On the Other Hand: The Case for a Tailgating Fee
A few days ago the university announced that it had no plans to charge a fee for tailgaters in 2010. The general reaction was collective approval with a splash here and there of "dadgum banker Boone gonna go too far one day, I tell you what!" Anathema as poll taxes, a tailgating fee has been cast as an un-American assault on the freedom of Rebel fans to assemble 'neath the shade trees and get Old Testament-style loaded like their about to embark upon an invasion of Greece. That penny-pinching Boone and Chancellor Jones (secretly Darth Medicus) were at it again. The glory of the Grove was, surely, at stake.
But is there an argument that Grove charging is not such a bad idea?
When the season opens up in September, I will for the first time be an ex-Oxonian. A Juris Doctor awaits me in May, and Jackson's my reward. So, I will be in the awkward and new position of driving up to Oxford - tent in tow - for the instant classic opener against Perriloux State. The game will be on my birthday, so get excited for that!Now, maybe the Grove will open no earlier than 10:00 o'clock, and my favorite spot beside the band won't be taken by some hap-hazard undergraduate. Maybe, but I rather doubt it. So, if I want to be certain that I get my spot, I will have to approach one of the many private "firms" engaged in tent reservation and erection to whom I might pay a sum approaching a thousand dollars for the guarantee that my spot will, in fact, be my spot.
Resist the urge to cast me in the Boston harbor when I tell you that "big tent" is making way more money than their service is really worth, and that a government takeover of the tent business is more efficient. For most graduates there is a de facto tent fee to get a spot in the Grove or Circle, that subsidizes undergraduate liquor habits (not that I have anything against undergraduates having liquor habits, but I've got one too; nobody jumped up to subsidize mine).
What if the university centralized the whole thing? The Physical Plant provides the tents. The spaces are reserved. The whole kit-and-kaboodle; show up on Saturday morning with your tables and chairs and Ole Miss sends you a bill with some specified portion going to, hell, scholarships or something. It's not unprecedented, as Auburn does something very similar, albeit with one private firm getting the whole contract.
Would the best spots be up to the highest bidder? Sure. But they already, essentially, are. Do you old farts think you're going to muscle past that army of tent pros with their factory-class dollies to get your precious spot on the Walk of Champions? Dream on, Susan. So, it would not be such an intrusion on our liberties (or whatever) if certain portions of the university were taken over on Saturday by the university as a tester. Maybe not the whole joint, but just the Walk and the Circle (that way we don't have to worry about paying until we have kids and stop drinking, which, judging by the polar frequencies of our drankin' and gettin' sexed on, could be a while). Before long, I think we would find that all the folks in the "reserved" area are just as happy giving their money to Dr. Jones as they were giving it to some undergraduate.
Here's my point: I am not going to listen to a bunch of Spirit posters, who dutifully give their money to someone else to set up their tent, complain when the university decides that maybe it'd be a better idea if that money went to the school, instead of some hipster that maintains his Ox-leech lifestyle by milking the tent cow five times a year. I am not saying I am sold on the idea, but I am saying that I am open to an affordable business model.
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Glad you put this in writing and posted it.
But “gettin’ sexed on?” Who says that crap?
I'm a Rebel, but I bleed the cherry and silver of the Lobos.
People who don't
get sexed on.
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Blame the Baptists.
by Juco All-American on Apr 16, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
"Big Tent" is making way more money than their service is really worth.
No, not really. If people are willing to pay that much to get their tents set up then that is how much it is worth. It’s capitalism.
That is part of the point.
They are using resources that do not belong to them, i.e. the Grove, and making a profit.
I don’t think IT is arguing with capitalism. I think he wants it to work in his interest, meaning in the university’s favor. Good ways Ole Miss can do that is by undercutting the costs of and stealing the resources from a competitor, which in this case is Big Tent.
I'm a Rebel, but I bleed the cherry and silver of the Lobos.
by Role Player on Apr 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree...
What about the people who set up their own tents? It wouldn’t be fair to charge them for something just because others are paying tent companies the outrageous prices for a luxury. Nobody has a gun to your head making you pay them.
People need to make money somehow, especially college students who are broke enough as it is.The university would not only be taking money from those students by taking their jobs, they would also be charging their families more by implementing a Grove Tax.
Its a losing situation for everyone, except the people already paying for their grove spots.
I don't like tents in the Grove.
They spoil the view. But I’m not going to win that argument. So here are two plausible compromise solutions to the problem stated above:
1. The University takes over the Grove concession but contracts out the service to those entrepreneurs currently engaged in the business, and takes a cut off the top. OR
2. The University “taxes” the folks using public property to earn private profit. Probably this tax gets passed along to Grovers. The relatively few who do it the old-fashioned way & set up their own kit either get a free pass or pay a lower “use tax.”
Eschew obfuscation.
by sutpens100 on Apr 16, 2010 1:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
An argument against tents in the grove
is no friend of mine.
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Blame the Baptists.
by Juco All-American on Apr 16, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope springs eternal!
Eschew obfuscation.
by sutpens100 on Apr 16, 2010 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good Job Ivory
I agree that charging isn’t a bad Idea, why not let the university take over, where like season tickets, a fan can reserve a spot in the Grove. And different sections that are more desireable or “Prime Real Estate” cost’s more than other sections.
We could also set up a Corporate Section in the Grove where we could charge these companies UnGodly sums of money for the privelege of setting up a tent to give a way food and hand out pamphlets to the people who want to check them out…….Credit Card Companies would jump all over this, but if I were in charge they wouldn’t be allowed anywhere near my kids….fucking bloodsuckers.
Anyway I like the idea.
I'm simply legendary......
The same applies to the bloodsucking politicians that set up during election years.
Irony’d
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Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].
by Ivory Tower on Apr 16, 2010 9:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The same applies to the bloodsucking politicians that set up during election years.
Irony’d
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].
by Ivory Tower on Apr 16, 2010 9:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but you know that the youngun's don't really vote
They’re all active and will protest and shit, but will totally have something more important to do on election day. That’s the real Irony, but I’m talking about the bloodsuckers who prey on youth………Hey come and get a Free T-shirt, but apply for this credit card first you dumbass 18 yr olds, be my debt slave for life bitches.
I'm simply legendary......
by IamMSlegend on Apr 17, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
How about..
A permanent Powe’s Catfish & RIb Shack built by the stage with proceeds going to the school. You could have a "Giant "(redundant) Powe statue similar to Shoney’s old “BIG BOY” icon beside it or in mural form.

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