Tuesday Question - 08/24/2010
by Ivory Tower on Aug 24, 2010 9:50 AM EDT
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PrintGenerally, we are the "authors" of "content" around here - "here" being a blog and not a message board. Recognize, we do, that you've come here not to contribute, but to consume. Nevertheless, there is the sporadic occasion where, either for our benefit or for to exercise the thinkifiers of the masses, we ask you a question. Today's question is ...
Are the 2010 Rebels better without Jevan Snead?
If you're thinking "asked and answered," you might be close to right. We must have angered the internet Gods when we went to the law library and used <EGAD!> a book for research instead of that infinite series of divine tubes because the search function is not working for SBNation this morning, so we cannot peruse our archives for evidence that we were right in the past. Where were we? Oh, right.
Who would have thought at the apex of Snead hype just one year ago that our hopes would blow up in our face almost as bad as bad draft advice. Almost. We actually had to Google Snead to find out what the heck he's doing (going back to the Bucs, per Bleacher report ... so probably starting training to be the non-athlete-kind of Texas Ranger). Twenty interceptions later and a hyped-up transfer later, some Rebels feel pretty good about how everything has gone down. Snead's (possibly) ill-advised decision opened the door for Nate Stanley to get a whole spring as the presumptive starter. While that's not the same thing as being the starter, it's a lot more reps and experience than he would have gotten otherwise.
Also, we've reintroduced Operation: Highly-touted Quarterback Transfer from Big-time Program. Maybe we should just keep employing that strategy. I hear Zach Mettenberger is available. Does Mitch Mustain have any eligibility left-over? One would hope; poor bastard sure hasn't used any of it on the field. Sure, every year we could tell our guy that he's the guy, so that he uses that starting-quarterback ambition to become a top-notch back-up. <------ PLAN IZ FUL PROOF.
We're going to ask this question again in a few months, just to show you all how wrong you probably will have been proven by then. Vote early and often.
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Snead is a player on Madden this year. He has an overall rating of 58. That’s the last that I heard of him.
by 7thYearJunior on Aug 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
As long as our QB's
don’t throw 20 picks this season, then yes, we are better off without him.
^This^
I will glad for a ball control offense as long as we don’t have tons of turnovers. That is what killed us last season, especially in the Auburn game.
And State.
We don’t turn the ball over in that game, we win.
We lost two games due to Jevan’s pick sixes.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 24, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Auburn, State
Have you forgotten his 4 against Alabama? He lost that game too
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by BrianWalker'sElbow on Aug 24, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If he doesn't throw those picks to Bama,
we lose. Bama was too good. The score would have been something like 24-21, but we still would have lost.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 24, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not convinced we would've scored on that D
even if we would’ve had those 4 possessions back. They scored 22, which was probably more than enough to beat us even without the 4 picks.
Look at those INTs again.
Two were right in receivers’ hands and they gave them up. That interception Hodge put in the Bama defender’s hands while he was sitting down was among the worst mistakes I’ve ever seen a receiver make. I swear I left that game wondering if he had money on Bama and was trying to give it up, he practically handed it to the defender. There were a lot of interceptions like that last year. At least one against Auburn was that way. One against MSU was. Snead deserves a lot of criticism but his receivers sucked, and that can’t be ignored. Unfortunately, I haven’t yet seen a reason to think they’ll be better this year.
I’m not convinced QB is a better position. Stanley is unproven. Masoli is proven but from what I’ve read from Oregon fans he will probably give us some of the same head-scratching moments Snead did. Mackey is a juco transfer and they never work out. Maybe between the 3 of them the position is better but I’m not convinced any one of them make it better.
I remember a fluke on in the Auburn game
but it was off the receivers foot. I don’t remember any bobbled type pass except the one of our safety that ended up in the Auburn receiver’s hand.
Snead was the victim of his own dumb mistakes but was also seemingly snake bitten.
I’ve never in my life see so many unlucky bounces right into the waiting arms of defenders. One of the worst was against Auburn when the receiver fell as the ball arrived, it bounced off of him and right into a defender’s hands – a defender with nothing but green between him and the endzone.
Mixed feelings on this question...
I would rather have an experienced QB entering his 3rd season under center. But Stanley/Masoli are probably worth the risk. I dont see the Rebs winning 9 games though…so NO i dont think we’re better off in 2010.
by ThemRebsIsHellDontThey on Aug 24, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think the question is asking "better than we were last season."
It’s asking “is the 2010 Ole Miss Rebels squad better with Snead at quarterback or with Stanley/Masoli.”
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 24, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the best way to look at it....
It is too early to tell if we could be better, overall, than we were last year. However, I certainly think we will be better off without Snead as our QB. I try my best to stay away from blaming losses on any one player, but he really cost us a couple games last season. I agreewith the people above who said that State and Auburn would have been wins had he not thrown all those pick-sixes. I also agree that we weren’t going to be beat Bama, but his four picks were killer there as well. It was amazing we didn’t lose that game by 100 points considering Bama’s average starting field position was around our 30 yard line. I think the mental image I will always have of Snead will be his blog for Sporting News where he basically begged fans not to boo him- not the mentality you want in your QB.
Based on how hott the competition is
I would say yes it will be a much better season. How much better would stanley have gotten if he werent being pushed by the competition with masoli and mackey. So now we have an inexperienced qb listed as the “starter” which could have been a lot less polished without this competition and we have 2 experienced Qb’s both whom have won national titles with either a high school team and or juco team. Not that that amounts to anything other than confidence in the sec gauntlet ahead of them but its better than having an inconsistent qb as the starter.
BUCS Re-Sign Jevan Snead
From The Associated Press
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have re-signed rookie free agent Jevan Snead after losing starting quarterback Josh Freeman for the rest of the preseason.
Read more: NEMS360.com – Sports
Too early to tell.
Yeah Jevan killed us with interceptions, but he had experience against SEC defenses and our new guys have to acclimate quickly.
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by ARebel21 on Aug 24, 2010 7:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tough call.
It obviously depends on how well Nate/Masoli works out. I will say, though, the 2011 Ole Miss Rebels will be much better off without Snead (playing in 2010).
I voted yes, we are better off without Snead, buuuuuuuuut
I changed my mind after reading this thread.
He receivers sucked majorly. Hodge was the only target he had. And Dexter is average as a WR. There is a reason people want 6’4" WR. Dex needed 2x as much separation as a guy like Hodge. (of course as a RB, I doubt I will see another player as exciting and fun to watch as DMC.) Summers tipped the ball to defenders for INT’s twice, ALA and AUB.
Snead did throw some terrible picks though. Against ALA alone, the first pass of the game could have been a huge gain had Snead kept the ball down. And the pick at the goal line in the 4th QTR was the end of the 2nd half rally.
But I have to disagree with Ghost, we could have beaten Alabama with a half ass offense that played the whole game. Our defense beat the shit out of McElroy to the point that he had 3 bad games after us.
But after watching many games on the DVR, Snead was a battler. He got roughed up in every tough game. He had some big runs too. (some that got called back as well.) The pro-style offense also creates more INT’s than the spread. Almost all guys with lots of TD’s and single digit INT’s are running the spread.
For all the shit that fans have talked about Snead, name one game that he quit on. (and his senior season doesn’t count.)
/end long ass post
I'm a little disappointed that "thug u" recieved fewer votes than "no."
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