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Message Board Idiots - Mascot Debate

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See, it's funny because it's a chimp doing people stuff. Right guys?!

You knew this was going to happen. No intro is needed aside from the obligatory tip of the hat to Juco, One Man, Ivory, and all of the others who helped put this together. And you know that we would love for you to find your own example of message board idiocy to share in the comments thread below.

Most of what you'll see in here comes from the few Clarion-Ledger comments threads out there which supplement the articles and blog posts surrounding the mascot debate. A few others are from the Spirit and Rivals boards but, really, it doesn't matter where they're from; the URLs don't vary the sentiments one bit. Alright, on with the show!

User mwk7 says:

Front office needs to go starting with dan "i only care about myself" jones and pete "too stingy" boone... these people and others (marketing department) are hindering ole miss' full potential and are even setting us back with all of this awful PR.. I wish i was a big time booster so i could put my foot down, but i am far from that.. how the hell did dan jones get elected in the first place??

Nothing says "I only care about myself" like spending seven years in Asia on a medical mission, presiding over the American Heart Association, and willingly taking on the incredibly difficult tasks demanded of the Ole Miss Chancellorship. That Dan Jones, what a selfish jackass.

And I'll tell you how he got elected in the first place: he didn't. Chancellors aren't elected, they're appointed by the Board of Trustees. It has been this way since, oh, I dunno, a long-ass time ago.

Star-divide

User Oxfordrebel22 says:

What about other teams with offensive nicknames??  No one seems to be making a big deal about them.  The reason is b/c their administration are not making it into a national ordeal.  Colonel Rebel was not a big deal until our administration made him into one.

Here is a short list of controversial mascots or team names which I have come up with literally off of the top of my head:

  • Illinois' Chief Illiniwek was removed from their sporting events only a few years ago under pressure from the NCAA.
  • The Stanford athletic teams once went by the name "Indians". They changed it to the "Cardinal" to avoid NCAA and alumni scrutiny.
  • The Fighting Sioux of North Dakota have been under seemingly continuous NCAA pressure to remove their moniker.
  • The Syracuse Orange were once known as the Syracuse Orangemen. To be more inclusive, they dropped "men".
  • Beauregard was ousted as the mascot of the UNLV Rebels for - wait for it, wait for it - invoking strong images of the confederacy. (Look at him. He's basically a wolf wearing a Rebel uniform.)

None of us are saying we necessarily agree with these changes, but to talk about this as if it's uniquely an Ole Miss problem and chiefly the result of our own doing shows that you, sir, haven't been paying attention.

 

Oxfordrebel22 also says:

I'll tell you this much:  Colonel Reb didn't offend 1/2 the people that having a convicted felon like Snoop Dogg do the Hotty Toddy offended.  Is that progress??

Bullshit. You didn't even have a damn clue who Snoop Dogg was when he appeared to do the Hotty Toddy. And this is literally the first I've seen or heard of anyone taking objection to Snoop-a-loop appearing on the jumbotron wearing a Rebel jersey. And for me, a guy whose finger is obsessively on the pulse of Ole Miss athletics, to say that I think says a lot.

 

User attorneyswife says:

I disagree that "a great many people perceive that Colonel Reb is offensive". A more accurate statement might be that many African Americans perceive that Colonel Reb is offensive.

Oh, my bad. Next time I won't mistake African Americans for people.

Seriously though, this type of insensitivity is rampant throughout these comments threads. It seems that many people don't feel that blacks have the right to be offended or that, if they are offended, they are rarely justifiably so. Basically, a lot of people don't give a shit if something offends black people. They just don't. This is a huge problem and one which I feel is embarrassingly indicative of what I have begun calling "the Ole Miss country club mentality." Many alumni and, yes, even students have this idea that Ole Miss is really only best for people like them and everyone else can just get the fuck out if they don't like it. While I feel a real privilege to be a part of the Ole Miss family, I won't kid myself into thinking that it is or should be something overly exclusive.

 

User Dawg63 says:

Who's next to go? Colonel Sanders? I seriously doubt that will ever happen and I'm sure most of you know why!! Nuff said. LOL

Mississippi State, despite forever marketing itself as the more progressive antithesis to Ole Miss, is just as chock full of racist fuckfaces. So don't worry Rebels. Well, go ahead and worry, but not as much I guess.

 

User floreb says:

Keep the Colonol......Racisem is gone, gone, gone. As look into the faces of our our Rebels, I see no color. Help us out, Duece, Pat, and Dex.

Obvious spelling and punctuation errors aside, I find it interesting that floreb claims to see no color when he looks into the faces of our Rebels immediately before mentioning Deuce McAllister, Pat (Patterson?) (Trahan?) (Willis?), and Dexter McCluster. Your idea of tolerance and diversity is pretty much in tune to that of Michael Scott's.

 

User waywayout says:

Just wait until downtown Oxford gets it's fair share of NAIL SALONS, CHECK CASHING PLACES, DRIVE-BY SHOOTINGS, automobiles fancied up with all kinds of designs, kids wearing their pants below the butt, do-rags, baseball caps turned sideways. This is coming, and won't be fast enough for all the PC liberals out there.

Wow... For anyone who doesn't see any sort of racial connotation behind the Colonel Reb debate, here's exhibit A.

 

And finally, user atwood510 says:

Has anyone ever wondered why Oxford has never had a Ryan's, Golden Corral, or even a Western Sizzlin?

Nope, because those restaurants suck.

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My favorite so far....A bear meats ALL of the mascot criteria.....

ok….A: Where the hell is this criteria at and wtf is it?

B: A Bear? Really? Why?

Ok, I can understand the Bear now that I think about it. It fish’s and is grossly overweight. Yep, That actually does represent Mississippi pretty well.

by pankReb on Feb 26, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

I understand your attempt at humor.

However, a bear actually fits really well. Onward, Ms, which is located in the MS Delta, is the birthplace of the teddy bear. It was created after President Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt went on a bear hunt and would not shoot a small bear. Locals made a small, stuffed bear to commemorate the event.

Mississippi used to have many bears, and a few still live in the Delta. I know that one lives on Yazoo National Wildlife Refuge which is located between Hollandale and Glen Allan.

As far as mascot criteria, they are probably thinking 1) an animal 2)indigenous to MS 3)intimidating to others

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by BrianWalker'sElbow on Feb 26, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

My post did have a slight attempt at humor...

…and I know about the Roosevelt and Faulkner ties, but I still think that its stupid as hell.

And the “meets ALL criteria” part was pulled from the Spirit. They aren’t thinking about things that you posted. They’re criteria includes financial benefits, cost/profit analysis, and most importantly……will my co-worker from up North think it’s cool.

Admittedly there are FAR worse things than a Bear for a mascot, but some people are going ape-shit over it. People are giving the Spirit-patented, “I’m going to list only pros that fit my agenda and call anyone who opposes my ideas idiots, morons, etc.”

by pankReb on Feb 26, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. It's right up there with people who correct grammar on a blog....

Please forgive my poor writing. My head feels like it has 10 pounds of shit in it and my stomach is being occupied with a fist full of meds……..My grammar will likely suffer but I could really give two shits about it.

Thank you for your concern and I will take as much care of it as I will this used Kleenex sitting next to me.

by pankReb on Feb 26, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude

you’re new here aren’t you? That’s just how things go here.

BUT…if you don’t like it, we do have an option for you:

LEAVE

by the_drake on Feb 26, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Been reading for quite some time now.

But thanks for your concern. It came just in time as I now have a 2nd used Kleenex.

by pankReb on Feb 26, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ease off. Pank's an alright guy.

I’ve seen him on these here intratubes and he generally doesn’t come off as being so mentally challenged or high on painkillers.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Feb 26, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

high on painkillers.

While that was a shot at me of sorts…….it’s 110% correct.

by pankReb on Feb 26, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a shot.

You said something about a fistfull of meds. I assumed it to be true.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Feb 26, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't picking on you.

I was just making the case for the black bear. Nothing more.

Sorry it lead to your crucifixion by the grammar and content police.

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by BrianWalker'sElbow on Feb 26, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong

with the black bear but I imagine someone partial to white bears (polar bears) is sitting in their outhouse in Brooklyn, Mississippi wondering why it’s gotta be a buh-lack bear?!

I'm not here to be liked by strangers, I'm here for Ole Miss. If you don't like what I post, go tell it to someone that gives a shit. Thanks.

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Feb 27, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

NOBAMA

The liberals and gays and atheists and Yankees and unions and Muslims and grammar police and media elites (what the Hell? I think I just listed everyone who posts here) and OBAMAPELOSIREID and ACORN are going to make Ole Miss have a “hip-hop rapper” bear, with his pants hanging down below his BUTT and gold teeth.

Why? They hate us for our freedom.

by HandsomeSam on Feb 27, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

 tons of republican, conservative, christian rightwing people (aka Crackers) that love hip-hop but I’ve never met a muslim or gay person that does. I don’t think Muslims know what hip hop is and as for the gays, Cher, Madonna and Lady GaGa ain’t hip-hop so… although I must confess a liking for Missy Elliott and Outkast. Everything else is just cRAP.

I'm not here to be liked by strangers, I'm here for Ole Miss. If you don't like what I post, go tell it to someone that gives a shit. Thanks.

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Feb 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

From the DM...
This whole situation is completely twisted. Ole Miss is going to be a tragically different school and team, in the up coming years. Rebel football is going to suffer from this corrupt ballot as well…..It makes me ashamed to be part of the Institution.

Catch it in ur mouth like ur last name Moss...

by Rh0d3$t@r on Feb 26, 2010 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

That

made me cringe. Like the football players are going to do any better or worse because there’s a(nother) funny-looking goofy ass jumping around on the sidelines.

I think they’re a little too busy PLAYING FOOTBALL to give a shit about the mascot, until they score a TD.

And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!

by UMBAI on Feb 26, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for the inevitable

“the last time we won a national championship we wuz still segregated, so we were better off then, duuur…”

Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Feb 26, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

Oxford

doesn’t have a Ryan’s, Golden Corral or Western Sizzlin’ because the people that run those companies are running them for a reason: They know no buffet will survive in a town in which Jerrell Powe resides.

I'm not here to be liked by strangers, I'm here for Ole Miss. If you don't like what I post, go tell it to someone that gives a shit. Thanks.

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Feb 26, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

FAIL Button

We can rec posts, but why can’t we fail them?

I'm a Rebel, but I bleed the cherry and silver of the Lobos.

by Role Player on Feb 26, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Isn't that

what the Flag button next to ‘rec’ is for?

And here's a lighthouse keeper being beheaded by a laser beam!

by UMBAI on Feb 26, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Just like squack em was created

You should create a message board and comment thread moniker with the purpose of trying to “out-idiot” people. Just keep going over the top too see what they will agree with, and post your findings here.

by Greg H on Feb 26, 2010 4:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i know its a little late for this comment thread but i had to share

Supposedly a facebook status reads “bradley sowell Really hopes this admiral ackbar shit is a joke, that would be a disgrace to Ole Miss”
 just note mr sowell while I agree with you somewhat I think that u should know that some consider, You, to be a disgrace to Ole Miss with your “not wanting to be ranked” quotes and such.

by the love IS gone... to omaha on Feb 26, 2010 11:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

of all the things that are disgraces to Ole Miss

I would think the Admiral would be the least disgraceful idea. Maybe someday we can all hop in a DeLorean and travel back to a time when people gave a flying fuck what Bradley Sowell thinks.

There's a darkness on the edge of town.

by Evil Betty on Feb 27, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry Betty

Checked the DeLorean and you actually have to select a year. “Never” isn’t an option.

by Catfish Row on Feb 27, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

The Facebook

status does read that and as I said elsewhere here at RCR, I’d like to tell him “No, your blocking is a disgrace to Ole Miss”.

I'm not here to be liked by strangers, I'm here for Ole Miss. If you don't like what I post, go tell it to someone that gives a shit. Thanks.

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Feb 27, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

no worries

The administration has already picked out the Black Bear as the next mascot. All you have to do now is continue to wait and do nothing and in about 5 years you won’t be Rebels you will be Black Bears.

Once you have given in there’s no stopping progress. Confederate flag, Colonel Reb, Slow Dixie, new mascot, new nickname.

Continue on Mississippi Black Bears.

But you’ll still have the cemetery behind the Tad Pad that has both Union and Confederate soldiers buried there to remind you, there once were proud people who would die for their beliefs.

by ramblinrebelman on Mar 1, 2010 1:29 AM EST reply actions  

That’s great for them but I sure as hell wouldn’t die or even be mildly inconvenienced for a confederate flag.

There's a darkness on the edge of town.

by Evil Betty on Mar 1, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The will to die for one's beliefs

It’s not exactly the best barometer for evaluating those beliefs.

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Mar 1, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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