Masoli Denied, UM Appeals, NCAA Assholes
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Really, NCAA?
Why don’t you just throw out the rulebook and grant yourselves emergency powers? Or was that already done and I missed it?
I have brought peace and security to the galaxy.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].
Gooooood... goood.. embrace your anger...
/nerd
"Go then, there are other worlds than these"-The Gunslinger
I came here to see Palpatine and that quote.
So, thanks for not disappointing. Sorry about the royal screwing, y’all.
In the world of Star Wars
I’m afraid Ole Miss is the gungans. Or the storm trooper who hits his head on the damn door.
by OxfordAndrew on Aug 31, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The Gungans and said storm trooper were incompetent though. If anything we are the proud people of Alderaan who were destroyed by the Death Star to prove a point. Yeah. I went there.
There's a darkness on the edge of town.
No, face it, we are the Ewoks.
Perhaps we were once a great civilization. But with empire and power at our doorsteps, we are, likely, only a few steps from destruction. At best we can be supporting characters, mere accessories to some greater heroes’ fight against the Sith and their lust for power.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].
by Ivory Tower on Aug 31, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the partying.
Those Ewoks threw a hell of a party. Yep, that’s us.
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Aug 31, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope to Xenu they try to say his transfer isnt related to "academics"...
bcuz you cant tell me that Greg Paulus transferred to Syracuse to further his education (although i hear its a fine school).
by ThemRebsIsHellDontThey on Aug 31, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened?
Did Oregon start up a Parks and Rec master’s program last minute?
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Aug 31, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Just when it was beginning to look like Ole Miss may move from 6th in the West to 5th.
Oh well, back to 6th.
How does it feel to know...
That even without having a QB that gets denied eligibility, both of them still suck?
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
Dunno yet
Why don’t you tell us about it, yellow slacks? Both of your qbs are pretty fucking terrible.
by victory drive on Aug 31, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
david and camojack
I do belive it was a dis to LSU. Sorry to say but they do suck worse than us even if we put our kicker in as QB. Better luck next year kitties.
by Stephen Martin on Aug 31, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ole Miss fans are so cute when they're angry.
It’s almost like you expected to win more than one SEC game this year.
Don't be an assclown.
This bullshit started because you came in here and pulled some typical, TigerDroppings/OMSpirit style “dumb, shot-from-the-hip internet smack talk.” We’re not keen on that around here because, principally, it’s lame.
We get it, you think you’re all great because you’re LSU and all, yadda yadda, rivalry and stuff, et cetera, but we Rebels have really gotta focus on hating the NCAA right now. You’re just being a distraction.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 1, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You're correct.
It was poor form. I apologize.
Continue with your NCAA hate focus. I’ll shut up now.
Besides, you kicked our asses in everything last year as the poster below pointed out.
Here's the deal.
I’m way nicer to LSU on here than I should be. I give LSU a pass on most things because I have far more LSU friends than I do, say, Alabama or Arkansas fans. I enjoy my LSU friends. I enjoy my visits to Louisiana.
So I return the favor by avoiding the trite, “LSUx ha ha ha lol” bullshit. Most of your fans deserve a solid slap in the face, but I like y’all a little too much for that.
/badrebel’d
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Not me...and I have LSU friend.
They can go to hell.
"HOT BOUDIN! COOOOOLD COUS COUS, COME ON TIGAHS, PUSH PUSH PUSH!"
I seem to remember
LSU getting swept in all major sports by Ole Miss last year and then proceeding to lose their bowl game. I thought that was pretty cute. So piss off. This is NCAA rage time.
I play for keeps.
A shitty day at work, and then this?
Why is it ALWAYS us that the NCAA decides to fuck with? Bunch of double-standard promoting, wool-in-sheep’s-clothing hypocrites.
If you are guessing that I am making a B-line to the bar, then you just won 100 Cup dollars.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Because...
…we are so fuckable! I learned that years ago when I was your age.
Bleh…
Remember in November.
that's what she said
(sorry – RBR joke – couldn’t resist – carry on)
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
i think it's from some tv show
and a bunch of our posters have made it a mainstay.
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Going to set a record for the number of times "fuck" appears in a comment thread, I think.
Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.
Oh. Hi. I’m the NCAA. Fuck da webelz lawl.
Seriously. This is re-goddamn-diculous.
by 7thYearJunior on Aug 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well fuck me.
Fuck those fucking fuckers.
Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.
NCAA goes to its token bullshit
“oh look it’s all about academics and student athletes”
So, it’s b/c Masoli is good at football right? Or is he just not smart enough to pursue a graduate degree?
How can the NCAA determine a person’s motives for transfer? Will they make their investigations into the matter public? Nope, b/c they made their decision when the fucktards at ESPN spoke out against this transfer. This is a PR stunt for the NCAA to seem like they are upholding the values of student athletes. It’s a bunch of fucking horseshit.
I hope Masoli sues the shit out of them for discriminating against his physical ability to play the game well.
Maybe it’s b/c he’s not a downtrodden, poor athlete story. He’s from a middle class white/Hawaiian family, so he’ll just go sell insurance or something, right NCAA? It’s not like he’s got nothing to fall back on like some poor, uneducated lot that is usually shuffled on through this loophole.
If I predict it, there's an 50 percent chance it happens.
by One Man To Beat on Aug 31, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
When related to Ole Miss
the NCAA doesn’t even care about the down-trodden athlete stories. They just want to fuck us. Fucking horseshit.
My question is this:
Is his denial unprecedented? If the NCAA has done this to someone else and some other school I feel better about it. I’m still upset that we have to go through this trouble but we wouldn’t be the first and as such we wouldn’t be the last. If it is new, I’d like to go to where ever the HQ for the NCAA is and burn the mother fucker to the ground.
by 7thYearJunior on Aug 31, 2010 5:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Doesn't matter if we are the first or not
We are Ole Miss therefore we will get fucked over…. Coincidentally the Doyle Jackson incident was on CSS today. Fuck Bama.
by hottytoddy07 on Aug 31, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It is entirely unprecedented.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 31, 2010 5:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you
That means the immense anger I’m feeling is totally justified.
by 7thYearJunior on Aug 31, 2010 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The NCAA doesn't give 2 shits about precedent
I sometimes wonder what goes through these people’s heads
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by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand the anger, Ghost.
But, the entire point of the waiver is that not all situations are the same. Does the simple fact that all other waivers (which each dealt with unique circumstances) were approved mean that all waivers should be approved in perpetuity?
Ask yourself this: If Masoli hadn’t been kicked off the team at Oregon (and simply remained suspended for the 2010 season), would he be at OM? If the answer is “no”, then it’s going to very difficult to sell the notion that Masoli’s transfer is “academically motivated”.
Yeah but can you say that Greg Paulus' transfer was "academically motivated"?
I highly doubt it, and he was allowed to transfer from Duke to Syracuse and granted the waiver. So basically the NCAA is sending a solid Fuck you our way.
I thought Greg Paulus left Duke voluntarily...
I don’t know the intimate details of the Paulus situation (because they weren’t publically broadcasted), but he has a vastly better argument than Masoli, namely because Masoli only tried to transfer after he was kicked off the team at Oregon (and not before, when he was just suspended for the entire 2010 season).
That is quite true that Paulus was voluntary
But another point on Masoli is that he was suspeded from football before he had completed his degree. Now would he have stayed provided he did not get kicked of the team, I believe he would have. But he got kicked off the team, and was looking for a way to go about pursuing a career in something he seems to truly like doing (football). In order to do this he needed to transfer to a school that would give him a chance to play. He did this and followed all of the rules as set down by the NCAA. Now they are denying a waiver which they have always granted to players that abide by the stipulated rules, and at an especially inopportune time. This to me stinks to high heaven. The fact that the NCAA is going against their own precedence for this rule opens a whole can of worms for them, especially if Ole Miss chooses to sue. It is discrimination, when someone followed all of the rules to the letter but is still denied. Just my opinion.
I understand your argument,
but such circumstances aren’t at all accounted for by NCAA rules. Is that a “loophole,” sure. But you don’t just say “well fuck you because of OUR loophole.” You say “fuck us, we shouldn’t have this loophole, we’re closing it effective 2011.”
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
This is fucking horseshit.
Do you honestly think previous waivees were seeking transfer due to “academic motivation”? And, I find it hilarious they’re questioning his academic motivation considering the mother fucker graduated early.
This is typical NCAA horseshit. Nothing more. Nothing less.
The purpose of the waiver
The waiver is not automatic. The rule was put in place to give students who graduate from their universities and are in good standing with their teams to transfer to another university and get a graduate degree in a field not offered at their current school. Masoli was a convicted felon who got booted off his team for breaking the law and was looking for a way to keep playing football without having to sit out a year. What I don’t understand is why they made y’all wait until Tuesday before the season is about to start before they stepped in and said no.
by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 31, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
When was he convicted of a felony?
this is news to me, all i saw was misdemeanor marijuana and second degree theft for a laptop. c’mon who hasn’t smoked a little dope and stole SOMETHING in their life?
correction
Masoli’s felony was dropped to a misdemeaner. The point is that being in good standing with your former team seems to be the key to being granted that waiver.
by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 31, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even see how a waiver is needed.
You’re not asking for a rule to be waived. It IS the rule that you can transfer and not sit out a year in this case.
It would be nice if they bylaw blog still existed to clarify that. But my understanding is that the NCAA has to grant that permission to avoid sitting out a year.
by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 31, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like that's what the NCAA is implying here.
But I haven’t ever heard the rule mention anything like that. It sounds like it’s one of the cases of the NCAA deciding it doesn’t like how a rule is being used so they try to change it on the fly.
If that is the case, and a player that had been kicked off a team for breaking the law in the past was able to use this rule to transfer without sitting out a year, then it’s crap that they denied him. But I’ve never heard of that situation coming up before. Again, this all seems very clear cut. Like something they could’ve figured out in 5 minutes rather than waiting till the Tuesday before the season starts.
by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 31, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So the NCAA assumes a player can't learn from his mistakes?
If they really denied him because he got kicked off his team and is trying to take advantage of a second chance that another team was willing to give him after he paid his debt to society, that’s a real crock of shit. Way to serve the student-athlete, NCAA.
Rule doesn't say shit about being in good standing with "their teams".
He has to be in good standing with the university, which he obviously was considering he graduated and all.
I think this is the key to our appeal
not that I would put money on it being successful, but the rule says ’the previous university". I know my opinion means squat, but once Chip Kelly cut ties, he was just a student at Oregon. Any past rule-breaking within the Oregon FB program were moot.
by RebelBarrister on Sep 1, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Why does the NCAA even have a rule book?
They just make them up as they go along. I’d like to say I’m surprised about this but nothing the NCAA pulls out of its ass surprises me anymore. They make some crazy decisions. At least most of them didn’t involve Ole Miss in the past. This one does. I wasn’t crazy about the idea of Masoli coming to Ole Miss but they do need QB depth and if he’s not going to be allowed to play I want it to be for something legitimate.
I don't really have anything to add other than another "fuck."
So… fuck. Of course I’d probably be more angry if I were the least bit surprised.
There's a darkness on the edge of town.
Fuck!
I don’t wanna be a pessimist here, but we could could be in some serious trouble now. Two rookie quarterbacks…Thats the stuff of nightmares
Jesus
That is one hell of an animation. And yes, if this isn’t successfully appealed (it won’t be in all likelihood – WAOM), we may be screwed.
I play for keeps.
I felt it appropriate
Games against Fresno State, Kentucky, etc. are looking a lot different now.
by TheBraveDude on Aug 31, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's absolutely appropriate
Just kinda leapt off the page at me. And you’re right. Fuck all.
I play for keeps.
Here's how this is gonna work in the future.
Coach calls a player into his office. Player knows he’s about to be kicked off the team and before the coach says anything he goes, “I quit!” Then he uses the waiver rule. No one ever gets screwed over by this ruling in the future. Just Masoli and the Rebs, because WAOM.
by allicolls on Aug 31, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Bullshit
I could use this space to present a serious, carefully worded, well thought out challenge to the NCAA’s shocking and unprecedented decision, but I feel the following profanity-laced tirade is more appropriate:
FUCK THE FUCKING NCAA AND THEIR FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL BULLSHIT. FIRST POWE, NOW THIS SHIT. THEY JUST SIT IN THEIR DAMN OFFICES SCHEMING ON HOW THEY CAN FUCK US OVER. JUST MAKING UP FUCKING RULES AS THEY GO ALONG. UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE
ps – thanks for waiting until THE WEEK BEFORE OUR FIRST FUCKING GAME to let us know about this. ’preciate it
by Catfish Powe-boy on Aug 31, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
Rable Rable Rable
I’m with you Powe-boy (best username ever), I think they took a month to find a loophole that they could use to close the loophole we already found. Saying he wasn’t in good standing with the university is bullshit, he’d already graduated.
by Operation_Masoli_Freedom on Aug 31, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
How have I not gotten used to this?
This eternal raping of my hopes and dreams. After my saints won the Superbowl, i thought this is the year. This is the year Ole Miss makes it to the tournament world series another January bowl game. But alas, I was wrong. We were all wrong. We are Ole Miss. Now excuse me while I let off a little steam. FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK. THIS IS HORSE SHIT! FUCK, its worse. THIS is OUR NEW FUCKING MASCOT’S SHIT. BE THAT A HORSE, A BEAR, OR FUCKING MUPPET! IT IS GLITTERY FOAM COVERED CHILD FRIENDLY SHIT. Go to hell LSU. GO TO HELL NCAA!
Has Dan Jones left yet?
Fozzy Bear understands the epic amount of BS.
Has Dan Jones left yet?
by Muddy Waterloo on Aug 31, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
Fuck it. The Ole Miss of my youth is dead, as much so as the Hoka, The Gin, Skateland USA and Fourth of Julys at Avent Park. Just be the University of Mississippi Muppets, disband the football team, and get it over with.
And just when I was getting used to my other team losing their Heisman-winning running back to knee surgery.
Fuck football season and Saturdays in the Grove, I’m watching “Glee,” eating Mugshots burgers and getting too fat for my sundress. And the first State fan who says a GODDAMN WORD to me tomorrow gets a cowbell shoved up their ass sideways.
[/collapsesintears]
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Aug 31, 2010 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
Any truth to the rumor that
Saban had something to do with this?
Long threes and Sam McGuffie will only take you so far.
Forget Saban.
This has Crazy Old Testament God written all over it.
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Aug 31, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They just fucked the shit out of Masoli...
“The NCAA feels that Masoli and Olemiss have attempted to undermind the ‘spirit’ of the rule” Joe Schad – ESPN
Fuck that shit…
That is totally subjective and there is no fact in the rule to support their ruling.
They deny Masoli because “it’s the right thing to do” since he is a petty criminal. Well…The NCAA should be arrested for just committing a rape!
by Geaux To Hell LSU on Aug 31, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
This sums it all up to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNzg5ZreYGY
But add a shit ton more anger!
Maybe this is out of place...
But just thought I’d let y’all know that there are rival fans that think this is complete bullshit. The NCAA is once again pulling rulings out of their collective ass with no regard for, you know, those pesky things like written rules and precedence. It’s ridiculous.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
I've been on a few other sites.
And strangely, Alabama fans seem to be with Ole Miss fans on this one. Maybe the Dareus situation above has something to do with that but Bama fans have been the few supporters Ole Miss gets on this one. You do have other fans who occasionally don’t like that the NCAA basically went against their own rule on this one but it’s pretty mixed otherwise.
nobody has a more intimate knowledge
in all the various ways your program can be fucked by the NCAA than we do.
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I don't know about that.
Ole Miss has seen its fair share of NCAA screw-ups. But the NCAA does seem to have it in for Bama as well.
just to be clear on the point
alabama has very much deserved many of the punishments that have come our way in the past few decades. there’s no denying that. our problem is with the sheer ambiguity in how the organization’s rules are formulated, the lack of clarity in the guidelines themselves and the almost arbitrary manner in which they are enforced. essentially they have created an entire compliance industry that is swallowing university athletics departments in needless red tape and expense but doing jack shit to help the student athletes they reportedly are acting in behalf of.
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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The NCAA doesn't have oversight. It doesn't have audits. It doesn't have
checks and balances. It doesn’t have any of the things which typically make governing bodies or organizations legitimate in the eyes of the governed. It’s draconian. It’s stupid. It’s out to kill us all.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 31, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't disagree either Ole Miss or Alabama didn't deserve some punishment in the past.
But it does seem as if once you’re on the NCAA’s bad side they will hound you to no end.
Don't make it worse than it is :-)
It’s the past 2 decades.
Well said, kleph.
problem is with the sheer ambiguity in how the organization’s rules are formulated, the lack of clarity in the guidelines themselves and the almost arbitrary manner in which they are enforced. essentially they have created an entire compliance industry that is swallowing university athletics departments in needless red tape and expense but doing jack shit to help the student athletes they reportedly are acting in behalf of.
Actually,
the recent Alfy Hill situation has us kind of pissed off about arbitrary NCAA decisions.
The thing is, I could not find one single rule in the NCAA rulebook about graduate students transferring to enter another program, so this entire thing is based solely on precedent, a precedent they seem to be ignoring here.
Note: there is a rule allowing players to get a waiver on the one-year sit rule if their current program is discontinued, but there are no rules about allowing a waiver based on graduate programs. It’s all precedent.
I seem to recall a rule they passed a few years ago about this.
It stated athletes who graduated with eligibility left could transfer to another school for graduate school and immediately play regardless of the level of the school. It was put in place so athletes who already graduated wouldn’t be forced to end their athletic careers if the school they went to didn’t offer a certain program. I can’t swear that’s the case though. I know a lot of coaches didn’t like it because it meant they could lose players for the last year of eligibility.
NCAA = No one Cares About Athletes
“The NCAA established a "students first" waiver process to address unique situations and extenuating circumstances such as this that are not outlined in our rules.
If a student-athlete wants to transfer and immediately compete as a graduate student, the college or university they are transferring to would need to seek a waiver, because in most cases they would have to sit out a year before competing under NCAA transfer rules and would not have any remaining eligibility. One of the factors our members have determined is appropriate for a graduate student waiver is if the transfer is academically motivated."
Ok forgive me if I am misunderstanding things but since when in the BCS era has anyone in the NCAA cared whether a student transferring is based on academic motivation. Oh right.. Just now…how convenient for them.
Repping Ole Miss in 34 countries since 1996
NCAA = Narcissistic Confederation of Arrogant Asshats
This is the most arbitrary and pointed fucking of a school and individual I’ve seen. Rage.
I play for keeps.
by bowtierebel on Aug 31, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
fuck you ncaa
Its bullshit how they assert that his transfer is an attempt to “avoid disciplinary measures at the previous university [Oregon].” In what way is he avoiding disciplinary measures? He got KICKED OFF THE FUCKING TEAM! How does his transfer allow him to avoid that? It would make sense if say, he had merely gotten suspended at Oregon, then attempted to transfer in order to avoid the suspension. In that case he would legitimately be attempting to avoid punishment.
Another interesting point I’ve heard: Remember when Legarett Blount was “suspended for the entire season” by Chip Kelley and ended up playing anyway? Since apparently Chip Kelley’s definition of “full season suspension” is more like “half a season suspension,” I figure Masoli should still be able to play at least a few games this season right? (makes about as much sense as the NCAA’s actual ruling anway)
ps BURN IN HELL NCAA
by Catfish Powe-boy on Aug 31, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
To be fair to the NCAA,
and I can’t believe I said that, when a player is kicked off the team, that usually means they’ll be forced to sit a year, even if they transfer. Had Masoli simply been suspended for the season, he would not be eligible for a transfer waiver. I guess the NCAA is arguing that Masoli shouldn’t be rewarded for doing something bad enough to merit expulsion from the team instead of just a suspension.
No,
but when a player is requesting to be exempted from an NCAA rule (though whether this is a rule or a precedent I’m not sure), it is within the NCAA’s purview to determine whether that player is seeking a waiver based on established precedent or because he is trying to evade a punishment by the previous institution. The important thing here is that the NCAA is not saying he can’t transfer, they’re saying he can’t be granted a waiver of the one-year sit rule. The NCAA has decided that he is not transferring based on the rule, but to avoid punishment. In other words, he’s violating the intent of the rule.
I don’t agree with the rule based on NCAA precedent, but the NCAA’s logic (when looking ONLY at this case) is sound.
Yet, you're looking at the "spirit" of the rule, just like the NCAA
I could just as easily say, the “spirit” ought to be that early graduates, like Masoli, are afforded special privileges. Because of their outstanding academic accomplishments, they can choose to go play somewhere else if the want. That policy would give players incentive to graduate. That sounds reasonable, right?
When you get into the “spirit” you can pretty much always argue a rule four ways to Sunday. Application becomes, by definition, arbitrary.
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by Ivory Tower on Aug 31, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
just be glad
the fuckers didn’t get so excited of this they went and vacated some of your wins
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OH NOES, VACATED WINS!
Vacated wins are the NCAA’s slap to the wrist. On no, you’ll never overtake Michigan in the all time wins category! NOOOOO!!!!
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 31, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
they still suck
particularly when there’s no reason for them to be levied. forfeit the fuckers or let ’em be.
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I keep dreading that the day will come
When the NCAA finds out something went wrong during the Ed Orgeron era. I thought for sure Ole Miss was screwed when the whole Michael Oher investigation went down. They avoided that but the way Orgeron has acted I wouldn’t be surprised if something comes back to bite them. But then again, Ole Miss doesn’t exactly have a lot of wins to vacate from that era so there really isn’t much to lose there. Knowing the NCAA’s history with Ole Miss I wouldn’t be surprised if they looked for some way to take it out on Ole Miss in the present if they do find something.
I agree.
Vacated wins are stupid. Forfeiture is the way to go, NCAA.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 1, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
So in essence
they’re saying Masoli has to be suspended from A team, ANY team, for a year? He’s essentially suspended from the Ole Miss football team?
I already had a headache from crying*, now I have another from brain spasms.
*Okay, I didn’t REALLY cry. Maybe a little teary.
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by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Aug 31, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it doesn't make any sense.
I understand what they’re trying to do and part of me agrees with them, but it just can’t be justified. Nobody said the NCAA wasn’t arbitrary.
I actually agree with the sentiment.
I’m not crazy about how it all happened either. But the fact remains that isn’t how the rule is written unless I’m missing something. You enforce the rules you have, not the rules you want. That sets a dangerous precedent. But then again the NCAA likes to make it up as they go along anyway. So I agree with you here.
That's the thing about this.
The rule obviously needs changed. The right thing for them to do is grant the waiver and then work to have the rule changed in the future. Why single out one player? Why add to all of this controversy? Why hand down a royal fucking to Ole Miss, Nutt and Masoli when it accomplishes absolutely nothing?
The NCAA will be around long after Mr. Masoli is gone. Let the man play and worry about remedying the rule’s problems. Better yet, take that abortion of a rule book you have, burn it and start from scratch.
I was literally reading over the shoulder
of the DM sports reporter typing this up. And the thought ran through my mind more than once that if I put my foot through the computer and stopped him typing, that the sentence about the waiver being denied would go away and all would be fantastic.
Then I went and got Chik-Fil-A, because this calls for some goddamn comfort food.
And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!
It was the most convenient option
Relatively inexpensive, bad for me, and close at hand.
And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!
Never, ever speak of Chick-Fil-A in a negative light.
by ssmund on Aug 31, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't believe I did.
Just pointing out that Oxford presents a smörgåsbord of local comfort food. And, as Betty pointed out, we hit the sauce for comfort as well.
I play for keeps.
I get what you're saying
As someone who no longer lives in Oxford, I plan to take full advantage of the smorgasbord beginning with lunch this Friday and ending with lunch on Monday. But when you actually live in Oxford, Chick-Fil-A has its place.
I live northeast of Nashville
I’m Oxford-sick. I harbor no ill will towards Chick-Fil-A. It’s about 2/3 of what I ate freshman year in the Union. But I’d punt a kitten for a Super Deluxe Cheeseburger from Phillip’s or meatloaf and veggies from Ajax.
Not really. I love kittens.
I play for keeps.
by bowtierebel on Aug 31, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
but would you
punt a puppy?
( I probably would )
And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!
hell id skin one alive for some coop deville right about meow
Repping Ole Miss in 34 countries since 1996
I'm in Nashville, myself.
And let me say there is a serious shortage of Chick-Fil-A’s around here relative to most other southern metros I’ve frequented.
Lord willing and the creek don’t rise, by lunch time this Friday, I’ll be at Boure’, then dinner at 208. On Sunday comes brunch at BBB and dinner at Taylor Grocery. Monday morning, breakfast at the Beacon. Then lunch at either Ajax or Larry’s before heading back to Music City.
Jealous Pants - On
Especially regarding Ajax and Taylor. I’ve never had the pleasure of eating at BBB, and I intend to remedy that sharpish. I can’t complain too much though, I’ll be down in Oxford next Thursday before heading down to New Orleans to feast at Coop’s Place and other fine cajun establishments, before hitting The Dungeon (Metal bar in the quarter. If you come, you’ll recognize me and my friends because we’ll be the ones being stared for wearing polos and oxford cloths. Honestly, check it out. It’s a memorable time).
And we have a Chick-Fil-A in my small corner of Gallatin. +1
I play for keeps.
by bowtierebel on Sep 1, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
THE DUNGEON!
Oh lord I hope One Man to Beat sees this comment.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Take a picture, trick.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 2, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
This is where we should have an RCR gathering after the game
Most brutal victory* party ever.
*Hopeful victory. Don’t want to give the Sports Gods anymore reason to smite us after this vengeful week.
I play for keeps.
Eww
Okolehao started out as a beer and when distillation techniques were introduced by the haoles (English seamen) it was distilled into a high proof spirit.
Im not going near anything that has english seamen in it. tehe
Repping Ole Miss in 34 countries since 1996
Look man...
Clearly the Sports Gods are pissed off. I’m just doing what’s necessary. English seamen or not…
There's only one way to appease the sports gods...
change our state flag to this
Any good lawyer
knows that the judicial branch can only interpret or invalidate black letter law. The NCAA judiciary is rewriting law here, codifying its own statutes. Masoli met the requirements of the rule. He should have been allowed to transfer. Unjust? News flash- bad law makes bad cases, but you decide them based on the bad law, and then the judiciary changes the fucking law…you can’t change it on your own! Simply put, the NCAA should have allowed Masoli to play, then done away with this horrendous rule. Now, the precedent in these situations is all over the place.
But the NCAA is the judiciary.
The NCAA is judge, jury, and executioner. There are no division of powers, there is no competition, there are no checks and balances – which is all exactly why the NCAA can say “well, we know what the rules say and all but, enh, we kinda meant them to say this.”
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Take a picture, trick.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 1, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
*is no division
Frustration doesn’t help my grammar.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Take a picture, trick.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 1, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Well Friends...
I know we are in upheaval over losing Masoli…but ummm…I hope we aren’t in line to lose perhaps our best player on the team…team captain…OleForty…Word on the beat is he is in Ohio for a second opinion on his heart condition. Masoli was the icing on top to start the season, but KT was the cake.
by Geaux To Hell LSU on Aug 31, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
I am all for sending Jerrell Powe, Terrel Brown, and few other fellows to make our "appeal" to the NCAA.
Especially since Powe will have plenty to “talk” over with the NCAA.
But they have to leave
a quorum conscious to accept the appeal.
And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!
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