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Blogger Q&A: Really, State?

This week, I had every intention of getting a good series of questions going with Jeremy Flint of SBNation's Mississippi State Blog, For Whom the Cowbell Tolls. I was even being a good little Ole Miss bloggeur, preparing our questions to send their way, when Ghost, monitoring the RCR GMail account with obsessive diligence, forwarded me their questions. Our previous interaction with FWtCT, being severely limited compared to our, let's say, "relationships" with And The Valley Shook and Roll Bama Roll, did not leave me with much to anticipate regarding any sort of question and answer swappage.

But I was optimistic. I mean, we do, fairly easily, cooperate, commingle, and co-blog with damn near every other college football blog out there, regardless of affiliation. We're homers, sure, but we don't think highly enough of ourselves or our team to think less of anyone who doesn't Hotty Toddy alongside us. And, frankly, it's fun to talk football with folks who don't see things the way we do because, for starters, it's only football and, secondly, good and intelligent people of good conscious can, in fact, disagree as to who should our shouldn't win an athletic contest. 

After reading the first question, I was pleased, considering it quite reasonable. "Great. I'm looking forward to this exchange. Shucks, maybe I'll even learn something or, at least, spark some good discussion."

Star-divide

Suffice it to say that it devolved from there. Fast. After seeing what was sent to us, I replied back to Ghost that no, I was not going to answer these questions, because I kinda take this blog seriously and I have enough of a respect for our SEC opponents - all of them - to address them and their fans with decorum and dignity. So instead of continuing the question and answer swapping, I decided just to end it there and post the ridiculous questions that Jeremy Flint asked of me.

1. How much of an impact will the suspension of wide receiver Melvin Harris have going into the Egg Bowl?

2. It is still very early in Dann [sic] Mullen's career as MSU Head coach, but he has definitely brought some heat to the rivalry with occasional jabs at The School Up North. Who do you hate more at this point - Dan Mullen or Jackie Sherrill?

3. TSUN has underperformed this year to say the least. Is Coach Giggity on the hot seat yet or is that even a possibility when coaching up there?

4. Masoli and Bolden are key players for the Rebel Black Bear offense.  Which one will be the biggest factor Saturday?  Masoli's arm or Bolden's legs?

5. Which loss will hurt more? Mississippi State or Jacksonville State?

6. How many points will the TSUN Black Bears lose this game by?

Throw away your disbelief right now, because what you just read is very real. As I said, the first question was totally normal. Melvin Harris was an important receiver for this year, and losing him for the final game could be rough. I came up with an answer for that one that made sense and was well-reasoned. In it, I discussed that Harris, Summers, and Logan have been somewhat interchangable but that I personally liked Melvin Harris the most. I was gonna do this just as I have done with every other blog we've ever done a question and answer exchange with ever. 

Then I moved onto the next question. "TSUN? What in the hell is this guy doing?" I thought that maybe he's just being sarcastic or doing a poor job of being clever. But then I kept reading, and I laughed at the guy's absurdity. Does he really think this way? Does he really get giddy and all proud of himself whenever he reminds himself just how much he hates Ole Miss? Does he expect us, or anyone, to take him seriously?

I laughed, and told Ghost I wouldn't be answering his questions, nor would I dignify him or his blog with any questions of mine - genuine or otherwise. I wasn't gonna play his stupid OMSpirit/Genespage inspired game, but I also wasn't about to show him the respect it would take for me to "take the high road" and reply to him as if he hadn't made an ass of himself.

For anyone who has grown up an Ole Miss fan in the State of Mississippi, though, this isn't even the slightest hint of surprising. Mississippi State fans have never really made it their modus operandi to be taken seriously, especially by their Rebel counterparts. Despite the fact that we grew up on the same streets, played in the same little leagues, went to the same churches, and graduated from the same high schools as many of the people who will be in Oxford clad in Maroon and white, we've all convinced ourselves that there is a great chasm of difference between our fan bases. We Rebels are guilty of this to an extent, but the greatest perpetrators of notion that they drive tractors while we sue people are undeniably State fans.

Hell, it was a State fan who coined that now ubiquitous EggBowl language (when discussing with an Omaha news reporter just how much he hates Ole Miss, despite the fact that the Bulldogs weren't even playing Ole Miss in the College World Series because Ole Miss, per the usual, wasn't even there). They fancy themselves the good to our evil and, as a result, cannot define themselves or establish any sort of identity without Ole Miss. So, in order to maintain their very essence, State fans must - not want, but must - continuously pester, antagonize, annoy, and lie about anything or anybody associated with Ole Miss. It's just who they are, and it's been who they are more-or-less ever since the inception of their school.

But, I posit to you, dear Cup reader, that this bogus Q and A wouldn't have taken place were someone other than Dan Mullen the head coach of Mississippi State. Mullen knows what we know, and that's Mississippi State's insistence on being the anti-Ole Miss is the driving force behind the Bulldogs' collective ego. So what he's done is, essentially, encourage childish dipshittery by engaging in it himself. And he hasn't done just that; he's taken up that banner proudly and thrust it out into the forefront. 

It's almost as if he announced from his pulpit, "hey, State fans, it's okay to act like a bunch of spoiled babies, because I'm doing that too! And, hey, I'm as good at it as you guys are, see! PLEASE LOVE ME.

This was obviously an attempt by Flint to get under our skin and, while somewhat successful, is something that is certainly not the point of a Blogger Q&A exchange. It's immature, undiplomatic, and annoying which, when considering who exactly is making this assertion, is pretty telling of just to what extent the collective State psyche has 

What next, Flint, you gonna call us "doodieheads" and then laugh at your own farts? The fact that you're the best guy SBNation could find to run as Mississippi State blog does more to damn the Bulldogs than anybody's "TSUN BLACKBEARS!!1" can do to the Rebels.

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I totally agree with everything here except for one thing.

I think Mullen’s reading of the MS State fanbase is brilliant. While he certainly is actively engaging in and encouraging their retarded dumbassery, the fact that he figured out so quickly the type of people he was dealing with and is using it to boost his own job approval is some classic shit.

by DuNing on Nov 26, 2010 6:26 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1!!!!

Remember in November.

by tlcreb17 on Nov 26, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

whatever works

he is filling the stadium better than Crxxm.

Remember the Maine!

by CoastalCowbell on Nov 26, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I always enjoy these exchanges. It kind of represents the 'grove' side of things...

Always had a good time meeting and chatting with other fans during pregame. It’s only in VHS where we’re enemies.
But lawdamerci…

I guess we can’t call them M$U anymore, since they didn’t have the stones to pony up the $ for Cam. And good for Auburn. I have always hated them but to hear the self-righteousness of the State fan base through this all is rather disgusting.

And agree with the two posters ahead of me I think #drunj

Now a bloggeur - http://www.msbeernut.com/

by Thile on Nov 26, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

Not surprised.

Let’s go out there and kick their ass.

"Go then, there are other worlds than these"-The Gunslinger

by ARebel21 on Nov 26, 2010 6:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Ridiculous.

The fact that this is the only blog in almost three years that you’ve had problems with speaks volumes.

It’s like trying to hold an intelligent conversation with the ten-year-olds that incessantly Tigerbaited me all last Saturday. Only more pathetic.

by MattSaracen on Nov 26, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Does sbnation pay that guy? His blog is pretty shitty

looks like he’s really bringing in the page views

I don't really work or live in jackson now.......shit?

by shitnowiworkinjackson on Nov 26, 2010 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

New shirt for you guys to put on sale...

No, I will not play Qb for your cowbell college for $180,000… a cowbell logo with red circle with line through it..

by hotstove97 on Nov 26, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Good job.

I’ve never seen so many double standards set on one page.

slow clap

by budfudlacker on Nov 26, 2010 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

bad thing is

i wouldnt be at all surprised to see ol Rev Nutt win this. the games have swung that way the past few years…

Remember the Maine!

by CoastalCowbell on Nov 26, 2010 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

How does Jeremy Flint's post as MSU blogger for SB Nation...

how does that “damn” State? Also, one person represents the MSU psyche? Generalize much? Oh wait, I forgot where I was.

by hailstate on Nov 26, 2010 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

The MSU psyche...

…as I have seen it, is exactly how it has been described here. It is a psyche that puts a chip on State fans’ shoulders, causes them to take more joy in Ole Miss’ failures than their own team’s successes, and has them believing that everything will eventually go against them.

At first, I thought this attitude was unique to my best friend, who is a rabid State fan. But just in the past year I’ve seen the attitude in pretty much every State fan I’ve encountered, save for the ones who refuse to participate in the sort of nonsense that Flint apparently revels in

by Tupelo Reb on Nov 26, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really think UM fans are “too good” to partake in the same type of behavior? Really? Christ, how naive can one be. Just look at garbage spewed by your pretentious ilk in this one insignificant article.

by budfudlacker on Nov 26, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey now...

…I didn’t say anything about Ole Miss fans in my response. My response was only meant to say that my own experiences and observations tell me that this article’s characterization of State fans is fairly accurate.

by Tupelo Reb on Nov 26, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

On the other hand, this article and the comments define the collective pretentious, uppity attitude of UM fans toward MSU fairly accurately as well. My experiences, of course.

It doesn’t matter anyway. The feelings are mutual and this argument will never be won by either side. Besides, this is just RCR’s weekly post bitching about MSU/Mullen anyway, so I have no idea why I bit this one.

Later.

by budfudlacker on Nov 26, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Weekly?

You must not visit much.

"Go then, there are other worlds than these"-The Gunslinger

by ARebel21 on Nov 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Huh?

That to me? I’ve been posting here since before they moved to SBNation

"Go then, there are other worlds than these"-The Gunslinger

by ARebel21 on Nov 27, 2010 12:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not you ARebel21... it was directed to budfudlacker..

I wouldn’t say he’s another gonzo, but I do think it’s funny how some arky/ msu fans" bitch" post here, yet don’t post on their own teams board.

by hotstove97 on Nov 27, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we've had maybe four or five posts about Mullen ever.

And it’s Egg Bowl week so you can just fucking get over it.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 27, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

You are missing the point altogether.

We’ve been at this for two-and-a-half years now. We’ve worked happily and amicably with bloggers and commenters from literally every other SEC blog we’ve encountered. We’ve even got decent working relationships with, amongst others, LSU, Alabama, and Tennessee bloggers. Hell, we’ve even civilly talked football with FWtCT before.

I know this isn’t a profession with written rules or ethical codes, but for a guy, who we’ve happily shared info with before, to contact us and “initiate” a post exchange with this silliness is ridiculous (hence the ridicule). It would be insulting if it weren’t unintentionally hilarious.

And don’t pull the “zomg ur generalizin” shit. What the fuck am I supposed to do, conduct a survey of every State fan I know? Of course I’m generalizing; I’m making widespread-ish claims based on specific circumstances. Find one person, anywhere, who doesn’t do that. Generalizations are always the result of some truth and, trust me when I say this, there is truth to the claim that State fans have perhaps never been more childish and obnoxious than they are right now. Y’all can’t handle even the slightest modicum of success, especially while Ole Miss struggles, and for me as a Rebel fan to say that is pretty damned significant. Furthermore, you’re all collectively acting like the “stop hitting yourself” kid right now by just being antagonistic for the fucking sake of it.

The fact that Flint didn’t pull such immature bullshit this last season is all the evidence I need to demonstrate just how much the collective psyche of Mississippi State fans has changed. I’ve been a Mississippian for fifteen of my twenty-four years, and I’ve never seen y’all act this way. You’ve always annoyed the hell out of me, which I suppose is natural in any rivalry, but shit’s just getting out of hand.

This doesn’t mean that I hate State fans. Hell, I had lunch with a diehard State fan today, in fact. I just think you’ve allowed all of this TSUN idiocy (y’all really do sound like fucking idiots walking around proudly saying “DA SKOOL UP NORTH HAHA U TURDS”, like really).

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 27, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

....to get to your heads.

That’s how that was supposed to end.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 27, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

*shakes head*

Who is inside of whose head?

by hailstate on Nov 27, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We, sir...

…are in your heads. Always have been. Always will be.

And we would STILL be in your collective heads even if we DIDN’T hold that sweet ownership title on this series, but you can try and convince yourself otherwise.

I vacillate between wishing y’all well and wanting to revel in a complete moo u implosion, because in my heart of hearts feels compassion for my relatives and friends who are dawg fans. I start to feel okay about being “the bigger man” and wishing y’all well. Then this jack-ass blogger of yours pulls some shit like this and I have NO problem giggling to myself at how IDIOTIC & JUVENILE your representatives end up being in situations like this.

Act like you have some class even if you don’t. Then maybe you can fool us into thinking you do and some of us might ease up on being so “uppity” as you put it.

Remember in November.

by tlcreb17 on Nov 27, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's damning because, as JUCO mentions earlier...

SBNation is an excellent network of sports blogs, and the operators of those blogs are actually paid (a little) to provide entertaining sports coverage. The fact that this Flint asshole is the best that SBNation could find to cover MSU sports has got to be embarrassing. Right? State fans know, on some rudimentary level, what it is to feel shame? Right?!?!

by Whiskey Wednesday on Nov 27, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Shame?

Over not having a decent blog? Seriously? State has 3 pay sites and one good indepedent message board. There are plenty of places for State fans to go to read interesting takes on the Bulldogs.

A Roll Bama Roll-like site would be nice, but I’m not going to fault the fan base for having better things to do than run a blog for little pay. I used run the MSU blog before Flint took it over, but gave it up because frankly my Big Boy Job/family is a lot more important than writing snarky things about the Croom coaching debacle.

And no, I don’t read this blog often – only when it pops up in my Mississippi State football Google news email alerts.

by hailstate on Nov 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right, the entire State fanbase

is just too busy and cool. That makes y’all, what, the ONLY BCS fan base in the country like that? Get a grip, dude. I understand your job and family taking up your time, I truly do, but don’t try to frame your argument with “well, shit man, we’re just too Goddamn cool for this shit.”

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 29, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

Lighten up guys. It is a rivalry game, after all. I was just trying to have a little fun and fully expected to receive a list of questions equally disrespectful.

Did the Jax State and Vandy losses really put you in that bad of a mood this year?

GTHOM!

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by The Bruce Dickinson on Nov 26, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

What the hell did you expect?

Sending shitty questions like that? The blogger Q & A is a real chance to look into teams we don’t know much about. Though.. We probably know enough about ya’ll anyway..

"Go then, there are other worlds than these"-The Gunslinger

by ARebel21 on Nov 26, 2010 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You coming to Oxford tomorrow?

We’ll have a drink waiting on you at our tailgate if so. If not, we’ll catch you next time.

Sure, we thought the questions were ridiculous, but there aren’t like, you know, hard feelings and stuff.

Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 27, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

There is a difference between

disrespecting your enemy cleverly and disrespecting your enemy idiotically. You performed the latter.

Considering changing my name to RebelBlackBearsConception

by ColRebsLastBreath on Nov 27, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Did the Jax State and Vandy losses really put you in that bad of a mood this year?

That the best you can come up with?

I thought you were supposed to be a snarky blogger in the SBN family.

Remember in November.

by tlcreb17 on Nov 27, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus, is there a bigger cheesedick fan base in football?

The only ones that even come close have to be Mem St and TAMU. It’s amazing how those questions just drip with an unquenchable thirst to be noticed.

by RedStickRebel on Nov 26, 2010 10:45 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I actually had to search SBN for their blog...

Does anyone even read it other than these guys? Apparently not, considering I see zero comments for all the work put in, more people voted on THEIR site to watch lsu/ark than the Egg Bowl… wow, what an exercise in futility.. Hell, more state fans post here, I guess they figure it ’s the only way their comments will be read…

by hotstove97 on Nov 27, 2010 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

Or maybe they don't post there...

Because it is boring and infrequently updated.

by hailstate on Nov 27, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No surprise

I an completely not surprised by the childish actions of this power happy State fan,….I think the whole this is that he is not use to someone actually taking initiative into that shitty blog of there’s…he does not know how to approach such a request….If I was a State fan (thank Jesus Christ I’m not), I would petition to get this guy removed from the blog and find a reasonable, educated ( I know this is extremely rare) State fan to post for that “blog”. Enjoy the beautiful sights of Oxford State fans, cause I feel bad for anyone that has to stay in a shit hole like Starkville, Ms.

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by Ibleedredandblue on Nov 27, 2010 10:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

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