RCRuiting: Salvage the Class
Whoever our next coach is will have to hit the ground running in terms of recruiting. We can't afford to have a terrible class immediately following the best freshman class we've had since 2007. The state of Mississippi isn't very deep in terms of SEC talent this year, but there are players to be had, and we've got to get some of them.
It's also important for our next coach to evaluate what we already have committed and decide who to keep from that bunch. After the jump, check out five players we have committed that we should keep and five players who are uncommitted but need to be pursued.
Five Players We Need To Keep
1. RB I'Tavius Mathers - Blackman High School - Murfreesboro, TN
Mathers is rated as the #16 RB and #237 overall player nationally by Rivals.com. He ranks as the #5 player in Tennessee.
Scouting: Mathers flashes good vision and an aggressive running style. Based solely on highlight film, he doesn't appear to have trouble making decisions of where to run next, taking the ball and following holes where he can. He certainly doesn't have elite speed, and that's something about which to worry.
Why we need him: Mathers is our most decorated recruit by far. He has offers from Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame, and South Carolina (as well as several others). So other people seem to think him a worthy recruit. On top of that, we won't have any bruising backs next season with Brandon Bolden and Enrique "The Freakay" Davis graduating. We've got to be able to get tough yards when we need them, and Mathers is the most likely of our backs to do that.
2. DT/DE Isaac Gross - South Panola High School - Batesville, MS
Gross is listed as the #25 defensive tackle nationally and the #4 player in Mississippi.
Scouting: The South Panola star is a bit undersized at defensive tackle (270 lbs.), but he has good strength and speed. A pocket disruptor, Gross is in the backfield quickly after the ball is snapped. He does have trouble fighting blocks and has been able to get around that with speed in high school. He'll need to use more than that at the next level.
Why we need him: Gross is incredibly useful to whoever our new coach is. If we stick with a traditional 4-3 defense, he can be the pass rushing defensive tackle who also plays some defensive end. If we transition to a 3-4, he's a great fit at defensive end. Either way, you get a big guy with above average speed on the defensive line. You can see how ineffective defenses are when they can't get to the quarterback. Adding Gross would go a long way to remedying that.
3. RB Jaylen Walton - Ridgeway High School - Memphis, TN
Walton is listed as the #8 all-purpose back nationally and the #8 player in Tennessee.
Scouting: Walton is exceptionally fast and possesses the ability to change direction quickly. While undersized, he's the type of gimmick player around which some offensive sets can be designed. If we can get Walton the ball in open space, he could be trouble for opposing defenses. That said, he's very small.
Why we need him: Our scholarship halfbacks returning next year are SR Devin Thomas, JR Jeff Scott (tentatively), and SO Nick Parker. We've got to add players to that list in order to have any sort of competition at the position. A youth infusion is needed at halfback, and Walton is a wanted man. The back has offers from Arkansas, Auburn, Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Penn State.
4. DE/OLB Temario Strong - South Panola High School - Batesville, MS
Strong is listed as the #16 player in Mississippi.
Scouting: Strong is undersized at defensive end (in height and weight), so the defensive end spot probably isn't right for him, particularly if we switch to a 3-4. He has good technique in tackling, speed, and anticipation. At linebacker, he could contribute.
Why we need him: He may be too slow to ever be a starter, but there's no real way to know that at this point. What we know right now is that he has a good frame, attends South Panola, has good bloodlines, and wants to attend Ole Miss. You take that kid every year.
5. OT Jake Meador - Whiteland High School - Whiteland, Indiana
Meador is listed as the #30 offensive tackle nationally and the #2 player in Indiana.
Scouting: Meador is a little slow, but he does a good job of keeping faster defenders engaged in blocks long enough to spring running backs. He doesn't dominate high school competition, but his highlights suggest he has good technique at this stage in his career. He has a huge frame.
Why we need him: Meador's offer sheet includes Indiana, Kentucky, Louisville, Missouri, and Vanderbilt. While that's not incredible, it's not bad. We've got to sign offensive linemen this year, and Meador is the best one we have committed.
Five Players We Need to Sign
1. DE Channing Ward - Aberdeen High School - Aberdeen, MS
Ward is listed as the #6 strongside defensive end and #88 player nationally. He ranks as the #2 player in Mississippi.
Scouting: Ward is the closest thing to a can't miss prospect in Mississippi. He's big, fast, and smart. He has good technique in pass rushing and displays excellent agility, etc.
Why we want him: Channing's other offers come from every SEC school but Vanderbilt and South Carolina. I'll take any player with those offers regardless of position. That said, Ward provides a pass rush to a team that doesn't have one. He could potentially start immediately and help our defense a great deal.
2. DT Quay Evans - Morton High School - Morton, MS
Evans is listed as the # 15 defensive tackle and #190 player nationally. He ranks as the #3 player in Mississippi.
Scouting: It's not at all normal for a player who weighs three hundred pounds to move as quickly as Quay Evans does. He's got elite athleticism, speed, burst, and strength for a defensive tackle. If Evans weighed 30 pounds more, he'd be an incredible 3-4 nose tackle. As it stands, he's a dominant defensive tackle who can disrupt nearly every play. The problem with Quay lies between the ears. Quay committed to Ole Miss when he was a sophomore only to decommit later. He was quoted as saying college players should be paid over 150k dollars per year. He has been kicked out of several games, and there are always rumors that something he did was the last straw for his high school coach. The only thing stopping Evans from being a can't miss prospect is his personality.
Why we want him: Evans could immediately start for Ole Miss. When coupled with the other potential defensive line recruits in this group, he could potentially give the Rebels the most talented class of defensive linemen in the country. He has offers from LSU, Bama, and anywhere else he wants.
3. QB Jeremy Liggins - Lafayette High School - Oxford, MS
Liggins is listed as the #14 dual-threat quarterback nationally and the #7 player in Mississippi.
Scouting: Liggins is huge (6'3" 270 lbs.) and uses his body to help him run in an aggressive way. He doesn't shy away from contact and falls forward. I've heard his throws are sometimes erratic, but you can't gauge that by his highlight tape. I know he can sling the football. People say his footwork is the issue, and you can see a little of that on tape. I would hope our next OC could help fix that.
Why we want him: First off, we need help at quarterback. Liggins' other offers come from the rest of the SEC. The only SEC team who hasn't offered him is South Carolina. Regardless of whether he'll work out as a quarterback, you take a guy with his athleticism.
4. OT Cordarrly Gaines - Provine High School - Jackson, MS
Gaines is listed as the #9 player in Mississippi.
Scouting: I can't find any film on Gaines. He's 6'5" and weighs 320 lbs. Both recruiting sites like him. He's the consensus #1 offensive lineman in Mississippi.
Why we need him: He plays on the offensive line. We need some people who do that.
5. LB Richie Brown - Long Beach High School - Long Beach, MS
Brown is listed as the #8 player in Mississippi.
Scouting: Brown is very fast and physical. He is patient but doesn't let patience mean a lot of extra yardage for ball carriers. The one thing I would say is he doesn't tackle all that well. I mean, in his highlights he obviously always tackles, but he struggles to wrap up and hits pretty high. Also, he needs to gain weight.
Why we want him: Honestly, we want him because he's a talented linebacker. While that's not a major need position for us right now, you can't pass that up. He can redshirt in his first year then be a backup for a year or so before starting. His noteworthy offer comes from LSU, and they may lead. I heard he was turned off by our coaching staff though, so new blood might actually help.
So.... that said...
Obviously there are players we need to sign who aren't on this list. I'm just throwing out a list of people the next coach will OBVIOUSLY pursue. It's tough to know which players he'll approach who are out-of-state. If we can sign these ten players though, we'll have a good foundation for the first class.
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Pirate Ship Sails
According to the Daily Mistake Jackson Addition Leach is heading to Washington State.
http://blogs.clarionledger.com/um/2011/11/30/the-pirate-is-back-at-washington-state/
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by SkylarkThibedeau on Nov 30, 2011 4:29 PM EST reply actions
Why Olemiss did not seriously consider him is beyond me
Dammit
by Olemissbuckeye on Nov 30, 2011 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He didn't do things "The Ole Miss Way".
A loud abrasive foul-mouthed Mormon from Wyoming who runs weird offensive schemes and has a feud with ESPN? We knew this guy wasn’t coming to Ole Miss. Who cares if he’s never actually had a losing season as a HC and coached in a BCS conference, we need a guy who can help us do the same shit we’ve been doing for the past 30 years*, and do it without offending the boosters!
*playing mediocre to bad football
by HandsomeSam on Nov 30, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What's sad about this is that it's true.
A good portion of the Ole Miss fan base cares more about the image a guy will project as a person. They want a gladhander, a schmoozer, and guy with a silky smooth yet molasses thick Southern accent who can charm the shit out of little old white ladies at the Presbyterian church, a guy who will yuk it up with boosters on the golf course and pose for pictures with their children in the Grove. Mike Leach isn’t any of that. He’s a quirky asshole who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and acts accordingly, which sits well with exactly zero people in power to make decisions at Ole Miss.
He was the best coach on the market, and we could have fucking had him. I really do worry that he, Rich Rod, and a handful of others are going to start succeeding at their next gigs and end up being the ones that got away.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 1, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So here we are
A small school with a small alumni base and a small budget, with a cheap and meddlesome athletic department to compound that disadvantage, regressive alumni who long for another Johnny Vaught, are in a small state with two other D-1 programs, and get to play in the SEC west. Also, we have fan base with unreasonable expectations (to be fair like the rest of fanbases). Leach was the only proven guy with the ego to come in and deal with the set up to fail scenario.
Stewart Mandel called Olemiss the worst job in America in his last mailbag. I can’t say I disagree. Tradition (mostly of losing) can kiss my ass. I want to see us win.
by Olemissbuckeye on Dec 1, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
Stewart Mandel is a fucking moron
and if beating four nonconference foes, Vandy, State and UK are “unreasonable expectations,” then I’m an unreasonable human. I have yet to see anyone say “We should be competing for SEC championships or be in New Years bowls every year.”
Asking us to not lose to the three teams in the SEC with smaller budgets and then LA Tech, BYU et al is not unreasonable.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 1, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
Not one person here has unreasonable expectations. Being competitive and beating teams with less is hardly unreasonable. Our expectation is what State has done the past 2 years. Anything on top of that is gravy.
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by ColRebsLastBreath on Dec 1, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
couldn't agree more....
I don’t understand why everyone thinks we have crazy expectations. I was on a bama board talking about if Smart should take our HC job, and other than selfish idiots who either want to keep him or just don’t want him in the SEC at all, the rest of the people on there just kept talking about our unrealistic expectations. I haven’t heard anyone saying this new coach better bring a national championship next year. Personally I think as soon as possible, we should get to where we win all our non conference games and the State and Vandy. On years we have UK, them too. Go to some smaller bowls and have a happy fan base for a few years. That should put us fifth in the west under current conference structure. Then when the coach has his players in the system and has recruited the team himself, let’s shoot to move up a slot. Be fourth in the west, and then improve to third. And so on, so that when the pendulum swings back to us and the current powerhouses are having a few tough years, we will be poised with talent, stability, and a seasoned coach to make that championship run. I feel like we all know we will spend quite a few years in the middle of the west standings. And that’s ok….. For now I just want to be bowl eligible and beat State. If the new coach can do that, I’m a happy Rebel! Black bear and all!!
by Colonel Reb's Last Stand on Dec 1, 2011 11:34 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Our "unreasonable expectations" is a myth that's out of control.
Hopefully, any coach that is brought in will figure out the truth before people like Stewart Mandel sour them toward us.
"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt
That's exactly how OSU did it.
Between 1988 (the year Barry Sanders left if I’m not mistaken) and 2002, the Cowboys went to just one bowl, the 1997 Alamo where they lost to Purdue.
Les Miles took over in 2001 and OSU finished 4-7. Then, they went 8-5, 9-4, and 7-5 before he departed for LSU. After a decade of finishing at or near the bottom in the Big 12, Miles moved OSU to a middle tier program, where they hovered between 5 and 9 wins for about five or six years. Then, Mike Gundy continued that success, making an 8 or 9 win season the standard. With a couple of good skill players, all of the sudden you’re staring at a one loss season.
Now, obviously that success coincides with T Boone Pickens’ investment in Stillwater, but most of that money didn’t show up until 2002 after Miles beat Oklahoma and then won the Houston Bowl in 2002. Then he basically pays to have the stadium upgraded and expanded and now OSU is consistently a top-25 program and has sent multiple coordinators onto head coaching jobs.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 1, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a common point for us, and I for one am glad to see there are like-minded people.
I think that the back-to-back Cotton Bowls his first two years did set the bar a little high for Nutt, but even if he won the Gator Bowl and then the Liberty Bowl, I still don’t think he’d be here. There’s no escaping our implosion over the past 2 years.
That being said, I think the opportunity is there for the next coach to slowly work his way up. We are not going to the Cotton Bowl next year – I don’t care if they hire Nick Saban, we’re not going. Hell, I put the chance of us going to any bowl game at 1 in 3, at best. And I am ok with that. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt
What are reasonable expectations for next year?
Looking at our schedule, I think even 5 wins is a stretch. Obviously, it’s going to be a transition season, and I think we should be prepared to finish last or second-to-last in the SEC.
My outlook:
Central Ark.—W
UTEP—W
Texas—L
@Tulane—W
Florida—L (or Texas A&M—L)
Vanderbilt—W/L
@Bama—L
@Ark.—L
Auburn—L
@UGA—L
@LSU—L
MS St.—W/L
What are reasonable expectations for next year?
Looking at our schedule, I think even 5 wins is a stretch. Obviously, it’s going to be a transition season, and I think we should be prepared to finish last or second-to-last in the SEC.
My outlook:
Central Ark.—W
UTEP—W
Texas—L
@Tulane—W
Florida—L (or Texas A&M—L)
Vanderbilt—W/L
@Bama—L
@Ark.—L
Auburn—L
@UGA—L
@LSU—L
MS St.—W/L
Good lord, I hadn't looked at the schedule in detail.
I hope the new coach is prepared to lose his last 6-8 games next year. (Maybe we can beat State). Let’s don’t all go off the deep-end when we go on a slide.
"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt
I won't go off the deep end
As long as I see effort and a willingness to try and improve upon the losses and not make simple mistakes.
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by Reb on the Rez on Dec 1, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
To me alot depends on our qb situation. Also how many games were we out played by better talent and how many games were we outcoached ( 4&5 pass to the running back in the flats ).
I dont think we lack talent except at the lines and qb. As big as the oline is there is not reason they suck so bad unless it is bad blocking scheme(coaching). Dline just looks small to me. Qb is just having the wrong people and type of player at that position. Juco/transfer isnt going to cut it.
Besides that we can win Cent Ark, Utep, Tulane, Florida, Vandy, Ark, Auburn, Georgia, State with good coaching a few position upgrades. Realistically though, 6 wins is possible. There is honestly no excuse to lose any of the first four besides Texas. Texas this year sucked so we will see what they have next season.
by Areyouready?nonotreally on Dec 1, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well said. Totally agree.
by Miss Ole Miss on Dec 1, 2011 12:53 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Wow
Let’s back up. First of all, as I said, all fan bases have unreasonable expectations. I also didn’t say people on this particular board are bemoaning that we don’t win BCS bowls year in and year out. Fan base expectations are not a problem relative to our other woes, but I do think we are an interesting crew even if "unrealistic"was a poorly chosen term. I do think our highs get too high and our lows too low relative to many other fanbases. I won’t get further into the psychoanalyis. I am not personally attacking people on this board or reverse trolling our own fanbase. Its just my observation after many years of following Olemiss and the excruciating fan experience that can be for me and my friends. I am not a born/bred rebel so feel free to discount that or take it as a unique perspective within our own fan base. I could care less. Its my observation.
However, turning back to expectations, do you think we as a collective fan base are good with just beating “Vandy, State, and UK”? Really? If so, where do Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU etc fit in that hierarchy? How about incoming A &M and Mizzou? How often should we be beating these teams? I think we agree we are not ok with our non-conference performance the last ten years. Mizzou, Memphis losses, Texas Tech, Wake Forest etc.
Maybe Mandel is a moron, but ad hominem attacks aside, if I am a coach I look long and hard at the gig for the above reasons, which I don’t see addressed.
by Olemissbuckeye on Dec 1, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
We're ok with just beating those 3 *for now*.
Because even that would be a vast improvement over the last 2 years and Orgeron’s disaster. We’d settle for that a for a few years, and then expect improvement. None of that is unreasonable.
by Miss Ole Miss on Dec 1, 2011 12:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Also, if you can win those 3 softer SEC games consistently, you would probably be able to pull off some other SEC games.
I have no doubt that if we had a team that could beat 4 non-conference opponents, Vandy, State, and, say, Kentucky, we would be able to beat Auburn/Arkansas/South Carolina/Tennessee on a down year. And we have played LSU reasonably well recently. Add those games up, and you’re talking about an 8-9 win season.
"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt
I'm excited, I think we are going to have a huge recruiting class.
And, I would LOVE to see Liggins play for us. I have seen this guy play and he is a beast! plus he is from my old high school.
In my body, where the shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland. True story.
by Duece's accoutant on Nov 30, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions
Me three!!!! OMGZ
Seriously though I’d love to have Liggins. I can’t believe D. Dennis isn’t getting more love though. With the amazing numbers he puts up, you’d think he warrants a look at least. The whole competition being weaker is crap as well, if you are going to penalize him for 4A sucking, why not Liggins too?
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by ARebel21 on Dec 1, 2011 1:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Dennis is one of those tweeners
He looks a step slow on tape and I’d guess a lot of recruiters are wary that his success is predicated on teams trying to shut J Lig down.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 1, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Plus, the O-line is massive.
However, I do think he is worth a look. When some one puts up his numbers it is hard to ignore them.
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by Duece's accoutant on Dec 1, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I think Jake Meador decommitted
or is at least considering other schools.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 30, 2011 4:41 PM EST reply actions
Liggins
I’ve heard from locals he is looking elsewhere…and as someone who left a college town to go to school elsewhere, I understand. I hope they are wrong though.
by warrior possum on Nov 30, 2011 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i actually spoke with a lady today who's son plays with liggins...
i asked her what she thought and she said that he is considering ole miss but is obviously exploring all of his options, but his mother “really wants him to be a rebel” (whatever that’s worth).. plus, accoring to her, he has visited ole miss 3 times.. we can only hope he listens to his mommy
by RebelBlackBear on Nov 30, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Let's Hope
I was talking to this dude who said he was Liggins’ uncle (to quote the Texas coach from the Marcus Durpree ESPN documentary, “there is always an uncle”) and he said he really likes LSU. Really hope that ain’t true.
by warrior possum on Nov 30, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Da 'Boro!
We gotta get Mathers! Been waiting for a fellow boro boy to come down here.
by warrior possum on Nov 30, 2011 5:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Great RB. He will for sure play next year if he stays on board.
by p-willie'snewtubes on Nov 30, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I live outside Nashville
And when I watch the Friday Football roundup on News Channel 5, Mathers is almost always featured. The kid is a beast. I really hope we get him.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
I’m partial to Touchdown Friday on channel 4 myself. Rudy Kalis knows how to rock a cosby sweater.
Beer and hot wings....mmmmmm
by Slates on Nov 30, 2011 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Holy Crap!
I forgot about Kalis. I’m 30 and can tell you he’s been rockin’ the Cosby sweaters since the ’80’s.
by warrior possum on Nov 30, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Who is the #1 player in MS?
And why should we not want to sign him?
by astaylo1 on Nov 30, 2011 5:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Channing Ward should be if he isn't.
I will predict that, if Kirby is hired, we will get the majority of the studs within Mississippi considering they are mostly defensive. The D-Line class could be potentially the best in OM history if he could get them all.
by p-willie'snewtubes on Nov 30, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Quay Evans
is top dog on Scout. But I don’t think either prospect will be a bust by any means.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 30, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
He just verbally committed to state. That sucks
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by Duece's accoutant on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Anthony Alford
Petal QB who is likely to go pro in baseball.
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by Juco All-American on Nov 30, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Senquez Golson
is going to be quite good. Seriously. I know he had trouble tackling potential Heisman winner Trent RIchardson in the open field as a true freshman. That doesn’t bother me much.
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by Juco All-American on Dec 1, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
"...had trouble tackling potential Heisman winner Trent Richardson
after traversing the entire field in a full-on sprint, in the open field as a true freshman."
FTFY
He overpursued, tried to gain some footing, and lost his balance. He also looked absolutely exhausted from chasing down Trent (and, for anyone who criticizes a footballer for this, watch players after they score touchdowns of 40+ yards. Even in the NFL they’re huffing and puffing because they don’t train to run marathons; they train to sprint while carrying unhuman amounts of muscle and fat on their bones).
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 1, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't
place a 40+ yard touchdown run in the marathon category. You said it yourself, these kids sprint train, HIIT. Sure they are a little gassed after a long run, but that is what they train for. They run fast and hard and recover quickly. Golson is young and inexperienced and will be a great player for us, but I wouldn’t excuse him for exhaustion. He just got juked, it happens. He’ll be better (hopefully) because of it.
Oh yeah?
What do you know anyway? You’re just a has been kicker.
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by bowtierebel on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha
It was all that Dan Marino’s fault, everyone knows that. If he had held the ball, laces out, like he was supposed to, Ray would never have missed that kick. Dan Marino should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell.
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by Duece's accoutant on Dec 1, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Well now that Ray's back, where is Lois Einhorn?
"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt
What the... That's it! Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn! Einhorn is a man!
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by Duece's accoutant on Dec 1, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
If you watch the GIF
you’ll notice that Golson actually stopped Richardson from traversing the field how he wanted to. It’s just that two downfield blockers ended up blocking three of our defenders from getting to Richardson on the play.
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by Juco All-American on Dec 1, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Near the sideline
a DB (and any defensive player for that matter) is coached to wrap up the ballcarrier and drive him out of bounds. I don’t think anyone is questioning Golson’s ability…he’s going to be a really good football player. He just got juked by an incredible athlete. My only argument was that exhaustion shouldn’t be used as an excuse, especially considering sprints/races such as these are what these players are trained for. If he’s too tired to make that play, he should have been on the sideline catching his breath. That would speak to either his conditioning or subs not being used effectively. I don’t think it’s either, I just think he was bested by a badass move. However, if conditioning is a problem, a qualified coaching hire will rectify it quickly.
Wasn't trying to hate on Senquez-
He has more heart and ability than most of the team. I was just trying to point out that he turned down a deal from the Red Sox only to become the centerpiece of Richardson’s highlight reel. And I can see how dual-sport athletes would be justified in saying “fuck that shit” and taking the money instead. It’s not Senquez’s fault that our team is coming off of back-to-back horrid seasons and is in the midst of a coaching transition, but I think some athletes who are deciding between Ole Miss football and something else will view his decision as a cautionary tale and choose the latter. In short, I only meant to express my current frustration with the program as a whole.
Scratch Leach..
Will be WSU HC according to reports..
by Geaux To Hell LSU on Nov 30, 2011 6:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just so it's not a total bitch-fest for me today
As always, a “thank you” to JUCO for the recruiting round-up.
I want most of the guys on our list.
But I want them to re evaluate OL recruits. We have not done a good job in that area.
We also need to sign at least 2 210-225lb Rb’s, that can punish teams to go along with the FB we recruited who is rated #4 in the country.
I also want 1 jc Qb, and at least
2 HS Qb’s, sooner or later we are bound to find a gem that was rated a 2 star and turns out to be a gamer.
I know there are other areas we need players, but this is an area we have been missing on consistently.
I am hope the CUP’s inside info is right and we get Smart, I have heard Boise’s OC Pease, would be our guy for offense. He might also help recruit some guys out west. We’ll see…
by hotstove97 on Nov 30, 2011 7:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I dont want to see another transfer or Juco qb ever again. We have a big back signed also.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/107100/kenno-loyal
by Areyouready?nonotreally on Nov 30, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you.
I want QBs recruited out of high school and developed into a system from the start rather than patching the holes in our offense with transfers.
And how have I not heard of Kenno Loyal yet? The little bit I was able to read about him (not an insider) makes me really excited to see what he can do.
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I get what you're saying. We need a talented QB out of high school that can actually start for at least three years.
Having said that, Snead was a big part in our ’08 and ’09 seasons, especially ’08.
Juco
Bravo comment on the offensive linemen – “We need some people who do that” Jesus tap dancing Christ we need that.
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by HottyToddyBraves on Nov 30, 2011 9:46 PM EST reply actions
We need EVERYONE on that list!
I think the SP boys in Gross and Strong aren’t going anywhere. I pretty much know for a fact Gross isn’t from what i’ve read. He is a Rebel.
We need Mathers, Channing Ward, and Richie Brown! Quay Evans might be one of the best DT’s i have ever seen but he has anger problems and supposed grade issues. Heard that from a MooU fan i’ve grown up with.
Meador has decommitted. Doesn’t look good with him. Love the assessment though! Great Job!
The Book of Eli.
- A step by step instructional book on how to win at Ole Miss. It's called..........a Manning.
Evans' grades can use work, but a DT with anger problems.....
DO NOT TOUCH! I say gas that shit up.
The night before the LSU game, steal his Trans-Am, trash it out, and paint that fucker purple and gold.
Agreed, I want a angry noseguard.
by Areyouready?nonotreally on Dec 1, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
So who the hell does that leave out there as far as coaches go??
I saw an interview here in H-Town with Sumilin (U of H) where they asked him point blank if he was coming back and he dodged it like a hot potato, also heard Briles (Baylor) is being courted by some schools hard.
I think we are pretty much with Freeze or Smart.
by Areyouready?nonotreally on Dec 1, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Where do you get this info?
Archie said that they are waiting to interview coaches who have games left, and Bama is not done until January, so Smart probably would have already been hired if he was the top prospect.
Freeze may be one of the coaches to be interviewed since they have a game on Dec. 3, but it doesn’t make sense to me that he would be our first option—he’s a bit of a gamble given his limited experience.
So, I’m convinced (and hopeful) that we have some interviews lined up with some coaches other than Freeze and Smart. I know the Cup’s prospect list only included four coaches, but surely the search committee’s scope is bigger than that. I’m guessing that when Glenn is making a hire for Fed-Ex, he reviews dozens of resumes and conducts several interviews, and I hope he brings that same analytical approach to the coaching hire—i.e., (1) assess all options, (2) prioritize, (3) interview, (4) select.
The pool of potential coaches shrinks by the hour. I hope they know what they're doing.
"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt
LEACH NEVER HAD A REALISTIC CHANCE
It is possible that a few key parties would not want Leach in the SEC. Apparently he will not agree to drop his lawsuit against ESPN, who, by the way, pays the conference huge $$$$$ money for the television broadcast rights. It is hard to imagine that the lawsuit issue was not discussed or considered by Archie, Glenn, or Jones (the “Committee”). Further, as manipulative as ESPN allegedly can be, it would not be a surprise to learn that ESPN made sure that the SEC and/or the Committee were aware of its feelings regarding Leach.
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I haven't thought of this...
What if you’re right? Think of all the unjustified disappointment there is in the search committee. I want to lol (there’s people around)
by stampman4390 on Dec 1, 2011 1:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
They pay the Pac 12 a shitload of money too.
The same “issues” that he could have here don’t simply cease to exist in Washington. Wazzu was just tired of being the rest of the Pac 12’s bitch and ponied up the money to hire the best head coach available for their football program. They don’t give a damn about image or controversy; they do give a damn about winning football games. I can only hope that our program makes a step like that one day.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 1, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah,
before Leach, they were paying their HC 600,000. Leach will get a cool 2 million.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 1, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
The Pac 12's new ESPN contract has to have something to do with that.
Look at all the hires they’re making out west. Leach, Rich Rod, Sumlin at ASU (probably gonna happen)… They have more money to work with now.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 1, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Its such complete BS
We’re sitting on the sidelines with our thumbs apparently up our asses and everyone else is making moves.
To me that only means one of two things. Either the search committee is not independent (ie they have to get someone elses premission to pull the trigger on someone), or they have already got someone and are waiting for them to play their last game of the season before they announce it. That, or everyone that is in charge of this “search” is a complete mother grabbing moron.
Well if you believe the media reports
There have been several that are now gone that expressed interest in the position, right?
True.
But what are they supposed to say?
Van Pelt: “Coach Rich Rod, are you interested in the Ole Miss job?”
Rich Rod: “Hell no. I would never go there.”
It’s in his interest to make all the other schools think he’s talking and interested in other jobs.
"They score so fast it messes you up" - Houston Nutt
So basically your saying
This is the response Archie is getting????
(first scene)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DouPRc4-ixw&feature=related
Holgorson
I don’t pay to read the rivals site when I can pretty much get what I need here for free. On that note they have a picture of Holgorson on their page now and saying he is the lateset name to be rumored. Is he being rumored because of his connection to Gunter at Oklahoma State?
Thoughts on whether you would rather have Holgorson or Kirby Smart?
by RufusFrenchForHeisman on Dec 1, 2011 2:00 PM EST reply actions
I'd take Holgorson over Smart every day of the week
but I find it highly unlikely that he’ll jump from WVU after one year, especially when he’d be jumping into the mess we have. I imagine we’d have to overpay to sway him, and that seems like a bad idea.
by TwoYardsandaCloudofEnricky on Dec 1, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take Holgorson in a heartbeat.
The rumors are that he has been contacted as well. I don’t necessarily doubt them (we’ve contacted a LOT of people) and I don’t really know anything more than that.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 1, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Redku
We lost the Pirate
Hudspeth, Briles, and Sumlin fade.
Is it Smart to Freeze?
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by SkylarkThibedeau on Dec 1, 2011 2:06 PM EST reply actions
Blueku
Damn you Dave Cutcliffe
If you had just fired someone
We’d still be OK
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by SkylarkThibedeau on Dec 1, 2011 2:08 PM EST reply actions
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by SkylarkThibedeau on Dec 1, 2011 3:43 PM EST reply actions
Bad news
MSU just got a verbal commit from Quay Evans.
by Areyouready?nonotreally on Dec 1, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions
If Kirby is hired, he ends up at OM, IMO.
But if he sticks with State, then he and Nick James will make up one nasty interior D-Line… especially if they can pull AJ and Channing, too.
by p-willie'snewtubes on Dec 2, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
Fortunately
he’s a grade risk. Isaac Gross, however, is not.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I like your positive attitude.
Plus, a lot can happen between now and February.
Yeah,
CJ was committed to State at this time last year.
Quay is a beast, but I’m not overly worried about it. Gross reminds me a lot of a young Peria Jerry. One of the reasons PJ was so explosive was because he was a bit undersized when he came in and added about 40 LBS. If Gross can get in the weightroom and be 290-300 after a year or two, he’ll be a goody.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Dec 2, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Here Ole MIss sits broken hearted
They thought they would get a coach who was the shit
But olny got the leftovers like walking through the room were someone just farted…………
H-Town news reporting that Sumilin is #1 on the list for Texas A&M this morning after the firing of Sherman.
I guess we’ll get to see that Leachesque offense in the SEC afterall!
I still think we're gonna get a coach worth a damn,
even though we missed out on Sumlin and Leach.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 2, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
i hope so.
people keep throwing freeze’s name around, but i have to believe that we’ll get a better hire than that. why put the Manning/Glenn names on this search committee, only to come up with a guy like freeze? i’m not saying he’s bad coach or anything, but i want to believe that the purpose of those famous faces is to pull a bigger name than freeze. or fedora.
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by Sideline Snead on Dec 2, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Briles is still out there
I’d take him in a minute

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