detect was a broader worldview than the one on which your narrow vision can focus. An opinion that differs from your own…Gasp!

I didn't come here to be nice.

by No Quarter on Dec 7, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Thanks for the link. I had missed the last half of that thread.

If I had read it a month ago I would have known already that you really are insane and not just play-acting. I

t does look like you have these episodes about once a month – do you have some recurring issue with your meds running out?

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Dec 7, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah the incessant stuff is a bit ridiculous as well.

The last time I started a Colonel Reb related thread was, oh, months ago. Literally every time I’ve engaged in a conversation about it since whenever that way, someone else has brought it up.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 6, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The Past.....isn't even past.

Trying to forcibly erase history through the criminalization of traditions and harmless symbols is far more destructive and violent than waving a flag, celebrating a caricature, or singling a song. The university leadership and PC reactionaries have imposed their celebration of victimization on an athletic program and school which once celebrated victory. William Faulkner may not have done so well in his Ole Miss English courses, but even he knew the importance of history, the past, and victory to a culture and a people.

by TheLitWit on Dec 5, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Criminilization?

Come on meow.

No one is forcibly erasing the history. The University leadership made the decision that as a public university in a diverse state, perhaps disassociating the school itself from those symbols would help provide an inclusive, welcoming atmosphere from those in our state who don’t see the aforementioned symbols as “harmless.”

I think the real issue is that a lot of people have other ideological issues tied the Colonel and whatnot. The whole victimization from the PC police mentality seems to dig some folks into their positions moreso than trying to listen to a perspective from someone who didn’t care for the recently created Confederate imagery (1972 and the Col, for instance).

Again, if you’re worried about tradition, feel free to go to Rowan Oak, the Confederate cemetery or just stare at the statues that are remembrances of Ole Miss’ “past.”

“but even he knew the importance of history, the past, and victory to a culture and a people.”

Naw dude.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 6, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

There is so much awfulness in your post, I cannot possibly fit it all in.

Forcibly erasing history is completely and totally impossible in this day and age. Suggesting that removing the flag, FDWL and Col Reb is even remotely similar is at best inaccurate and at worst, completely ignorant.

Criminalization of traditions? Seriously? Did UPD arrest someone for waiving a con fed flag on campus? Was the fellow wearing the CR costume arrested and charged with “traditionalization”? No one is criminalizing anything, podnuh.

Harmless symbols? Harmless to whom? You? Me? Sure. They are harmless to you and I, but are they harmless to others?

“The university leadership and PC reactionaries have imposed their celebration of victimization on an athletic program and school which once celebrated victory.” What. The. Hell. If you’re actually suggesting that we turn back the clock to the times when we ‘celebrated victory’ and do things just like we did back then, I am completely, jaw droppingly astonished at your suggestion.

If you’re suggesting that Faulkner would be pro CR if he were alive today, you are one helluva psychic. Can you ask my grandmother if she’d want me to have the collection of her blue plates, or if she’d prefer that my sister have them? Thanks. Also, no one is ignoring the importance of history, culture or winning. I still have my CR hats, figurines, posters, t-shirts, etc on the wall in my “Ole Miss” room. And they will remain until I pass away or give them to m progeny. I respect, honor and cherish the “past” in Ole Miss symbols. I also fully recognize, support and praise the Universities decision to move into the 21st century with regard to our public image and reputation across this country. Whether we like it or not, the rest of the country views a few of our symbols are objectionable and distasteful. We have two choices. Ignore them and revel in our history, southern pride and idolatry and effectively cut ourselves off from the rest of the world. Basically, tell those who dislike it to get out, and prevent those who dislike it from coming in. OR, we can be smart about our branding and marketing in order to make small, subtle changes in the images we portray in order to present a more pleasing and inclusive image to people who don’t know anything about us prior to seeing their first football game, Grove experience or OM video production. In short, be accommodating and welcoming to people from all over the country (and world, for that matter) instead of closed off and defensive.

You sir, are antagonistic, unyielding, uncompromising, unaccepting and generally displeasureable to anyone who doesn’t believe in the same things you believe. Hmmm… sound familiar?

by OxpatchReb on Dec 12, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Mr. Freeze becomes Head Coach

Now if our head coach is a villain out of “Batman,” why can’t we have a Star Wars figure for our mascot? Just asking.

by TheLitWit on Dec 5, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

The most important thing is our support of Ole Miss and her teams

No one really thinks the administration is going to pull a 180 and re-instate institutions it labored so long to abolish, but it is wrong-headed and small-hearted to attack other Rebel fans because they do or don’t wave a particular flag or yell a particular cheer as long as everyone is pulling for the Rebels. My work takes me throughout the South, and there is no widespread perception of Ole Miss as anybody’s laughing-stock. Generally speaking, they don’t regard us at all in football and to a degree, even basketball. Baseball and women’s basketball are about the only sports we’re recognized for at all. Quite a few fellow SEC school fans used to empathize with our plight fighting the PC administration and thought police, but that is old news now. Our goal needs to be winning again, and we’re only going to do that pulling together, and only then when anyone else even notice us.

by TheLitWit on Dec 5, 2011 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

Amen.

Just because something is PC, it does not mean that it’s not a change worth making.

I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.

by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Dec 5, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, I just hate that God damn bear

Why do we have to have a mascot anyway? And if there is some requirement that we have a mascot, do we have to have a stupid one? The most generic sports nickname available, tigers, bulldogs, and eagles were taken, so we are the bears. Great.

by SouthavenRebel on Dec 12, 2011 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Considering we could have ended up with this...


Or this…

We made out like a bandit. Remember, we are Ole Miss. This could have gone horribly, horribly… HORRIBLY wrong. Instead, we’re just a bit unoriginal. I will TAKE it.

by OxpatchReb on Dec 12, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Whole lot of truth in this post.

I’ll take a bear over Hotty Toddy, Rowdy Rebel, Rebel Bruiser, or any of those other inane ideas every day of the week.

by TwoYardsandaCloudofEnricky on Dec 12, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So we are settling?

I don’t like settling. The Cardinals had the rally squirrel this year, that’s how mascots are made, not some predetermined, administration driven,controlled internet vote where you can vote but only for what the administration allows you to vote for, on canidates without any basis on what is accutally happening at the moment. What the fuck way is that to pick a mascot. A squirrel running across the plate in a key at bat is something real all Cardinal fans can relate to and remember. The bear is totally contrived.

by SouthavenRebel on Dec 12, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's something I posted a long time ago on the subject:

It Was A Trap

I’m normally not a fan of sharing my views with the World Wide Web, and I especially dislike the idea of raising what should be a dead issue, but one thing really bothers me about the mascot selection process.

In reflecting on what has become the nationally recognized Ole Miss mascot debate, or perhaps debacle, one thing is inherently clear: it was a trap.

On February 23, 2010, the ASB asked the students to vote, "Do you want to be part of the process of developing a new mascot?" Clearly, a vote of "No" would allow the powers that be to have free reign in organizing the mascot selection process. That would not be in the best interest of Ole Miss.

Voting "Yes" poses another problem. A "Yes" vote presumes that the students wanted a new mascot at all. There is another issue with the "Yes" vote. As we have seen, the media has completely misrepresented the vote of February 23. Media outlets ranging from CNN to ESPN to The DM have announced, "Students vote to develop new mascot." That is not what we voted for. Moreover, it does not appear that anyone has attempted to clarify this.

Surely the ASB recognized this gross misrepresentation in the media, yet they did nothing to clarify it. This lends to the argument that the elected ASB representatives intended to instate a new mascot without the consent of the student body.

The only method of protest in the vote of February 23 was not voting. Many students did just that. In fact, only 3,366 students voted. According to CollegeProwler.com, Ole Miss has 14,433 undergraduate students. That means that only about 23 percent of students voted.

So, with respect to the issues raised in this article, how can one legitimately say that the Ole Miss student body voted to develop a new mascot? (Hint: they can’t)

Although the train has left the station and it appears that our new mascot will be a brown black bear, the students have yet to answer the question, "Do you want a new mascot?"

LINK

Aren't we Ole Miss by damn?

by goulajamz on Dec 12, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be worse

If ESPN had their way, a fucking Star Trek character would be our mascot.

by SouthavenRebel on Dec 12, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

*Star Wars

Don’t belittle the Force, please.

Aren't we Ole Miss by damn?

by goulajamz on Dec 13, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Ackbar would have been fucking awesome.

Don’t deny it. Lasers and light sabers and droids and Princess Leia in a metal bikini and shit.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 13, 2011 6:24 AM EST up reply actions  

We go from #3 party school

to #1 nerdiest school in one fell swoop, good idea.

by SouthavenRebel on Dec 13, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck yeah bro

let’s get our Axe body spray on and beat the shit out of some calculus majors.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh no, the thought of our university being known for academics.

The horror.

/dismissivehandwank

You know what a lot of people think of when they think of the “typical” Ole Miss student? They think of a self-important, spoiled, white suburban brat who cares more about getting wasted and putting on airs of superiority than actually doing shit with his or her undergraduate years. Oh, and racism. They think about that too.

I would MUCH rather have people think “man, those Ole Miss students are a bunch of geeks” than “man, those Ole Miss students are a bunch of snotty bigots.” I don’t think I’m crazy to think this.

[I say this as a white, suburban brat who spent a lot of time partying and being an asshole. Seriously, I’m was not much different than a lot of other Ole Miss students during my undergrad years. Even then, I find your argument hardly convincing.]

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 13, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

How many Ole Miss students does is take to change a tire?

Two, one to hold the drinks while the other calls Daddy.

I know, but seriously, turning the Grove into a weekly Star Trek convetion is better?

by SouthavenRebel on Dec 13, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't argue that

But when have you ever seen a redneck in a white sheet at the grove. I missed that tent. The blonde on the right does look like a girl I had philosophy class with my sophmore year, though, I’ll admit that.

by SouthavenRebel on Dec 13, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 13, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't be obtuse.

Is the Grove a weekly live-action rendition of Bernstein Bears books now? Ole Miss wouldn’t have changed into anything as the result of the Ackbar mascot (which was a satirical campaign anyway).

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 14, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Reminds me of that quote from The Other Guys...

“You learned to dance like that sarcastically?”

Aren't we Ole Miss by damn?

by goulajamz on Dec 14, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It ISN'T?!

No wonder I’m not getting any traction from the ladies by wearing overalls, a yellow shirt and a big floppy hat while asking if they want to go on a “Big Honey Hunt”.

by HandsomeSam on Dec 14, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Ole Miss is not stronger than the Force

Hell, we’re not stronger than La Tech.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 13, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I loved how Rowdy Rebel

was racially ambiguous.

Rebel Bruiser looks like someone from New Jersey at an “Ole Miss” themed swap.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 12, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey brah, you ain't gettin it.

My point is that it DIDN’T go horribly wrong. Horribly wrong is people shitting in the Grove. It’s daytime fuckin fireworks. It’s a goddamned clan rally on campus during a football weekend. It’s Head coaches ass raping little boys. It’s shooting sprees during a national presidential debate. It’s earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave, human sacrifice, dogs and cats, living together, MASS HYSTERIA!!!

We saw none of that. All we saw was a situation handled to the best of the administrations abilities which was not perfect in any sense of the word. What we got was contrived, forced and tenuously connected to Ole Miss at best, but it was NOT horrible. I happen to agree with you that the most prudent course of action would have been to leave the mascot issue completely alone until some random, fan or player generated “tradition” started and took root. Then, after 5 years of people making their own mascot t-shirts, signs, bumper stickers and lapel pins, the university adopts the new symbol. However, the bumbling morans in our admin offices thought they could handle it on their own. They were wrong. BUT, we most certainly did not end up with The Kudzu, Rebel Bruiser or Captain Turd Burglar. NONE OF WHICH are outside the realm of possibility because… WAOM.

by OxpatchReb on Dec 13, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

That a substantial portion of our fanbase have

child-like mindsets?

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

*Has

goddamn subject verb agreement.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 13, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No

But a substancial portion of the administration might.

by SouthavenRebel on Dec 13, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, good question.

It’s really just a marketing tool. That’s it and that’s all. I would totally be fine with Ole Miss not having one.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 13, 2011 6:25 AM EST up reply actions  

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 12, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

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