My love/hate (currently HATE) relationship with the Arkansas Razorbacks
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 16, 2011 8:24 PM EDT
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Half of my family is from the state of Arkansas...my mother was born and raised in Arkansas, as were her parents, and their parents, and their parents, ad infinitum. My grandfather, "Papa" to all of us, owned his own hardware and appliance store for many years. In 1977 he had a heart attack. As a result, he and my grandmother decided it was time for him to retire, and rather than live so far away from their only child and grandchildren, they moved to Oxford. Now, Papa was a huge Razorbacks fan, but since his daughter and son-in-law had gone to Ole Miss, and his granddaughters were being raised as Rebel fans, he cheered for the Rebels, too. I remember Saturday afternoons as a child, sitting on Papa's lap or playing in the middle of the living room as he listened to an Arkansas football game on the radio while watching the game on TV. Sometimes he'd have the Hogs on the radio and the Rebs on TV, or vice versa depending on the schedule. I remember cheering for the Hogs because Papa did; a simple act of a granddaughter loving what her grandfather loved. Yes, I even had my own plastic Hog Hat, and knew "Woo Pig, Sooie!" as early as I knew "Hotty Toddy!" This was all well and good...after all, Arkansas was in the old Southwest Conference, and Ole Miss was in the SEC. Sure they met, but it wasn't like a conference championship was on the line or anything. We usually supported Ole Miss in the head-to-head anyway (Papa was wrapped around us girls' fingers). So I was perfectly happy supporting both teams.
Papa died in 1990, just four days before Christmas. It was a miserable day; the hill where he was buried at Oxford Memorial Cemetery was frozen solid, covered with ice as freezing rain fell. Relatives that would have otherwise come for the service didn't dare risk the drive. Christmas was very sad that year. To make things worse, it was my senior year of high school. He would never get to see me graduate, or take pictures of me in my prom dress, or go to my last spring musical. I had the chance to say I love you the day before he died and I didn't take it because it was the last day of Fall semester and I was a teenager in a hurry...my greatest regret to this day is not taking those few seconds to run up and hug him (it's why I never say goodbye, end a phone call or send a text without an "I love you" to this day).
The next year, Arkansas joined the Southeastern Conference, and the conference split into divisions, with Arkansas joining the West. Now, Ole Miss would be playing the Hogs every year, geographically we would be the Hogs' closest rivals, and it would count so much more. I wondered what Papa would have done. Mom swears up and down that he would never root against his daughter's or granddaughters' alma mater. So I did what I always did; supported Arkansas and Ole Miss in every game except the head-to-head, when I would be all-in for the Rebels. And if Ole Miss couldn't go to Atlanta, the Hogs would be my second pick (yes, when I got a degree from Alabama this created further conflict...then I got a job at State...seriously, could I NOT get a degree/job in the SEC East?).
Then we hired Houston Nutt, and the Arkansas fans went APE. FUCKING. SHIT. To be fair, they were ape shit before the hire, too, but still. I have never seen such absolute, insane hatred in a fandom in my life. Seriously, these fans were bitter. Keep in mind I live near Starkville, where they invented the inferiority complex. I went to school in Tuscaloosa and have seen the hate for Tennessee and Auburn. I was an AMERICAN IDOL fan for God's sake and those fans? Bat. Shit. Crazy. But all of those fandoms have nothing on Arkansas fans. GonzoHog was just representative of many. So-called "friends" of mine from Arkansas? Hope every week for an Ole Miss loss to justify their firing of Nutt. The worst ones are the ones who used to cheer for Ole Miss, who actually got degrees from here, but will NOT cheer for them again until Nutt is gone. And they can't wait to tell you every second how stupid we were to hire him and someday we'll see the "truth" and regret ever supporting him.
And the worst part? The absolute worst? Is that they were right. And we are going to have to deal with all of those smug-ass Arkansas fans who know, who just know we'll be done with him by the end of the season. Who know we have "buyer's remorse." Who know we are practically hoping we lose every last game this year so we can get rid of him. And you know what they are secretly thinking? What they are really saying behind every "Woo Pig," every "some tailgate you got here," every "good luck," every "have another beer?"
"We told you so."
*rolls eyes, huffs, screams into pillow*
So, thank you, bat shit crazy obsessive Arkansas fans. Thank you for being such awful, terrible people. For sullying my childhood memories, my memories of sitting on Papa's lap wearing my hog hat and yelling "woo pig sooie" in my childish little lisp, feeling safe and loved in his arms. Thanks for ruining that. Thanks for making my hate so strong that I'm fucking crying* now, dammit.
*Which is totally cool since I'm a girl.
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I totally understand your perspective, but you are incapable of understanding ours...
Cool story about your grandfather, so I hate it that this affects you on another level. But our hatred for Nutt is strictly business. He deserves what’s coming to him.
Just think about how much you guys are bitching over Nutt after JUST 3 1/2 FREAKING SEASONS. Now, imagine that your administration continues to ignore you and proceeds to give Nutt raises and extensions for the next 6 1/2 years as he ingratiates himself further into the Ole Miss Good Ole Boy Network.
Just imagine how you would feel in 2017, still watching the same old shit, knowing that he should have been fired in 2011. Just imagine what it would be like to have the aspirations for more, but knowing that your charlatan of a coach has the wool pulled over the administration’s eyes and they are giving him millions per year to make excuses instead of coach.
Let that sink in.
That is why we have a vendetta against Nutt. We had to go with the nuclear option (flying banners) to get rid of Nutt. He is like cockroaches.
I just find it comical that you guys are already running full page ads and putting banners on your university buildings after only three seasons. Hell, we were still sitting silently at that point. I have to give you credit: even though you made a horrifically poor choice to hire him, you guys aren’t going to tolerate 10 years of him like we did.
Let me set you straight on a couple of things.
To my knowledge, the full page ads in the paper are directed solely at A.D. Pete Boone and have not made any mention of Nutt. That being said, “we” are not running full page ads; a moronic portion of our fan base is. That portion of our fan base also wants to reinstate a mascot we banned back in 2003, and they currently boo a dude in a black bear suit when he runs onto the field.
We (as in the majority of the people that comment on this blog) realize that the portion of the fan base doing these things is childish and idiotic, and they make us look bad. If you want to take credit for flying banners, filing Freedom of Information Act requests, and other dipshittery conducted by people with too much time on their hands, then feel free. However, please don’t lump all of us in with those of our fan base that don’t know how to do things with class and dignity.
Also, Nutt took you to 6 consecutive bowl games in his first 6 years. Considering the fact that Danny Ford’s tenure in Arkansas ended with two 4-7 seasons, you have to admit that Nutt earned at least the majority of his tenure in Arkansas. If we were going to a fourth straight bowl game this year, we would be ecstatic. The situation Arkansas fans dealt with and the situation Ole Miss fans are dealing with are not one in the same. I’ll agree with you that the situations have several glaring similarities, but they aren’t exactly alike.
Queen HHT-
Sorry about possibly starting a crappy argument under your thoughtful and well written post. It’s always good to see Ole Miss fans having passion/emotion regarding their fan-hood, even when the program is in such a shitty position. Hopefully, after this season, we can hire someone that doesn’t result in another SEC West fan base to constantly scream, “HAHA YOU’RE SO STUPID AND YOU’RE GONNA REALIZE HOW RIGHT I AM A FEW YEARS FROM NOW!!!!!111.” For now, I guess we can just look forward to a weekend in Oxford with great food/drink, great people, and a football game somewhere in there.
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 17, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Well, that's convenient...
You have an organized group running full page ads, but they are just a “moronic minority”. We have one guy who filed a FOI and a handful of guys who flew a banner and that is somehow attributed to our entire fan base.
The banner was discussed on message boards beforehand and I was embarrassed by it, but it was Year 10 of the Nutt regime with no end in sight, so I give those guys a pass for affecting change. Our administration was ignoring everything else, so it was probably going to require something drastic to get their attention (kinda like a full page ad, for instance).
The FOI came completely out of the blue. One guy did that on his own. He never intended to uncover a possible affair and most of us couldn’t care less about that story – it was just a good laugh. What he DID uncover was that Teresa Prewett had conversations with the Nutts within minutes of sending her infamous threatening email to our 18 year old quarterback (Prewett, of course, is now an Ole Miss fan who posts pro-Nutt monologues on Ole Miss message boards).
The FOI would have never become public knowledge – even among Razorback fans – if it hadn’t actually found something noteworthy.
As for the difference between your situation and ours, Nutt has not had a Matt Jones fall into his lap the last two seasons. If he had, you guys would at least be going to the Music City Bowl or something. Matt Jones, Peyton Hillis, Darren McFadden….these guys would have come to Arkansas even if I was the coach. It’s kind of a blessing that you guys don’t have some players like that because it would just result in Nutt being able to prolong his reign of incompetence there.
There is significant wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst the Ole Miss faithful,
but it hasn’t gotten to Fayetteville circa 2007 levels just yet. Yet.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 17, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I definitely agree...
But you are only 3 1/2 years in. And admittedly, Nutt has not yet pulled the stunts that he did at Arkansas to remain in power.
Don't put words in my mouth.
I said a “portion” of our fan base, not a minority. The word portion does not imply minority. You, on the other hand, say in your above post, " We had to go with the nuclear option (flying banners) to get rid of Nutt." Like I said earlier, if you want to take credit for that stuff then go ahead, but I can guarantee you that I will never look back on the full page ads against our Athletic Director and think that they actually helped the situation we are in currently.
I want you to legitimately answer a few questions for me: Has it ever occured to you that y’all could have hired a worse coach then Houston Nutt? What if you would have hired a coach that didn’t even make it to a bowl game and lost every SEC game in the third third year of his tenure? Do you honestly think y’all would have been better off with three mediocre coaches in ten years than a decade with a bat-shit crazy (sometimes in a good way, often in a bad way) coach that got you to Atlanta three times? I’m not saying that was your alternative to a decade with Nutt. I’m just saying that there were worse coaches out there you could’ve hired. None of us on this blog liked Ed Orgeron’s three years in Oxford, but I think we realize it could have been worse (if his recruiting skills were as bad as his coaching skills, we would possibly/probably be in our 8th consecutive losing season right now).
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 17, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with that.
I loved Nutt for a couple years. Then I kinda supported him for another 4-5 years because I wasn’t sure whether we could do any better. Down deep, I knew that he needed to go, but I hated to see him fired and watch us bungle another hire.
After losing 70-17 to USC and then watching the 2005 loss to Vandy, the coaching atrocities that happened in those games just slapped me in the face. My hatred for him didn’t happen until later when his sleazy nature really started to shine through.
FYI: He took us to Atlanta twice. Ford took us once.
Nutt was a good hire in 1998. But he just needed to be sent packing after his “rah-rah” wore off. If that happened, we wouldn’t feel any ill will towards him. But that isn’t what happened and he pulled every sleazy trick in the book to hang onto power for 10 years.
I apologize for the error.
I wasn’t sure if it was two or three times. I understand getting tired of the “rah-rah” stuff (becaue I know I am), but I just can’t understand some of the intensity shown by some of your fans toward hating Houston Nutt and anybody he comes into contact with. I’m not specifically pointing this at you, but I’m just saying there should probably be an entirely new field of psychology opened up to examine some of your school’s fans’ remaining infatuation with expressing disgust and disdain towards Nutt after he has been gone for almost four years.
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 17, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the hatred has evolved into amusement in the last couple of years.
Like I say, I didn’t hate the man – even after I decided he needed to be fired. It wasn’t until later when I saw him frantically throwing people under the bus, deflecting any and all blame, spending more time on spin control than coaching, and allowing certain players and coaches to be persecuted that I started to hate him. And he had a lot of important friends in the athletic department that kept him in power and controlled the media (the Arkansas sports media are UA lap dogs).
I went from defending him to saying nothing, then finally to saying “okay, this idiot has got to go”. After flirting with a different school each year and subsequently duping Broyles into giving him the infamous “2 year free pass” to suck and not be fired, he then started in with all of the shenanigans to hold onto power. That’s when the extreme elements of our fan base set out to remove him at all costs.
It was an ugly episode, but we got lucky and landed Petrino, so I can laugh about it now.
For what its worth
a few things to think about:
If you didn’t care, you sure are trying hard, with a lot of words, to convince us of how little you care, in the middle of a work day.
Also, if Nutt hadn’t lasted every single day that he did, y’all wouldn’t have gotten Petrino. Moreover, Nutt showed the potential that Arkansas’ program has and made it a desirable job for Petrino’s scumbag ass to step in.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 17, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hear Hear! Rec'd.
Right on time (just like Gandalf).
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 17, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
True, like I say, we got lucky.
Call him a scumbag all you like; I love the fact that our team is always prepared.
And yes, I do care about the Nutt situation. It’s entertainment for me. I love to see him trying to weasel his way out of blame. It’s hilarious and satisfying.
Right
When you say
It’s entertainment for me…that further validates my point. That y’all are still obsessed with Nutt because the Razorback fanbase is insane.
You know what I do to irritate Duke fans? I go on their boards and tell them that Cutcliffe wasn’t a very good coach who would keep their program at a mediocre level and wouldn’t recruit especially well.
Oh wait, no I don’t, because I don’t give a shit about Cutcliffe despite him leaving a dearth of talent for the next coach.
Ask yourself: “Why am I so satisfied that Houston Nutt is trying to weasel his way out of blame?”
The answer is that you’re still seething with unjustifiable disdain for him; so much so, that you’re satisfied when he fails. You know who finds joy in others’ pain? Resentful people.
You come across more like a scorned lover, giddy that his ex just divorced his second wife, instead of a fan who doesn’t like his ex-coach.
/basicpsychology’d
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by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 17, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm no longer going to tell you that Nutt is a bad coach...
I’ll let you decide that.
Why did you guys get all bent out of shape every time you were playing Auburn & Tuberville? Why would he matter to you? He was at Auburn, afterall.
Because he lied
I wouldn’t have given a shit about Tuberville from the day he left Oxford except that he said he was happy to be there and would only leave if he was carried out in a pine box.
You want to leave us? Fine. But don’t lie about it. And have some balls about telling your own fucking players you’re leaving instead of letting them find out on ESPN the next morning.
That’s also why most people think Petrino’s a scumbag – because he left his team in the middle of a game by leaving a memo. That’s about as mature as breaking up with someone by text message.
Tuberville lied.
That’s really it. Sure, there would always be some people who didn’t like him just for going to Auburn, but the majority of the dislike came solely because he lied. I’ve heard a lot of people basically agree that Tuberville left because the administration wouldn’t back him (not entirely ironically enough, led by Pete Boone then too, but that’s a whole different discussion). I think Ole Miss fans would rather have had Tuberville than Cutcliffe as head coach if it came down to it (those who actually wanted to see championships did anyway). And that’s the big difference between Arkansas and Ole Miss here. Arkansas fans claim you wanted Nutt gone—but you’re pissed at him for leaving? How does that make any sense? This is the kind of thing that causes us to make fun of Arkansas fans.
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I'll be the third person to chime in: he lied.
Furthermore, we wanted him to stay. You wanted Nutt gone from Arkansas and got exactly that. The two situations aren’t as analogous as you may think.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 18, 2011 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Since other have established that Tubby lied,
I just want to chime in and say you’re an idiot. Fuck off.
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by bowtierebel on Oct 18, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally bogus. Your hatred for Nutt is not strictly business; it is VERY personal.
That’s something which is crystal clear to everyone on the outside looking in.
We are going to fire him/nudge him to “resign” and be done with him. We’re not going to FOIA his telephone records. We’re not going to accost him to his face during a practice. We’re not going to concern ourselves with the goings on within his family or his extramarital affairs. We’re not going to take it too personally when he says something smug or condescending. We’re not going to convince ourselves of blatant lies (“Mitch Mustain is a good quarterback”) to support our position.
We’re just gonna give him his walking papers and move on, like one would do in any business relationship turned sour.
You all act like recently-divorced 40-somethings. We’re acting (more) like a boss angered at his employee’s sudden turn for the worse performance-wise. Once the fiscal year is up, so is his contract, so to speak.
Perhaps you’re right though. Perhaps this is what a decade of watching football like this can do to somebody. I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, only knowing that I will never have to go through such an experience.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 17, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Hasn't Ole Miss basically gone through about 5 decades of football like that or worse now?
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With all due respect...
I’m a boss and I do not take out full page ads to draw attention to my employees’ poor performance.
I attended every single home game of the 10 year Nutt Era. Even when the crowds were dwindling a bit, I was there and I never booed – and the vast majority of the Razorback fans are exactly like me. We never FOI’ed anyone or flew a banner or accosted Nutt after practice.
But I was outraged at his antics on his way out the door: his childish resentment and persecution of Mustain, Malzahn, etc., his excuse making and power plays to maintain a grip on his job, and then the fact that we had to pay him millions when he “resigned”. I went from saying “he is a good man who is not a good coach” to realizing he is NOT a good man and he will throw anyone under the bus to keep his job.
From the outside looking in, it looked like you guys were insane to fire Cutcliffe. The dude had five winning seasons and then gets canned after one 4-7 season. So I know you won’t let Nutt screw around much longer. ;)
Have you ever fired one of your employees?
And if you have, did you follow that person to their next place of employment and talk shit on them constantly? Did you talk to their new employers about how big of a mistake they made? Did you hide-and-watch for them to make a mistake and then jump out and giddily exclaim, “I told you so!”? Because that’s what you’re doing now, and that’s what your ilk is entertained by. You’re like high school girls that text their old boyfriend to tel them that their new girlfriend is fat.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
by bowtierebel on Oct 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate Houston Nutt...
…because he hurt a lot of people in his time at Arkansas and virtually ripped our program in half with a little help from his friends.
You will not “fire him/nudge him to "resign" and be done with him.” He doesn’t work that way. If history is any indication, he will still be your coach in 2012. Pete Boone may be gone, but the cockroach will still be alive. Ole Miss doesn’t have enough history of winning for me to care one way or the other about you except for one week a year, but I do somewhat pity you.
Have fun with it and come tell me your thoughts on Nutt a year from now. In the mean time, I will enjoy being consistently ranked as one of the best teams in the country.
Oh an he has not “won everywhere he’s been.” He had a losing record at Boise State.
"I will enjoy being consistently ranked as one of the best teams in the country."
Bobby Petrino is 1-2 against a “cockroach”.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 18, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It only took you two tries. Way to get back on that horse.
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 18, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
One win, two losses to a cockroach.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 18, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Woo Hoo! Kilgorll learned how to post a fancy graph!
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 18, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you see a trend in Arkansas’ winning percentage as the players Nutt recruited and coached leave the program? How about a trend in Ole Miss’ winning percentage as Nutt’s recruits and coaching infiltrates the program?
I thought so. Have some more koolaid. Here’s the (apparently) required jpeg:
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I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 18, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
HDN
Do you see a trend in Arkansas’ winning percentage as the players Nutt recruited and coached leave the program? How about a trend in Ole Miss’ winning percentage as Nutt’s recruits and coaching infiltrates the program?
I’m not going to defend Nutt’s coaching ability, but I will point out that he has done a better job at recruiting than your coach.
Recruiting Class Ranks and % of Games Won (from Rivals and CSTV):
-—-HDN to Ark.———
1998: Miss. (N/A)(58.3%); Ark. (N/A)(75.0%)
1999: Miss. (N/A)(66.6%); Ark. (N/A)(66.6%)
2000: Miss. (N-R)(58.3%); Ark. (#28)(50.0%)
2001: Miss. (N-R)(63.6%); Ark. (#19)(58.3%)
2002: Miss. (#33)(53.8%); Ark. (#25)(64.2%)
2003: Miss. (#38)(76.9%); Ark. (#29)(69.2%)
2004: Miss. (#30)(36.3%); Ark. (#22)(45.4%)
2005: Miss. (#30)(37.5%); Ark. (#24)(36.3%)
2006: Miss. (#16)(33.3%); Ark. (#27)(71.4%)
2007: Miss. (#27)(25.0%); Ark. (#31)(61.5%)
-—-HDN to Miss.———
2008: Miss. (#29)(69.2%); Ark. (#36)(41.6%)
2009: Miss. (#18)(69.2%); Ark. (#16)(61.5%)
2010: Miss. (#18)(33.3%); Ark. (#49)(76.9%)
2011: Miss. (#19)(N/A); Ark. (#24)(N/A)
Nutt out-recruited Ole Miss during his tenure at Arkansas, and now he is out-recruiting Arkansas. If Ole Miss is the bar you measure yourself against (which it seems to be because you’ve made about 2,321 posts on an Ole Miss message board), then you would have been better off with Nutt.
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One thing that excites me is the youth we have on this team.
Lots of freshmen and sophomores getting lots of time on both sides of the ball. It should leave whoever replaces Nutt with some great players to work with.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 19, 2011 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Jesus, you suck at trolling. I can use google images as well.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 18, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow...and I thought I hated y'all before. Now I REALLY hate Arkansas.
Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions
Be careful how you judge Arkansas fans...
I enjoyed your blog, as I am a Razorback with similar feelings regarding Ole Miss, which I once liked very much, but now … uh … do not. I’m sad to say, that I believe that you have earned the agony that you are only beginning to feel.
I find it interesting that, after three years of being wrong about Nutt, you now understand that we were right about him all along — yet you cling to this crap about us being extreme and obsessive? When Nutt is still at Ole Miss two years from now, which he may well be, you will begin to understand that you are dead wrong about that too…
Every Ole Miss fan seems certain that Nutt will be fired at the end of the season. And that may be correct. But, before you call us extremists, you should ask yourself, “What if?” What if, instead of firing Nutt, your AD starts claiming that only 5% of Ole Miss fans are unhappy? What if Nutt lands the top recruit in the country, then starts a hate campaign against him because he heard the kid once called him a dork? What if Ole Miss keeps him another 6 years and tells them that they will NEVER fire him because, although he is worthless, there is no way Ole Miss could ever hire a top coach? What if Nutt starts bashing Mississippi to try to make himself look better? I SERIOUSLY doubt that the Rebels would take it as calmly as Arkansas fans did. Mississippians are still obsessed over the “War of Northern Aggression.” Houston Nutt smeared and slandered our beloved institution and state. We will NEVER forget.
I can’t wait to see what Ole Miss fans do after Nutt has been there THREE TIMES as long as he has been there as of now. Be careful how you judge us Ole Miss…
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's of no use.
With the exception of Ghost, it’s like a verbal slap fight with a retard. Just talk shit, remind them of how terrible they are at football, and move on. Let them think they can just get rid of Houston Nutt easily. They don’t understand how he weasels his way into the good graces of those with power and/or retains pictures of them banging local news anchors for use as leverage. When he’s still their coach next year, the schadenfreude will be delicious.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously.
I mean, if Houston Nutt sucks so bad (and yes, he does) and destroys teams then Arkansas should be HAPPY we’re stuck with him. We’re probably a guaranteed win for them each season, so yeah, “why they mad?”
At least, that would be my logic if I was an outsider looking in.
Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 20, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why I've only replied with memery
They don’t warrant a serious argument because they don’t even know what they themselves are arguing. If I tried to engage one of them in discourse, here is how it would go:
Kilgorll: l"Houston Nutt sucks!"
Mexter: “And?”
Kilgorll: “Say that Houston Nutt is the worst head coach ever!”
Mexter: “I mean, he’s certainly not the best. But he did put your program in the SEC championship, set it up for Bobby Petrino to take over and won back to back Cotton Bowls at Ole Miss”
Kilgorll: “But he’s a douche and y’all are stuck with them. Haha, Ole Miss sucks and we’ve had two winning seasons back to back!”
Mexter: “Yeah, our suckitude at football doesn’t bother me that much, nor is it a fact that has escaped my attention.”
Kilgorll: “I don’t hate Houston Nutt or Ole Miss, I’m just posting here irrationally. Ole Miss and Houston Nutt suck!”
Mexter: “Okay.”
Kilgorl: “Don’t you wish you had listened to us!?”
Mexter: “Not especially. He’s still won more games than Orgeron, so it was a good move at the time.” (Proceeds to explain attrition in recruiting, refers him to my first article about all the players in the 2008/2009 classes that left)
Kilgorll: “Houston Nutt sucks! But I’m not obsessed with him. But y’all are idiots for hiring Houston Nutt! Why won’t you argue facts with me!?”
Mexter: “Because Arkansas fans won’t listen to reason and are obviously obsessed with Nutt. That’s why the comments on this post are mostly comprised of trolls.”
Kilgorll: “No we’re not. We think it’s funny. Houston Nutt sucks!”
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep...that would pretty much bore me shitless.
Memes are at least funny and appeal to the visually literate.
Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 20, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me be clear.
I hate Houston Nutt as a person because he created a rift in our program that is just now healing. That and he is in fact a horrible person.
I don’t particularly hate Ole Miss, but will talk the shit during hate week.
I wish you would fire him because I don’t want to have to see his sorry ass in my stadium next year.
Your attitude in 2008 that “we stole a great one away from you” and “haha, you are stuck with Petrino” is what draws us like flies back here to rub your nose in the fact that you absolutely suck at football. I hope my compatriots will engage in a hearty round of “HOUSTON NUTT, HOUSTON NUTT, HOUSTON NUTT” after we beat the dog crap out of you.
Not that there will be many of you left in that tiny stadium to hear it.
So,
your point is that you hate Houston Nutt?
I’ll sit back while you try to figure out how you didn’t make my point, nearly verbatim, for me.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well let's see...
Let me break it into simple pieces for you.
In your straw man argument above, you said that I would reply “I don’t hate Houston Nutt.” I replied that yes, yes I do hate the man.
I explained to Queen that despite the fact that he makes you an easy win, I wish you would fire him because I am tired of seeing his smarmy face.
I then pointed out that you brought all the Arkansas “trolls” on yourself for being douche bags in 2008 about hiring Nutt.
Then I talked a little bit of shit to you during Hate Week.
So your point is that you hate Houston Nutt
because you’re still bent out of shape about something that happened in 2008? Well, that’s much more rational. I guess I have to retract my argument that Arkansas is comprised of unreasonable, obsessive trolls who have nothing to live for themselves…
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what? I think I understand a little now.
He’s like the ex-wife or ex-girlfriend that you still have to see at weddings or funerals because the whore went and married your first cousin after y’all broke up. Is that close to it?
Do realize though that with all our luck, even if he left coaching he’d just become an analyst at ESPN and we’d have to face his mug on Gameday or something, swapping bon mots with Dr. Lou.
Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 20, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And...
Yes, if he had taken the Baylor job instead of a division rival, I imagine my hatred would have waned over the years. I suspect that once you disentangle yourselves from the Nutt/Sexton tarbaby, the healing will begin and Arkansas fans won’t bombard RCR quite as heavily.
Dear God,
Please don’t put that asshat on ESPN every Saturday.
Hating a coach as a person is stupid.
It just is.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 20, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Prior to this thread, I had two posts on RCR and none on any other Ole Miss-centric site. So stuff that line of attack up your ass. Petrino recruits players that fit his system. Right now I’d take our D-Line, CBs, safeties, WRs, TEs, and without a doubt QBs over yours. Let’s see how they actually match up on the field this week rather than some mythical ranking.
Do you not understand the reply button?
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 19, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
obvious idiot is obvious.
dumas only replies to memes, with memes. mexter is such a simpleton that he is completely oblivous to the substantial, intelligent, and credible rebuttals littered throughout this section; his only goal in life is to find a ZOMG google image response, because of course, those not bright enough to type the King’s English, can only relate with pictures and drawings. but, that’s to be expected when there is no hope in sight for this weekend’s game. it’s obvious they will get owned/raped. so many of their fans are preemptively trying to save embarrassment by being over-the-top online badasses. saturday it will be so funny to have more fans in the stands than them, in their own stadium. another “LoL Miss” fail.
Run-on sentences are not your friend, especially when you're critiquing someone's intellectual capacity.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 19, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
do you know what a run-on sentence is?
i think i must have confused your simple mind with those things i inserted, called punctuation marks.
learn about them, get a clue, escape retardation. i have faith in you.
sort of.
Your use of punctuation wasn't all that great.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 19, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
care to elaborate on your brilliant observation?
don’t worry, judging by your post history, i’m not expecting much from you.
:)
#keepbitingthosenails
My post history?
You’ve read the roughly million words I’ve written here?
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 19, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you shouldn't have dropped out of the 4th grade
And then you’d know how capitalization works and where commas are needed. Go suck shit through a tube.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
And yet you don't know where the shift key is?
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
lol is that all you have?
i know literature and reading are not strongpoints of your institution. but when someone stylizes their writing with all lower case, it’s intentional.
even though you have nothing to contribute in the way of football discussion, i just wanted to remind you of something.
..wait for it…
mississippi state is BETTER than you!!! HAHAHAHAH
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!
You're correct.
Literature and reading are not “strongpoints” at our institution. I must say I’m quite jealous of Arkansas in that regard. To have had heralded authors such as Willie Morris, Barry Hannah and William Faulkner roaming your university’s halls (which I’m sure you attended, right?) is truly a great honor reserved only for the greatest institutions of higher learning.
Moreover, that nationally acclaimed bookstore y’all have, Square Books, trumps anything we have.
Also, since when did a lack of capitalization become “stylizing”? Do you send out inter-departmental memos to the other janitorial staff in Comic-Sans?
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 19, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
coup
thank you for acknowledging your inferiority. you’ll find that once you get past denial, it becomes easier to accept your position.
and yes, i did attend the University of Arkansas. you will find my name twice in the senior walk, for undergraduate as well as graduate.
the funniest thing about your response, which still has me smiling from ear to ear; you completely ignored my statement about you guys being worse than mississippi state. we all know how to interpret your silence on that topic. guess you might as well buy yourself a cowbell, huh?
now, sip on your hotty toddy, re-read my post, and try desperately to find something you can respond to. and what is “square books,” lol?
"thank you for acknowledging your inferiority"
This guy doesn’t even understand sarcasm.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 19, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Square Books is a bookstore in Oxford.
“lol” is an acronym that is popular among assorted sub-classifications of morons, dumbasses, C.H.U.D.s, and others who don’t worry about things like “credibility.” The intent is to signal that they find something humorous.
I like
that after I sarcastically say that I wish Ole Miss had people like Faulkner, Morris and Hannah, Owned responds with “Yeah, I bet you do.”
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 19, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a Nobel Laureate in Literature as a part of our al---
you know what, never mind. You’re too fucking dense to get how dumb you’re making yourself look. You’re literally too stupid to see how stupid you are.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 19, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
While what you are saying about OwnedMiss seems to be true...
…your football program is still pretty shitty. When did this turn into a literary blog?
Woooooooooo Pig Sooooie! Enjoy the echos of this, the most recognizable chant in college football, throughout your tiny stadium this weekend.
"Your football prgram is still pretty shitty."
You say this as if you think it bothers us.
And we’ve always taken pride in our institution beyond the football program. Mainly because, ya know, we actually went to college at Ole Miss whereas you only leave West Memphis when you’re transporting meth across state lines.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
This is the SEC...
…where football is king. At least you have basketball, baseball, and track. Wait. No you don’t.
HATE. HATE. HATE. Bitches.
I would say football is king as well
if the only other thing I had to look forward to was loading up on crank and trolling message boards.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Kentucky has basketball, Vandy has scholars, and MSU owns you.
What exactly does Ole Miss bring to the SEC? With the addition of Texas A&M, we can solve the uneven division problem by just ousting Ole Miss.
Go for it.
It won’t work.
With all due respect, you’re starting to become boring.
In what exactly does Mississippi State own us?
They could win the Egg Bowl 10 times in a row and I’d still think them beneath us. That’s just how shit works.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 20, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
their 2-4 (0-4) record owns our 2-4 (0-3) record.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta love Wikipedia...
stolen from that knowledge depot
In football… Ole Miss leads the series 60–41–6.
In basketball, MSU leads the series 138–1056 and has won 16 of the last 20 and 20 of the last 25.
In baseball… Mississippi State now leads the series 231–196–5 (239–195–5 according to MSU records)… Since 1978, Ole Miss is 52–90 against MSU.
So you have them in football and that’s it. The fact remains that you’ve never beaten Dan Mullen. Matter of fact you haven’t been close. You got a couple of garbage time touchdowns last year to pull within 8.
I thought football was king.
And that you had an excellent memory.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You still don't get it.
Our love for Ole Miss and disdain of State both go way, way beyond athletics.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 21, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
"i know literature and reading are not strongpoints of your institution"
I…um, what…I can’t even…(jaw hangs open)
Really? I can’t even take this one seriously. He HAS to be trolling because…well take what we know about Ole Miss and look at what he said. Just…fuck it, I’m going to lunch.
Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 20, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Feel free to bring your family this weekend, kilgorll. Mexter might include y'all in his new book:
I always say 'beer me.' It gets a laugh, like, a quarter of the time.
by BeerMeAHottyToddy on Oct 19, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make the trip...
…to your quaint little stadium this year. I’ll have to enjoy the beat down of your rebellious bears from afar this year. I do hope that you’ll be able to take it in in person though. I predict that you’re back out in the Grove before the 4th quarter begins.
Wooooo Pig Soooie! Get used to that. You will hear it early and often Saturday.
Stadium smack?
Really?
Go back to Hogville.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 20, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
We'd prefer you went back to the Arkansas page where you came from...
Oh, you’ve only commented on RedCup. You must be a real fan. We’re sorry that our hate week has taken you away from fellating bearded men for phramaceuticals comprised of cough syrup and battery acid. No one hear has debated your self-serving claims that we’re bad at football. Stop the fucking presses.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
Go ahead.
You act as if we’re all hyping this team up. We’re not. We know we’re going to lose. You’re preaching to the choir.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 21, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions
At first I was surprised by all this trolling
… all this ridiculous Houston Nutt obsession. I wondered, “Why do they care so much?”
Then I remembered that this is the same fanbase that called in a bomb threat and shot the horse of their head basketball coach.
I don’t recall a bomb threat, but I do recall that one of Richardson’s horses got shot. It could have been just some dumb kid with a gun who had no idea that it was Richardson’s. Or it could have been a pissed off racist Arkansas fan. We don’t know, but I don’t think either of us wants to compare past racial relations in our states. They are both horrible.
I said nothing of racism
You did. I didn’t even think about Richardson’s race – probably because a) it’s 2011 and b) I’m not a racist. I don’t consider a person’s color when I think or speak of them. If you’re hung up on the fact that the man is black then that’s your problem, not mine.
I said fanbase that’s unhealthily obsessed with their former coaches. The bullet was from a high-powered hunting rifle and it missed the horse’s heart by less than an inch. I don’t think that was an accident.
Also, see the fancy reply button? All the cool kids are using them these days.
Hmmm...
Nolan Richardson claimed at the time that the shooting was racially motivated.
I apologize for assuming that you knew wtf you were talking about.
It was lumped in with a statement about him not being allowed to play on certain golf courses
He said there were courses he wasn’t allowed to play on because he was black. If race was the motivation for shooting the man’s horse then that’s not any better than someone doing it because you guys are obsessed with your coaching staff.
I’m saying it was your batshit nuts fans who did it because I don’t think race had anything to do with it. Then again, I may be giving people too much credit to think that in this day and age people don’t do crazy shit based on race. I keep forgetting that just because it isn’t an issue with me that doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue with other people.
Kudos on figuring out the reply button though. You’re learning.
Sounds like we are on the same page. We still have no idea what the motivations behind the act were.
Right.
The only thing we know for sure is that Arkansas fans are crazy enough to threaten a coach with bombs and shoot his horse.
Unless you’re trying to argue that this was actually a random shooting because some guy with a rifle wanted to shoot someone’s horse. Right…
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Red herring on racism.
Regardless of Nolan’s accusations, the fact remains that his horse was shot, bomb threats called in etc. that would not have happened anywhere else. Trying to bring up the sordid racial history of MS and Arkansas is bullshit and you know it. You’re reaching awfully hard to show how Arkansas fans aren’t insane.
Do you think Richardson’s horse would have been shot if he was coaching at UCA? Cognitive dissonance: look it up.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay… Your evidence about the motivations of the person who shot his horse is what?
Also, please provide a link to an article about this supposed bomb scare. I don’t recall that and I have an excellent memory.
Straw man argument. You don’t need to look it up because it compromises 90% of your replies. Obviously you know the meaning.
Here's is a quote from Richardson, per the AP
“I’ve been here 16 years. The first year here, my daughter was dying of leukemia and I had a bomb threat at my house,” Richardson said. “Last year, somebody cut the manes on my horses. Somebody shot one of my horses with a high-powered rifle Monday morning. … I feel like a cat with nine lives.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/01/sports/main275679.shtml
You don’t have anymore evidence concerning the shooters’ motivations than I do. Even if they were tinged with racism, the shooting would not have happened if Richardson wasn’t the head coach at Arkansas. The point is that, regardless of intent, your fans are fucking insane. As far as your memory, I can only refer you to research “cognitive dissonance”.
“You keep using that word, ‘Straw-man’. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
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by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, that phone call regarding the bomb supposedly occurred in 1985 and I was 6 years old. Pardon me for not remembering. I posit that that threat (if it happened) was because we had hired a black man as our head coach. That doesn’t make it right, but those were the times. What would have happened at Ole Miss in 1985 if a black head basketball coach had been hired? More than a phone call?
You're making a shit ton of assumptions.
Slow the fuck down. We don’t care what the motives were behind these acts. All we’re saying is that Arkansas fans have a history of treating their coaches like shit.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 20, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What we have is a history of beating the shit out of Ole Miss on the football field. If anything our failure has been keeping coaches around too long. Our coaches in all sports tend to be longer tenured than average. See Houston Nutt, Nolan Richardson, Dave Van Horn, John McDonald, Eddie Sutton, etc.
Y'all have us by 4 wins.
Three of those were Houston Nutt skullfucking Ed Orgeron.
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by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 20, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
As far as programs go historically, Ole Miss and Arkansas are neck-and-neck.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 21, 2011 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
And we still get good ones.
Doesn’t it burn you up a little bit to constantly play second fiddle to a fanbase that sends its own coaches death threats? You guys are the Vandy of the West, except you usually lose to Vandy.
Vandy is the Ole Miss of the east, I guess.
We're not playing second fiddle with you.
We wouldn’t even step on stage with you. We’re a goddamn solo act.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 25, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Why are you talking about race?
It has nothing to do with Catfish Row’s original point – that members of your fanbase tend to overreact when it comes to your coaching staff. It is irrelevant whether the people who overreact are motivated by racism, ignorance, mental illness, or general dumbassery.
Out of undeserved hospitality, I’ll respond to your question. If Ole Miss had hired a black head coach in 1985, there would very likely have been some dumbass racists who wouldn’t have liked the decision. I’d have to speculate as to whether anyone would have threatened to blow him up or shot his livestock, but so far – that hasn’t happened here. That’s not to say that Mississippi’s history regarding race relations is any better than Arkansas’s. Every fanbase has its lunatic fringe.
We did, however, hire a black head coach a mere 7 years after that.
Rob Evans was hired as the head basketball coach in 1992 and, to the best of my knowledge, there were no incidents upon his hiring. I’m sure there were some of the “good old boys” who probably grumbled about it but I never heard anything negative about him. He did a lot of good things for our program and people liked him when I was in school. We were sorry to see him go when he took the head coaching position at New Mexico. Then again, nobody bothered harassing the man when he decided to leave either because we don’t really give a shit about our coaches after they leave Oxford.
Rob Evans seemed like a good man. He kept our basketball team from completely imploding when he was an assistant during Pelphrey’s time here.
He's a great guy. I would love for Ole Miss to have kept him.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 21, 2011 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
“So, thank you, bat shit crazy obsessive Arkansas fans. Thank you for being such awful, terrible people. For sullying my childhood memories, my memories of sitting on Papa’s lap wearing my hog hat and yelling “woo pig sooie” in my childish little lisp, feeling safe and loved in his arms. Thanks for ruining that. Thanks for making my hate so strong that I’m fucking crying* now, dammit."
This is the weepiest fan base I’ve ever seen. Go get some therapy. Jesus Christ…
Hating other team's fans
I’ve had enough of our Ole Miss blogs being negative and hateful to other schools and their fans. This is all so ridiculous and mindless. Not only do we need to get rid of our football coach and Athletic Director – both of whom are a laughing-stock of other SEC schools, but our fans on our blogs are resorting to mean-spirited remarks and cuts about other teams’ fans. This doesn’t accomplish anything positive. Alabama and LSU blogs talk about BCS ratings and where they hope they might end up in the national championship picture, while our most popular blog is about hating Arkansas and their fans, complete with pictures of people from Arkansas, making them appear stupid and uneducated. The truth is, they are just like Mississippians in social standing, income, and education. We are posting very little that’s really positive about our team, our state, or our beloved program in general. My friends from Alabama get a kick out of the arguments between the Tranitional Rebels vs the Forward Rebels, agruing over a mascot and a fight song. It’s 2011, for God’s sake! It pains me that we are becomming irrelevant sports-wise, and that many of our fans continue to make us look irrelevant as a fanbase. Let’s grow up! I know all the other teams do post negative remarks, but do we have to continue to bring ourselves down to their level? I hope we can look better than this!
"This is all so ridiculous and mindless."
So are sports in general. So how is an unhealthy obsession with huge men running into each other any more admirable than needling people on the internet?
My point is that being concerned with firing coaches and athletic directors isn’t any more reasonable that having a bit of fun on the webz. Personally, I enjoy hate week and the posts because they’re funny. If other schools did one for Ole Miss, I would read it and laugh at what they wrote. It’s in good fun.
I think you’d have more success asking for civility on a youtube comments section under a video about Barack Obama.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
In answer to the question in your first paragraph, I think it is MUCH more admirable to follow a team that you can get behind with other fans and alumni (and post your hopes for their future and discuss their upcoming games, etc.) than it is to be rude and needle other fans and their teams on the Internet. Again, negative, negative, negative. I realize it’s a free country, so post what you feel you need to post. I’d rather be upbeat. In my opinion, even when we’re going through a season like this one, we can still have class and make Ole Miss look good.
Meh.
"A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."-Gandalf
by Mexter Dccluster on Oct 23, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He's right, Mexter.
We should just discuss facts and figures and our hopes and dreams about our standing in the BCS. Or we can use this blog to do those things while having a good time joking around and making light of situations that aren’t otherwise enjoyable. This blog is here for sports news, discussion and entertainment. We use it as such. I don’t know why this Hate Week drew so much attention relative to others, but people need to grow up.
And rebel joe, it’s sports. Stop being such a pussy.
"There's no better way to say 'I'm a badass' than the thumbs up. It's so hot right now."
Hell, I'm just glad this week's over.
The Arkansas fans can move on to the next opponent and hating whatever team Nutt coaches after us, Ole Miss can move on to focusing on Auburn next week, and I can move on to detoxing (I am NOT touching rum drinks for a while…that’s the last time I get drunk before noon).
Dude, I like Katy Perry and watch "Glee." I’m pretty much a lost fucking cause.
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 23, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No Arkansas fan can ever harangue us about being rude or harrassing people anonymously.
Ever.
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