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Rebel Roundup - November 28, 2011

Bulldogs savoring Egg win | The Clarion-Ledger
The idea of Mississippi State "savoring" a win over our lowly Rebels says more than any of us can regarding the mindset of the Bulldog fan base. Folks, you savor things like full-bodied red wines, well-aged scotches, perfectly grilled ribeyes, and anything else worth a significant price or trouble to procure and prepare. You don't savor something like a box of chicken McNuggets. "Savoring" the defeat of the worst Ole Miss team since the invention of color television, is, all things considered, lame.

Sayeth Dan Mullen post Egg Bowl:

Hopefully all the kids in the state of Mississippi understand this is where you come to win championships.

Hell of a trollin' job you're doing there, Dan. You know, Coach, I'm sure you think you're the smartest guy in the room, but we're all not that stupid. Well, "we" as in "those of us up north." Have fun pandering to rubes.

Bulldogs put Rebels out of their Misery | SEC Blog - ESPN
That's more like it, because that's exactly what the loss was like for the team, fans, and even coaches. After the game, Rebel nation heaved a collective sigh of "well, at least that's over with now." On with the coaching change!

Rebels Look Forward to New Regime | Rivals
Barry Brunetti says that this team needs "[s]omeone who can bring in discipline and believe in us." You know things have gotten bad when one of this team's own players - a sophomore quarterback who saw a collective total of maybe five quarters of play all season, no less - readily and fully admits that the team's problem is one of discipline and attitude wrought about by, largely, poor coaching.

Ole Miss to interview Hudspeth? | The Advertiser
Oh, there are rumors alright. We aren't sure how true they are, but we do believe that Mark Hudspeth, the head coach of the UL Lafayette Ragin’ Cajuns, either has already or will soon interview with Ole Miss regarding the job. How serious the hiring committee is regarding his candidacy, I haven't a clue.

Red Wolves' Freeze Takes To Twitter To Refute 'Report' He's Hired At Ole Miss | ArkansasSports360.com
Similar rumors floated about regarding Arkansas State's Hugh Freeze, to which he replied on Twitter that he was not the next head coach at Ole Miss. He is, as you all know, a legitimate candidate for the job, but we doubt that anything beyond that has taken place.

Urban Meyer Takes Ohio State Job | ESPN
Good for Urbs, good for Ohio State, good for the B1G, and good for those of us tired of hearing our fans clamor for his hiring, as if he'd retire from Florida to take the vacant Ole Miss job two years later.

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Ready for all of it to be over!

Even all of the rumors on the coaching search is getting tiresome. I will say this it is interesting to see where the university jet has been flying plus I have noticed FedEx corporate jet has gotten into the mix of landing at Oxford then going to Hattisburg and then onto Miami, Fl. Oh how low it is to be a fan when you look at flight plans of corporate jets :( GO TO HELL STATE FANS AND SHITHEAD DAN MULLEN!!! Hell LSU fans have been better than you idiots.

by rk9762 on Nov 28, 2011 9:29 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

com'on man

Hell people I was just making fun of how low it is to be an ole miss fan right now. I know exactly how many planes fly in and out of university Oxford airport because I fly in and out of there at least twice a month. Hell if you look for one of those FedEx planes it left miami and onto the caribbean.

by rk9762 on Nov 28, 2011 1:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Just the facts

A jet registered to Skyway Aero Inc. with tail number N45TL flew from Oxford to New Orleans yesterday. It is scheduled to return this afternoon.

Another jet, registered to John Fabick Tractor Co. with tail number N963JF, flew from Oxford to St. Louis yesterday. It also is scheduled to return this afternoon.

I have no idea whether these flights are coach-hunt related, but the timing is suspect.

by goulajamz on Nov 28, 2011 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

The first is not Archie...

That’s for sure. He’ll no doubt be in New Orleans until late this evening.

by stampman4390 on Nov 28, 2011 11:17 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Actually,

The Univ. Airport gets quite a bit of jet traffic regularly.

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by BrandonBP on Nov 28, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I figured as much.

When I Googled “Ole Miss jet tail numbers” (high-tech sleuthery) I saw that those tail numbers had been discussed on a Spirit board. I don’t have an account there, so I could only see a little snippet where someone had posted these tail numbers. That’s really my only basis for thinking that these flights are related to the coach search, and I admit that this is weak evidence.

by goulajamz on Nov 28, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

God, everyone acts like the Oxford airport is no NOT busy.

A SHITLOAD of folks fly in and out of that place. My parents live in Lakeway and have to hear that shit constantly… I’m surprised my crazy-at-hell elderly father doesn’t take an RPG out in the backyard and have target practice (he’s still pissed at Trent Lott, Dickie Scruggs and the Army Corps of Engineers for filling in Mistilis Pond so they could lengthen the runway for Dickie’s fucking jet).

Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Nov 28, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The Corps only issued the permit.

"Burn the black jerseys until they are ash. Then, burn the ashes."

by Black Prairie Bullpuppies on Nov 28, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, tell my dad that.

He’s a study in contrasts…a Tea Partying, Confederate flag-waving, Dixie-singing, Colonel Reb-saving… environmental wacko. You’d think the Corps personally drove the animals out of the pond and ran over them. I’m surprised he hasn’t chained himself to trees or put sugar in bulldozer gas tanks (when they widened Jackson Ave from Rebel Drive to the mall he almost did).

Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Nov 28, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy COW...

..THAT IS a study in contrasts!

“Tea partying enviro? YIKES!

The Virginia quake that registered in August 2011 was the direct result of the United States Government bouncing a $14 Trillion Check.

by tlcreb17 on Nov 29, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I do indeed realize that the airport is busy.

I’m not sitting at the end of the runway with binoculars writing down the tail numbers of jets coming and going. The two flights I mentioned had been discussed on Spirit, which is why I considered them newsworthy.

by goulajamz on Nov 28, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

there is a lot of air traffic on football Fridays while I’m in the Grove waiting for it to open.

by GeorgiaReb on Nov 28, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

my wife

flew out of oxford today and will be back tomorrow! MNF AT LARRY’S!!!!!!!!

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by charlym on Nov 28, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry I was busy hating Auburn so I'm really late on this

Mexican spelling? Not Spanish but Mexican spelling.

Does he think they’re writing in farsi across the border? That’s a common language used in certain regions of those “desert people” State fans, also known as the Middle East. Doesn’t

I know they don’t arrange the letters in the same way, Dan, and that there might be a few accents that might make a good ole boy like yourself have an epileptic seizure but you have to admit that the language does tend to represent the language you claim to be able to read.

Don’t worry though. I’m sure that there aren’t that many kids of hispanic descent in the United States who might grow up to be a football recruit. Hardly any people from Mexico in this country, am i right Dan?

Hells bells, I wake up expecting to spend the day smiling over the bloody corpse of Auburn’s season and I get yankee blogger with an Anti-SEC erection and Dan Mullen using the words “Mexican spelling”

People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.

by Wallacewade04 on Nov 28, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Dan Mullen knows that the

only real difference between TSUN’s 2011 pathetic performance and his championship team, is that he beat Kentucky and LA Tech and TSUN didn’t. Thus the gimmicks and hype and flat out stupidity coming from the place where cow flatulence is ruining the biosphere. So you blew out a team on Saturday that had ceased to be a team long ago. Enjoy it while you can Dan. Gimmicks are as about as substantive as making shadow characters on the wall. Sooner or later you must coach MSU out of the SEC cellar or you will be peddling count down timers to Kansas. Hail State? Which high school counselor suggested that crap?

As far as coaches go, we now move on to Ole Miss’ next move. With a Lame Boone in the AD chair, I fear we are in for another let down. Outside of the Cutcliffe/Manning package deal, what have we to show for on field gains thus far? I for one hope that we get off the fence and bring in someone who wants to build a team in Oxford and has the guts and the balls to do it. Period. Stop jacking around and commit to being relevant.
 

by Loxley Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

It's actually more of a belch.

And water vapor has a greater greenhouse effect than methane.

"Burn the black jerseys until they are ash. Then, burn the ashes."

by Black Prairie Bullpuppies on Nov 28, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

"Championships" is a funny word.

It turns out that 2-6 in the SEC qualifies a team for a championship. Who knew?

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by Juco All-American on Nov 28, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Well done!

The Virginia quake that registered in August 2011 was the direct result of the United States Government bouncing a $14 Trillion Check.

by tlcreb17 on Nov 28, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

No shit.

What championship has Mullen one since taking over at State? It just speaks to alternative reality in which Starkville apparently exists.

That was a called play, and I called it Brotha!!! HYYAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

by Catfish Powe-boy on Nov 28, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha - Starkville exists

What will happen to MSST’s awkward-farmy-nobody-pays-attention-to-us complex when TAMU comes with the same noise, in same colors, but with that “we don’t want girl cheerleaders” weirdness?

I propose that Starkville will actually exist less. Inconsequential championship!

Houston Nutt coahes for BRAINS!!!

by Old HWY 6 on Nov 28, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha.

This reminds me of when the diamond girls passed out towels labeled “Nutt Rags” at a baseball game (I think it was 2008). They had no idea what they were handing out (or maybe they did?).

by Crootin' on Nov 28, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

ew

is that for real?

Ole Miss: Shooting Ourselves in the Foot Since Always

by Sideline Snead on Nov 28, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, all too real...

You can order one here in any of nine different colors. It also be purchased with matching pajama bottoms.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

*can be purchased.

We need an edit comment button.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

oops

I guess they didn’t realize that Nutt isn’t our coach. Like everything else State produces, these shirts will be relevant for about two seconds.

by goulajamz on Nov 28, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I see that wit comes at a premium in East Mississippi

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but...

already marked down from $29 to $25. Price will probably drop faster than OM tickets on stubhub.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

zing!

Ole Miss: Shooting Ourselves in the Foot Since Always

by Sideline Snead on Nov 28, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hire Leach.

Leach will bring in a Qb. He wouldnt want the garbage we have. 4 and 5 wide sets Scott, Donte, Singleton, Collins, Philander, and Logan running around. Well one thing that does is make teams like Alabama and Lsu have to get out of their normal defenses. Those teams are stronger than us and most of the time always will be. When you spread them out you get them out of their normal defense which makes them play you on your terms not theirs. Not that our offensive line is great at pass blocking, but with their size they are or should be better suited to be pass blockers.

On defense run the 3-4. Our weakness this year was terrible line play. We have good linebackers. So run Grant, Pena, Bennett, Brown, Jones and Hamliton on the defensive line. Cj, Dt on the outside with Marry, Bryant in the middle. On the outside, corners are Golson and Brassel at corners. Sawyer at fs and Prewitt at ss.

The 3-4 is attacking style defense. The 4-3 is more absorbing defense. We arent big enough or strong enough to absorb the teams in the SEC most of the time. So we need to depend on the correct blitzs packages and the 3-4 has more suprise blitz calls than the easier to read 4-3 blitz calls.

by Areyouready?nonotreally on Nov 28, 2011 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Leach's PR ability = 0

No one wants to donate money to a program where the coach isn’t willing to interact with boosters and fans. And if we are going to be mediocre, we might as well have a likable coach. Whatever upside Leach brings to the field is outweighed by his weirdness and antisocial personality.

by goulajamz on Nov 28, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you need to start preparing yourself for a soft landing...

Without taking sides on who should or should not be our coach, I simply observe that we have been (allegedly) in search mode for 3 weeks, during all of which time Mike Leach has been available and, arguably, campaigning for the job. If he were going to be our next coach he would have been hired already. You don’t have to wait 4 weeks to get Leach, whose name is now cropping up in connection with Washington State and Arizona State…and no doubt others.

Prepare yourself to welcome a different coach to Oxford. Just sayin’.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

Leach would be moving his pirate gear in right now if we were going to hire him.

by Crootin' on Nov 28, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I am holding out hope till we have a new coach and Leach is coaching elsewhere.

by Areyouready?nonotreally on Nov 28, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If Ole Miss is hiring Mike Leach

It’s probably going down today or tomorrow for this reason. I disagree he’d have been hired already because Ole Miss wouldn’t have announced it during the season, but a deal probably would’ve been made behind the scenes.

I’ve never been on the Mike Leach bandwagon, certainly not the way a lot of people here are, but if all the rumors that Freeze and Hudspeth are the #1 and #2 candidates are true, I’m really starting to hope the Leach supporters are right.

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by Wild Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that Monday's coming to an end, I am almost 100% sure it's not Leach.

If there’s no announcement tomorrow, then it’s for sure not him. If they were hiring him, the agreement would have already been in place – with an announcement right after the season.

But who the hell knows??? After the fiasco of letting Nutt finish the season, I have no idea what they’re all thinking.

by Crootin' on Nov 28, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

There has been some discussion of a possible Tuesday afternoon team meeting.

“Meeting Tuesday pm…No meeting Tuesday pm….Wait, be available in case there’s a Tuesday pm team meeting….”

Even if there is a meeting, it will not necessarily be to announce a new coach…it could be to announce further suspensions.

From the father of a player at lunch today, bottom line is team knows nothing.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Then we all

should prepare ourselves for more losses. We are not going to consistantly out Alabama or Lsu, Alabama and LSU.

Hudspeth is a state guy. Why give them the satifaction of that.

Freeze isnt ready for the Sec.

Gus is garbage without Cam Newton. Last I checked, we dont have a Cam coming to us or on the sidelines atm.

Kirby isnt going to come to Ole Miss and event then he will more than likely try to play Alabama style football against Alabama and it wont work.

Fedora? I hope this isnt even a thought atm.

Briles is a understudy of Leach, why get him if you can get Leach. Also another Cam situation. Everything is alot easier with a great qb. His record before this guy hasnt been great. 57-53 career record.

Sumlin, he has a awesome Qb. He has a winning record but hasnt been coaching long. Next question really should be, would he leave Houston for the trainwreck we have.

Who else.

Not hiring Leach will be a huge mistake.

by Areyouready?nonotreally on Nov 28, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They all suck, Leach included, for different reasons

Accept that we’re going to get a shitty coach regardless and move on.

Ambitious, but rubbish.

by UMBAI on Nov 28, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I have held out hope for a long time that Leach would be our next coach. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like he’s going to be for a myriad of different reasons. This is stating the obvious, but the administration needs to nail this hire. It might take us a decade to recover if they bring in another mediocre coach who can’t develop talent and runs the program even lower into the ground. The only names out there that really excite me are Leach, Sumlin, or Briles. I think the absolute worst hire we could make would be Larry Fedora, which probably means they’ll be announcing his hire tomorrow.

by bball1984 on Nov 28, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The absolute worst we could do is Freeze or Hudspeth

Fedora is a good CUSA coach – not SEC, certainly, but not Sun Belt either.

Ambitious, but rubbish.

by UMBAI on Nov 28, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

What about...

Saban started at Toledo. Meyer started at Bowling Green. Both had mixed success, and I bet that at the time, no one every dreamed that they would be two of the top coaches in the country. I’m not saying that Freeze, Hudspeth, or Fedora will ever be a Saban or Meyer, but it’s worth pointing out that top coaches do not necessarily have to have a remarkable pedigree.

by goulajamz on Nov 28, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed,

Saban went 6-5, 6-5 then 9-2 at Toledo. Then at Michigan State he had two more .500ish seasons before a 9 win season.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

They'd been around more than a year when they went to LSU and Florida too.

Meyer in particular had very good seasons at both Bowling Green and Utah. Freeze and Hudspeth have had one good season in the Sun Belt. Hell the last coach we had here had TWO good seasons in the SEC…It’s just not enough to justify them being the (supposedly) top two candidates. It’s a different story if it’s the best Ole Miss can realistically get,but I really think it’s another case of Ole Miss aiming as low as possible hoping for a miracle.

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by Wild Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree people are shooting for the next Meyer or Saban.

Maybe I’m a realist, but I think we need a proven guy who can take us to (gasp!!!) the Liberty Bowl, then the Music City Bowl, then maybe a Cotton Bowl, then the Liberty Bowl, then the BVAA Compass Bowl, then the Cotton Bowl.

Once we can consistently win, I am all for going for the gold. But right now, one more missed hire might do us in for a long long time.

by Crootin' on Nov 28, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Cutcliffe

3-5 SEC and Shreveport every year looks good now

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by SkylarkThibedeau on Nov 28, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have Freeze or Hudspeth

as opposed to Fedora. I just don’t think his style of play will work in the SEC.

by bball1984 on Nov 28, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

but how does Briles and Sumlin excite you. They both have really good qbs and both are playing in kind of crappy conferences. Leach was coaching in the Big 12 went it was pretty good.

Honestly this is a style change we need. We need the bear, dixie, col. reb, Ed O, Nutt crap to be over. Leach would do it because he is smart and funny. Leach is honest and will give us wins.

Will we win a national championship with Leach. More than likely not, but you could have Bear Bryant on the sidelines and that stillwould be a long shot.

by Areyouready?nonotreally on Nov 28, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Art Briles

recruited Kevin Kolb, Case Keenum and RGIII. After seeing the dearth of QBs we’ve had, I don’t see how Briles would be unappealing. Moreover, I would argue with anyone that a 6 win season at Baylor is as impressive, if not moreso, than a 9 win season at TT. Baylor used to be the Vandy of the Big 12.

I just don’t think there’s a rat’s hairs worth of difference between Briles and Leach’s abilities as a coach. Plus, as it’s been pointed out, Leach didn’t exactly inherit a program from the brink of collapse. TT was a mediocre team in the Big 12 that became a competitor after four or five 7-8 win seasons. Moreover, outside of Texas and Oklahoma, Leach was playing pre-Briles Baylor, A&M, Colorado, Kansas, Kansas St. etc. OK State and A&M are miles ahead of where they were then.

All that to say, their credentials aren’t going to affect their performance in Oxford. For all you know, Leach’s system could struggle mightily against SEC defenses. This hire has to be about finding the right guy, not necessarily the most flashy or funny or awesome. I’d like Leach on the sidelines, but I’m not more or less excited about that prospect than Briles, Sumlin et al.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No offense

but I think the argument that “Coach X is only good because he has a good QB” is a really bad one. Part of coaching is recruiting good players. If Briles can recruit RGIII to Baylor, I’m sure he can find and recruit another solid, under-the-radar QB to Oxford. Any coach that can take a program that has been a mid to low-tier team in their conference for the better part of two decades and turn them into a consistent winner is EXACTLY what we need, because we have been a mid to low-tier team in the SEC for my entire lifetime.

by bball1984 on Nov 28, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

But he hasnt consistantly won games. He has 2 winning seasons at Baylor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Briles

You cannot compare his record to Leach’s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leach_(coach)

His worst season in 10 years was a 7 win season. His teams were invited to 10 straight bowl games. He won 2 more games in 4 less seasons than his predessor.

by Areyouready?nonotreally on Nov 28, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Baylor is the Vanderbilt of the Big XII

Getting them to go bowling is a feat in itself. Doing it twice in two years? That’s uncanny.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 28, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/database/texastech_database.htm

Baylor has been to 17 bowl games since 1948.
Vandy has been to 4 bowl games since 1948.

I am just saying taking any team to 10 straight bowl games should be a coach at the top of our list.

by Areyouready?nonotreally on Nov 28, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We are comparing Texas Tech to Baylor here too.

TX Tech is no football powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, but they are clearly a step up above Baylor.

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by Wild Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Here is my take on Briles

Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Here is Baylor’s 8 seasons before Briles arrived.
2000: 2-9
2001: 3-8
2002: 3-9
2003: 3-9
2004: 3-8
2005: 5-6
2006: 4-8
2007: 3-9

Here are the 4 seasons with Briles
2008: 4-8
2009: 4-8
2010: 7-6 First bowl game since 1994
2011: 7-3 with wins over TCU and OU

He did the same thing at Houston.
6 seasons before Briles
1997: 3-8
1998: 3-8
1999: 7-4
2000: 3-8
2001: 0-11
2002: 5-7
The 5 years with Briles
2003: 7-6
2004: 3-8
2005: 6-6
2006: 10-4 CUSA Champs
2007: 8-5

He did this at 2 programs that had no support for the football progam what so ever.

When Leach took over at TT in 2000 they had a string of 5 straight wining seasons and the last losing season was in 1992. Leach took over a stable program and made it slightly better. Briles has taken over 2 losing programs and made them winners. That is what I want.

by NOPD1024 on Nov 28, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Briles Is A Great Fit

Not sure if we can get him though. Baylor may have locked him up after the Oklahoma game.

Having someone like RGIII around Ole Miss could be a heck of a lot of fun though…

by muttinthehut on Nov 28, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

When my eyes stopped bleeding from the eggbowl

I switched over to watch Baylor crush TTU. Their offense, even without RGIII, was Leach-esk.

The last Rankin Rebel

by Reb on the Rez on Nov 28, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting that you bring up Brunetti's quote

I read that article yesterday and had the same thought. How bad is it when you have players admitting that discipline is a huge problem? Off the top of my head, I really can’t think of another time when a college athlete talked about needing more discipline in an athletic program. Maybe needing better coaching, better players, or a whole host of other things, but not someone openly admitting that discipline was an issue.

Hopefully whoever we bring in can develop some discipline among our players. I still think that there is a decent amount of talent (albeit young) among our roster for the next guy to work with. We need depth and we need an influx of talent in spots, but after watching the Egg Bowl I didn’t see a huge talent gap between us and State. I saw a huge coaching, effort, and execution gap, but not a huge talent gap.

by bball1984 on Nov 28, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Agree

The last two years of football product were defined by increasing levels of player apathy as the seasons wore on.

I can’t believe that its difficult to motivate 18-22 y.o. guys whose whole life revolves around football. Yet Nutt managed to convince ole miss players to maintain increasing levels of notgiveashit two years running. While this season’s “crapping the bed” was enhanced by Nutt’s sacking, Nutt’s ability to crush the hopes of our talent cannot be understated.

Perhaps there is something to be said for having personnel who can be led. During Nutt’s first two years, there were stars. While NFLers does not an ole miss team make, maybe our next coach should look for more coachable prospects for longterm growth and stability.

Houston Nutt coahes for BRAINS!!!

by Old HWY 6 on Nov 28, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

for this:

Nutt’s ability to crush the hopes of our talent cannot be understated.

A Football Program is a Terrible Thing to Waste.

by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

This is unrelated, but I figured the cuppers would like this.

Here is a quote from someone on my Facebook feed.

Just throwing this out there for all of you Bama fans, if your one of those who keeps whining and complaining about wanting a rematch with the best of the best, the one and only LSU, your only making it harder on yourselves because if its a second loss you want, its a second loss you’ll get. (And next time try not to blame it on your kicker, you were in our red zone 7 times and didn’t have one single touchdown to show for it.) GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!

Goddamn Southern Miss students.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

i can respect one hell of a winning machine that is LSU this year....

but i cannot tolerate that grammar.

your=/=you’re
its=/=it’s

and for good measure,
dawgs=/=dogs

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by Sideline Snead on Nov 28, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just laughing

because a kid who has never lived in Louisiana, grew up a State fan and goes to Southern Miss wrote this.

And yeah, he’s a fucking idiot.

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf

by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Although I like the sentiment

I don’t think we need help like that. We’ve got our own grammar-challenged contingent.

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by artiger on Nov 28, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It's just a whole thing here in Mississippi,

Southern fans respond to not being in the SEC by co-opting LSU as the school they actually cheer for.

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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't have many southern miss friends,

but of the ones i know, some are LSU fans. it just dawned on me.

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by Sideline Snead on Nov 28, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I always found it odd too.

When I was there a lot were LSU or State fans. In fact I’d say the most HATED programs among the Southern fans were Ole Miss and Alabama. I was somewhat of an anomaly (I was happy I had an alternative team NOT in the SEC, so no major conflict).

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by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Nov 28, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

True for a lot of Southern Miss students/alum

I too have a Facebook “friend” who likes to post pictures every Saturday of Trent Richardson, Big Al, or any other Bama paraphernalia she can find on the internet. She actually has an undergraduate and graduate degree from Southern Miss. I got annoyed and asked her when she became such a big Bama fan (I’ve known her since high school and never remember seeing her in any University of Alabama garb) to which she replyed “since forever. hey how bout dem webels lol” to which I replied “do you know your alma mater team cracked the top 25 and is the best Mississippi team in the country?”. She never responded.

I will say this, I do have a friend that is a Southern Miss grad and most definitely an actual fan. He has always supported them and rightfully so, they are the best team in the great State of Mississippi this year. There are some REAL alums/fans out there.

Let’s be honest though, most C-USA students and alum are not a fan of their actual school. I was baffled when I first moved to Birmingham and saw an advert in Five Points for UAB’s “Show Your Team Sprit” day during homecoming week where people wore their favorite team’s colors. The advertisement had people wearing Alabama and Auburn gear. Case in point.

by Marty McReb on Nov 28, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't tell you how many Memphis grads I know who are fans of Ole Miss or Tennessee during most of the year.

Except, of course, basketball season.

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by Wild Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It's definitely not a unique problem.

University of South Florida and University of Central Florida have almost 110,000 students between them – and I guarantee the majority of the football fan students identify with UF, FSU, and Miami more than UCF or USF.

by Crootin' on Nov 28, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I live by UNCC

Its the same there too.

Most are Tar Heels or Dukies with a smatering of Clemson.

I’m seeing less of their colors since the Niners downgraded to the A-10. I’m wondering how much support this new Div III football team is going to have in 2013?

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by SkylarkThibedeau on Nov 28, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're D-II

it’s one thing. But to be a 9-2 CUSA squad and still having to cheer for LSU is fuckin’ weak. Same goes for USF. You’re in a BCS conference for Chrissakes.

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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Now thats just funny.

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by Catfish Powe-boy on Nov 28, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

Recently I was cycling the Long Leaf Trail, (the south end trail head is at wait, wait, Southern MS), and was given a major in Physical Fitness, and a minor in Mammal Studies (because I had spotted a deer on the trail.)

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by SloansQB4HC on Nov 28, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, they can't even spell "Go"

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by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

And now...

Neuheisel (sp?) is out at UCLA. Another competitor… Please make an announcement, today!

by stampman4390 on Nov 28, 2011 1:51 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

If I recall correctly

both Neuheisel and Erickson were on our list of hopefuls after the Big O was let go. Both fired today. I wonder if Boone has already used the Batphone to grovel over them. If I recall correctly once more, neither of these wanted to come here then. Correct me if I am mistaken. And, I am certainly not proposing that we talk to them now. Just interesting.

by Loxley Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Boone and Khayat supposedly went out west to hire Erickson....

…but came back with Orgeron. I don’t know if Boone still wanted Erickson when he shitcanned O.

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by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification...

..and now another question. Nutt, Erickson, Neuheisel all “proven” coaches once who tried again and failed. Does this not help the case for a successful lower div. coach with a burning desire to prove himself? As someone mentioned above, Saban, MIles, Meyer all coached at smaller schools before taking the leap. Is Leach good enough to overcome the second chance failure syndrome? I have no idea.

And, after this weekend, please don’t mention the Auburn offensive coordinator anymore.

by Loxley Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it helps to make that case

I for one think getting a coach who is coming off successful run is a big plus. The new boss has to fix the atmosphere in the locker room first and foremost, and I think getting a coach with consistent, recent success is a one way to do that. Where that success was found is less important than the having it.

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by Old HWY 6 on Nov 28, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The man is an idiot

Dan Shithead Mullen thinks everybody in the state is complete redneck idiots and just don’t know any better. Hell the man thinks if he shows up at a high school game in a helicopter, that the potential recruit will sign with state. He has done that twice. The man is an arrogant ass.

by rk9762 on Nov 28, 2011 3:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

"is complete redneck idiots "

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by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Everybody

is a collective noun. It’d be used the same as the word “public”

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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You are correct as far as you go...

but you don’t go far enough. The correct usage would be “everybody in the state is a complete redneck idiot…”

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by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

My eagerness overwhelmed

my veracity. I cede the field to you, good sire.

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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

aw shucks.

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by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Crootin-copter

Are there adventures of crootin mullen doing battle with crootin nutt over high school stadiums?

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by Old HWY 6 on Nov 28, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

new head coach of Ole Miss

This dude better know how to make an offense and defense crush the other team. this season made me ill but, I made through it.#hatestate.#imarebel4ever. I hate cowbells; stink ville is the third level of h#l@. Make Dan Mullet shut up next yrs egg bowl PLEASE!. I hate that guy too.

by Laura Hallstrom on Nov 28, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

I agree.

Dan Mullet should shut up next year’s Egg Bowl. It’s been so goshdarn loud lately!

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by MattSaracen on Nov 28, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Matt's got a point.

Mock Mullen all you want, but calling him “Mullet” just comes of as Jr. High. Please refrain.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 28, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he started it first.

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by Wild Rebel on Nov 28, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i prefer stink ville to the dan .mullet

it’s funny because at first glance it looks like starkville.. but then you realize it’s STINK VILLE. IT’S WITTY GUYS.

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by Sideline Snead on Nov 28, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

for us country delta rebs,

we prefer stankville, home of Cow Pie High.

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by SloansQB4HC on Nov 29, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Penn State Coaching Search: Dan Mullen

This interesting piece on Black Shoe Diaries. As well-researched as the article is, the comments were even more entertaining.

Also interesting is the rareified view they (still) have of themselves, comments like this: “He’ll (Mullen will) have better personnel recruiting in the Northeast…” Right.

I joined Black Shoe Diaries so that I could put in a plug for Mullen, assure them he could run something other than a spread, that he recruited great talent, would not embarrass them with #hailstate gimmicks (but the end zone template from Starkville would work without modification in Happy Valley). Unfortunately, I learned that while my “membership” has been “accepted” I must still wait three fucking days before I am allowed to post on their hallowed site. No thanks.

That kind of insular thinking must be the key to PSU’s recent success.

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by sutpens100 on Nov 28, 2011 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

Three days wait

most likely due to a huge increase in traffic and membership requests so people can post their online rebuke of penn state amid the sandusky fallout

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by charlym on Nov 28, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

What's Sandusky?

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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 28, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

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by charlym on Nov 28, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't ever get Sanduskied

Keep your Soap on a Rope.

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by SkylarkThibedeau on Nov 28, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i personally hope mullen goes nowhere

because i hope ole miss gets to beat his brains in one day and i want to see it

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by charlym on Nov 28, 2011 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Mullen to Florida

When Muschamp gets zooked.

He’ll be ‘The Savior’ like Meyer.

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by SkylarkThibedeau on Nov 28, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Won't ever happen.

Ever.

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by hottytoddy07 on Nov 28, 2011 7:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No it won't

because he got turned down for the job last year. He definitely wont get it after this season.

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by Jalakin on Nov 29, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

A note on the Mutts:

Being the Statehater that I am, I actually had a measure of respect for Croom. Having said that, I’m 100% convinced that the Mullet has been dining off of Croom’s recruits the past three years. The 6-6 record this year signaled a downturn to me, and the fact that we schooled them last year in recruiting backs that up. If we can get a coach that will rally in some recruits for us this year, I think that we’ve lost our last game to #HATESTATE for a few years…..

by Mark K on Nov 28, 2011 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

I love when they say Ole Piss...

it’s hard not to respond, “Do you really not realize that one could just as easily say Pississippi State?” I have a lovely aunt that lives in East Mississippi (what a shit-hole, right?) and she always calls it “Oxfart.” I’ve found that just a blank stare with no acknowledgement towards their insult makes them realize just how fucking lame it is.

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by Mexter Dccluster on Nov 29, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a (not so lovely) uncle that lives in East Mississippi.

At Christmas, I (almost) annually hear: “What bowl game are yall going to this year, oh yeah, the Egg Bowl. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.”

by Crootin' on Nov 29, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

my fav is Ole Piss to the Toilet Bowl.

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by Sideline Snead on Nov 29, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Recommended.

I’ve been lazy in enforcing that rule (yeah, it’s a rule around here), but SSMUND’s totally right.

I’m all for trash talk, but calling them the “Misstake Bullfrauds” led by “Dan Mullethead” who reside in “Stinkpatch, Mississippi” is, frankly, a little childish.

Call them what they are: assholes.

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