Rebel Roundup - 2/17/10 - Brief Ash Wednesday News and Notes
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Feb 17, 2010 10:41 AM EST
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Here's a suggestion: how about we get Terrico White to run the point? I'm totally serious here. I think he'd open up more scoring opportunities than Chris Warren can right now, and for me, a big time Chris Warren guy, to say that takes a lot.
Buckner to Return vs. Vandy | Brandt
This is a big deal. Some would posit that, without our best post defender over the last few games, we were bound to lose. This gives us a legitimate, if not favorable chance, against the ranked Vanderbilt Commodores on Thursday. That game is more-or-less a must win if we're looking to make the tourney.
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According to Jason Smith, Mike Bianco is looking for experience to minimalize mistakes and win games for us this year, while youth is where we look to generate significant offense. I'm betting we'll host a Super Regional and miss out on Omaha by a few measely runs, again.
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Unrelated but...
Was it totally wrong of me to root for Stateagainst Kentucky last night? In my defense I went back into ‘hating-those-rednecks’ mode when they started throwing things on the court…
by 7thYearJunior on Feb 17, 2010 10:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes, it was totally wrong.
In other news
TSUN, can you say SWEEP????
was in the comments of today’s CL article on last night’s game. “Man, that Kentucky game sure sucked, but remember when we beat TSUSNN@N@!#N$%#%#$ HAHAHA LOL AT TSUUUNNNNNN!”
It’s fun to be obsessed over. It really is.
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Take a picture, trick.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Feb 17, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Well said...
Make sure you get those “crosshairs of hate” back where they belong… right dead center in the middle of starkgahnistan.
by Any Given Thursday on Feb 17, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, Dumb question. Absolutely no defense for afore mentioned transgression.
Forget the fact that it’s state, but we’re also a game and tiebreaker behind the in the standings. I hate Calipari more than the next guy could ever imagine, but it doesn’t trump my love of Ole Miss. Standings matter more. state’s loss was good for us.
Reading this from Pat Forde just made it that much better:
And then their fans – some of whom are the nastiest and most vulgar I’ve heard in 19 years of covering SEC basketball – embarrassed the school by throwing bottles on the floor.
When life gives you the chance to be with somebody special, you grab that brownish area by its points and don't let go no matter what your mom says.
by buster_bluth on Feb 17, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Usually I consider Clay Travis a douche
(at least the Alabama fan part of me) but he said this in his Fanhouse column (http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2010/02/15/kentuckys-cousins-target-of-racist-phone-calls/):
No one knows what to expect in Starkville, DeMarcus, no one.
Well, scratch that, there are lots of cows and people who wish they could have gotten into Ole Miss.
Oh, and everyone at State hates Clay Travis because they said he made them look bad in “Dixieland Delight” and was “obviously biased toward Ole Miss.” So the guy can’t be a total douche.
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Feb 17, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wait....
you’re predicting that we host a super regional?
Oh no.
As far as Terrico White, I’ve been an advocate of letting him run the point for a while now. Chris Warren is a shooter.
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by Juco All-American on Feb 17, 2010 11:01 AM EST reply actions
I don't know...
if I can handle another super regional game 3 defeat. Oh, the heartache! If only that little capsular tendon in Bittles arm would have cooperated. If only Button hadn’t made that 8th inning chuck Knoblauchesque throwing error.
by bovice on Feb 17, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for correctly spelling "Knoblauch."
Fun fact: “Knoblauch” is German for “garlic.”
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Take a picture, trick.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Feb 17, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I really might have a complete meltdown
if we lose another Super Regional at home this year.
I just can’t handle that.
Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.
Moo Cow Fight Song?!?
I don’t keep up much with the cow tipper’s athletics but since when did they make the feeble attempt to create an original fight song by completely manipulating ours? Did anyone else notice that? Wow…Hats off for originality…
by GeauxToHellLSU on Feb 17, 2010 11:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Which one?
That droning, Gregorian-chant-like dirge they call “Hail State?” Or the Gary Glitter-infused, Hotty Toddy/Rammer Jammer rip-off (complete with a Rocky Top “WHOO!” so they’re actually ripping off THREE schools there).
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Feb 17, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Must be that one.
And, yes, everybody copies that from us because we rule.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Feb 17, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, they did that song at the "Library Rave"
You know, the rave they copied from Ole Miss?
Though, I gotta admit, it did look pretty cool with that big three story atrium (damn it).
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Feb 17, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Chris isn't running the point now...
Once we’re in our half court sets, EP is our primary ball handler. Chris handles the ball on the breaks more often than not as he does a better job of staying in control than EP does, but it would be hard to designate him as a point guard the way our half court sets are run.
As for Terrico, until he wants it, it’s not going to matter if we designate him the PG, SG, C, BMF, PHD, etc… He’s not demanding the ball and being aggressive. For his FT throw attempts to be as low as they are with his size and skill set is absolutely inexcusible. I don’t know what it’s going to take to wake him up, but AK and staff need to figure it out by 5:59 tomorrow evening or we’re in for a long night.
I’ve made the comparison before, but he’s turned into AK’s version of Greg Hardy: unlimited potential, flashes of sheer brilliance, but at the end of the game, you typically look back and realize he didn’t do nearly as much as he could’ve or should’ve. Remarkably frustrating guy to watch play.
When life gives you the chance to be with somebody special, you grab that brownish area by its points and don't let go no matter what your mom says.
"As for Terrico, until he wants it, it’s not going to matter"
The lynch pin. We will go dancing or journey toward MSG based on this.
I'm a Rebel, but I bleed the cherry and silver of the Lobos.
by Role Player on Feb 17, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed....
Terrico just doesn’t seem all that interested most games. At this point, not sure what to expect from him from game-to-game. He should definitely be shooting more FT’s than he currently does.
Warren is really not our PG. We have a PG by committee thing going on right now. Also, I hate to make a comment like this because he has hit so many big shots for us, but Chris is basically the same player he was as a freshman. He is a liability defensively, so if he doesn’t give us 20 on any given night, he actually hurts us being out on the floor.
Thank you.
If Chris Warren isn’t scoring, a lot, he isn’t valuable on the floor.
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by Juco All-American on Feb 17, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
His stature is going to be a detriment against bigger guards regardless...
but I’m fascinated by the fact that a guy so quick with the ball in his hands on offense can have so much trouble staying in front of a dribbling opponent. While Chris does have a propensity to jack up some seemingly ill advised shots – though it has improved some this year – some of that could be alleviated if someone cough cough TERRICO cough cough would step up and demand the damn ball. To Terrico’s credit though, he’s still rebounding the ball well.
White’s apathy and Polynice’s utter inability to hit a shot of more than 8 feet on a consistent basis puts more pressure on Chris to score from the outside as Zach Graham has disappeared off the face of the earth, Trevor is merely inconsistent on a good night, and Terrance Henry hasn’t put it all together just yet. So yes, blame Chris for his defensive ineptitude and his poor shot selection, but at least – for the most part – he’s maximizing the abilities that gave him.
The same cannot be said for Terrico on the offensive end.
When life gives you the chance to be with somebody special, you grab that brownish area by its points and don't let go no matter what your mom says.
by buster_bluth on Feb 17, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Can you guys please beat Vanderbilt?
Pretty please? Some of the Vanderbilt fans around have been running their mouth about how much the West sucks, and how Georgia would be the best team in the West (even though they’re 0-4 against SEC West foes), and how the SEC East is “like the Big East”. So, if you could give them a concrete reason to be a little less ridiculous, I’d appreciate it.
Buster's right...
…in almost every facet of his argument.
You HAVE to have Chris Warren on the floor. He’s your best scorer and the guy who gives you a chance to win each night. Saying that he’s the same player he was is kind of a dumb argument. The guy’s 5’9" or 5’10," how much BETTER did you think he was going to get coming off of a season ending knee injury? At his size, he is what he is, a lethal jump shooter.
Terrico is the reason that this team has been inconsistent in SEC play. I’ve even called him a bust in the SEC this season. The guy was a preseason 1st Team All-SEC selection and has had TWO good games all season (Kansas State and Kentucky). Outside of that, he’s disappeared and has struggled to do anything from the perimeter. It’s a shame, too, b/c he has a gorgeous jump shot and the athletic ability to take over a game by himself. Hell, he did it last year.
Without Terrance Henry’s performance this team isn’t 5-5 in the SEC.
Zach Graham was so good in non-conference play and has disappeared against SEC foes.
If we’re counting on Trevor Gaskins then we really are in trouble.
This team is clearly far better with Buckner in the line-up.
Ok...
My argument was not that he is the same player because he is still 5-9 or 5-10. I was trying to make a general observation (I did a poor job) about the biggest problem with our hoops program: I haven’t really seen one player develop since they arrived as a freshman. Holloway still has no right hand (which is baffling for a DI college player) so he is easy to guard, Polynice has improved at the FT line, so I give him that, but he still can’t come close to hitting a perimeter jumper, so he has little value against a zone; Gaskins and Terrico seemed to have actually regressed. I understand some of these guys have been injured, etc. I was just making the point that our biggest problem is that everyone in our conference could write a book on how to play against our style, which is why we tank in conference play every year. I don’t know who is at fault for these things, and wouldn’t even venture a guess. It also hurts us that we lost Malcolm White and David Huertas. David was great against zone defenses, which is what we see night after night in conference play.
Look, I love Chris. He has made some big plays for us. And I am not saying he is an awful player. But, I too have a hard time understanding how he has so much trouble staying in front of someone on defense when he is so quick. This is just my opinion, but he gives up so many points on the defensive end that if he doesn’t score about 25-30 points for us, we are getting outplayed at the PG position and he actually hurts us. If you noticed, he was on the bench for long stretches in the Kentucky game because he could not guard any of Kentucky’s perimter players. He also doesn’t distribute the ball well, which is what this team desperately needs. Just my two cents..I certainly am not always right.
One last thing...
I wholeheartedly agree that our biggest (individual) problem is not Warren’s defensive inadequacies or anything like that, but Terrico White’s disappearing act for the majority of the season.
The UK game was one of the frustrating ones though
Terrico dominated that game for the first 6 minute of the second half. Wall, Bledsoe, Dodson… it didn’t matter who calipari put on him. He went around/over/through whoever it was. Then, he didn’t score the last 14 minutes of that game. That’s unacceptable and inexcusable.
He’s got the size and skill set to be one of the top players in the country, let alone the SEC. He needs to understand that we need him to step up and take the tough shots, not Chris.
Kudos to Chris for having the stones to take the clutch shots, but he takes more than his fair share of head scratchers. AK is on record saying he wants 24 shots a game from Terrico. My main concern is his low number of FT attempts. If he gets to the line 10+ times in a game, we’ll be tough to beat.
When life gives you the chance to be with somebody special, you grab that brownish area by its points and don't let go no matter what your mom says.
by buster_bluth on Feb 17, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with both of you...
It just hasn’t come together for two halves since the Kansas State game, truthfully, and it’s easy to point fingers at coaches, but the real root of this is the players, in my opinion.
Yeah...
I agree and think AK has done a fine job and I disagree with people who say he is a bad X’s and O’s coach. I think he does a good job. He can’t make shots for the players, and he can’t make them more aggressive once the ball is tipped either. Motivation can only go so far, it is hard to change someone’s personality or temperament. I don’t always understand some of the dumb shots our guys take, but that isn’t coaching. If you watch AK, he is usually just as bewildered as most fans are by some of the shots taken. Here’s hoping we figure it all out and get back to the Dance….
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