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Generally, we are the "authors" of "content" around here - "here" being a blog and not a message board. Recognize, we do, that you've come here not to contribute, but to consume. Nevertheless, there is the sporadic occasion where, either for our benefit or for to exercise the thinkifiers of the masses, we ask you a question. Today's question is . . .

Does it bother you when Michael Oher, Mike Wallace, et al don't name Ole Miss in MNF or SNF introductions?

Michael Oher recently proclaimed that he was "Michael Oher, North Memphis" on Sunday Night Football. This, coupled with Mike Wallace's decision to say he's "Mike Wallace, O. Perry Walker" and Benjarvus' decision to say something else that isn't Ole Miss has, has caused a stir for some of our fans. Some fans see it as a slap in the face to the school that got them to the NFL. Others see it as no more than an homage to their roots.

What do you think?

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Is it important to you that Ole Miss alumni mention the school during their player introductions on MNF and SNF?
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No
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BJGE

was listed as an Indiana grad last I saw…and yeah it bothers me some. It would be nice to hear Ole Miss without being followed by the words “controversy” or “blows” once in a while.

by WrigleyvilleReb on Oct 4, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to see it but it doesn't bother me.

Seems like it’s less important now than it was when that started.

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by Thile on Oct 4, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Can anyone speak to why this is so en vogue for UM alums?

Oher basically dispelled rumors I’ve heard with his response on twitter regarding wanting to impart hope in those Memphians he feels need it. (I’m paraphrasing, of course.)

While I would love to hear our players say Ole Miss, his reason was good enough for me. To my knowledge, he is the only one that has given a reason for not saying “Ole Miss.”

by Hunter C. on Oct 4, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm willing to bet that

North Memphis wouldn’t be so desparate for hope if Ole Miss was in contention for a National Championship. Or at least a Top 10 spot.

by 6" inseam on Oct 4, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts on this are:

Despite the up and down (mostly down) status of our program the last several years, we have a lot of starters out there and at least one of them plays on Sunday or Monday night seemingly every week.

Everytime a former player says he came from “Ole Miss” or “The University of Mississippi”, it’s free publicity in a national, primtime broadcast to a very targeted audience.

So, when they decide to say “North Memphis”, “University of South Panola” or “Como Steakhouse Wait Staff”, it’s a missed marketing opportunity for the University and the football program.

Having said that, I don’t get upset or jump to silly conclusions whenever they decide to say their high school or whatever. I do wish they would stick to the school, though.

by ssmund on Oct 4, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Is it "important" to me that they say "Ole Miss?"

I would choose a different word to use, but I would certainly prefer it. I do find it odd that almost all of our former players do this.

by Rebels7 on Oct 4, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I spoke with some friends about this

over a few beers last week. We never came to finite conclusion but I think it would really be a positive thing for the Ole Miss graduates who are absolutely dominating in the NFL to say, “Hey, I came from Ole Miss, you should check it out. We had fun and even though we didn’t win a lot of games a few of the seasons, I still got the be a BAMF in the NFL.”

Since almost all of them do that, it makes me wonder about the relationships between players and Athletic Department staff.

I want to watch a sport where the guys who yell, "Come on you klutz catch with your hands," try to defend themselves against SEC linebackers with only the Rebel O-Line because they suck.

by CurtisWilkiesBeard on Oct 4, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep, it bothers me a bit

Timely question as a buddy of mine just asked me why Oher does not represent his college in the intros. Seems to me that our Athletic Department would want to reach out to our former players and express how important it is they represent there school. Seems to me, that Patrick Willis, Dexter, and Eli have been great advocates of the school.

by RebelYell11 on Oct 4, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

It shouldnt bother me, but it does.

I like hearing OLE MISS. But i know it doesnt have the same street cred as saying DA U or George Washington Carver Elementary Fightin’ Peanuts.

I would like to hear some Ole Miss pride though.

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by ThemRebsIsHellDontThey on Oct 4, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Pride

is the key word. Our players don’t play with any.
As for our former players, if they are too embarrassed to say “Ole Miss”, screw ’em.

by YousaytomatoIsayvodka on Oct 5, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't care less.

Until Dexter says anything besides “Ole Miss.”. Then, I’ll be absolutely devastated.

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by Ivory Tower on Oct 4, 2011 5:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

AMEN!

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by Role Player on Oct 4, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree

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by Sideline Snead on Oct 5, 2011 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not a big deal

Not Such a Big Deal
Unless the TV Networks
Start doing it too.

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by SkylarkThibedeau on Oct 4, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm just throwing out an idea here...

So don’t shoot me, but do any of you think it could have anything to do with the major amount of negative media on Ole Miss the last 7 years or so since a certain mascot thrust the University into the national spotlight?

by astaylo1 on Oct 4, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Honestly, no

I think it is just the thing to do right now. If you’ll notice, a lot of non-Ole Miss players give there HS or home town rather than university. If you didn’t play at the U (more like a fraternity than football team at a university), you’re pretty much going to say whatever comes to you. I think our biggest issue is winning. I truly believe that winning a few more games will cure what ails our program (and university in general right now).

by bball1984 on Oct 4, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if it bothers you you need to grow up

Would I like if everyone said “Ole Miss” every time – of course.

Do I think it’s tacky if people say something else or think they owe anything to Ole Miss – hell no.

by DuNing on Oct 4, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't really like it, but

I am not mad at the players about it. They don’t owe the University their endorsement. It more is just embarrassing that all of those players dont have a desire to endorse their university. Speaks more of Ole Miss than the players in my opinion. And yes, I do think that it hurts the football program for our NFL players to avoid the university in the only public way that they have to endorse it. For Mike Wallace, Michael Oher, BJGE, Eli Manning, Patrick Willis, Peria Jerry et al to say Ole Miss gets people thinking “wow, Ole Miss produces some pretty damn good players.”

by DexterMcclusterslaboratory on Oct 4, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Tradeoffs

While I think it is a bit annoying and childish that they don’t claim Ole Miss, it may, in some instances, work to our advantage. For example, I probably wouldn’t hire someone from Ole Miss if I realized that they had earned a degree doing the same amount of work as Powe.

On the other hand, it would not hurt our recruiting if high school athletes were constantly seeing Ole Miss mentioned in NFL pre-games.

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by goulajamz on Oct 4, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

It's important to everyone else

I’m pretty sure players from Bama, LSU, Florida, or hell even Kentucky say their schools on their players profiles. The same reason why some people “don’t care” is the exact reason the players won’t say Ole Miss. It’s because we don’t demand it.

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by Reb on the Rez on Oct 4, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe our next Athletic Director

Might reach out to these guys and let them know we’re proud of them, and want to do what it takes to re-establish their connection to the Ole Miss family. Maybe Boone is doing that already, but somehow I doubt it.

Because yeah, it bothers me, too.

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by RobRob9 on Oct 4, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

they should say it.

Wasnt that last year Oher pulled that N Memphis BS. If everybody on the team says their college, they should too. Maybe one time give a shot out to your homies, but not all the time. Guess they didnt like Ole Miss as much as I did. Like some others said, makes you wonder what kind of relationship our school keeps up with them.

by colonel on Oct 4, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

All I have to say...

is that they wouldn’t be where they’re at now without this university. It would be nice to show some appreciation to your alma mater. Also if you truly want to give back to your university how about claiming them once in a while. Just by our former, and now NFL, players stating they went to Ole Miss, would do a wonder for recruiting in my opinion.

by TheJB12 on Oct 5, 2011 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I think there is too much being made of this.

I’d love to hear them say Ole Miss, but frankly, it’s their decision. If I had grown up in inner city New Orleans or North Memphis, I’d probably claim my high school or where I’m from. I don’t think Mike Wallace, Michael Oher, Patrick Willis and others owe it to Ole Miss to say where they went to college. It’s disingenuous to say that they don’t have pride or owe Ole Miss something (I don’t think college football players owe their university anything other than effort while they’re playing)…they’re just giving shout outs to their family and childhood friends. Hell, I would probably say my hometown if I were in the NFL.

Also, I really don’t know how much it impacts recruiting. If a kid can be swayed by the fact that Ole Miss has put a good number of players in the league, they are already aware of Oher, Wallace, McCluster, Jerry, Willis etc.

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by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 5, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me just a little bit

I’m not going to get up in arms about it though, there is so much else to be worried about.

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by ARebel21 on Oct 5, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why don't they?

The Ole Miss fan base absolutely LOVES these players. I mean hell, I have little nephews and cousins that tell me that Michael Oher, PWillie, and Dex are their heroes. How could they alienate us in such a way as to make us bring doubt about their loyalties? If not your loyalties to the university, at least say it for the loyalties of the fans that love you. Do it for the kids… and my pride.
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by Reb on the Rez on Oct 5, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

And O. Perry Walker and New Orleans loves Mike Wallace...

I don’t doubt their loyalty for a moment. The intro is really just a chance for players to give shout outs to whomever they choose. While Ole Miss did plenty for them, the Rebels in the Pros did a lot more to bring Ole Miss to the national scene (if only for two years) than any intro on MNF will ever bring. I don’t feel that they owe Ole Miss anything. Just being in the league looks good for Ole Miss. I mean, Mike Wallace didn’t claim Ole Miss, but I guaran-damn-tee you that when Nutt was recruiting Moncrief, Brassell and Singleton that he said “You ever heard of Mike Wallace?” I highly doubt that they responded with “Well, he doesn’t claim Ole Miss on his intro for MNF.”

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by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 5, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

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by Reb on the Rez on Oct 5, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think if we had a solid team year in and year out

They would have no problem saying Ole Miss. Other players who played in smaller schools, have pride because they played in a smaller setting, and probably had it made. Ole Miss has been consistently sub par for awhile now. If Ole Miss had the record of Alabama or even a school like Oregon, they would not have any problem saying Ole Miss. It’s all about wins and perception.

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by Duece's accoutant on Oct 5, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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