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Dear Ole Miss

I agree, and accept the fact that it's time to move on past Colonel Reb.



But my God what the hell have you done to us?

Seriously... "The Rebel Land Shark"... When's the last time you found a shark in North Mississippi? Central Mississippi? South Mississippi? Not to mention "land shark" is a derogatory term used for lawyers! Oh wait, we do have a law school. I know the story of how this mascot came to fruition but let's be realistic about this: Something that's only been in the Ole Miss vocabulary for 3 years, "land shark", does not a mascot make - that's either cool or traditional or has SHIT to do with Mississippi. And the way our defense has been playing this season, I'm ready to call them the Land Kippers!

The Rebel Black Bear, who happens to be brown and not black, is probably the best choice out of the 3... if he didn't look so damn Yogi Bear cartoonish silly. Aside from the President Roosevelt legend about hunting bears, a bear has absolutely nothing in common with Ole Miss.. except the one that used to roam the sidelines at Alabama and kick our ass. I can just hear Alabama fans now.. "Ole Miss wants to be like us so much they named their mascot after our dead but not forgotten bad ass coach Bear Bryant!" My God Ole Miss, don't we have enough problems with Alabama without having to add anything else??

This brings us to "Hotty Toddy", or as I call him "The Rebel Silver Surfer". Just when we thought he was no more thanks to the Fantastic Four in the movie Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, he resurfaces not looking for revenge against said Fantastic Four but looking to make a mockery of Ole Miss! Horrible, horrible choice here.

The 'Selection Criteria' states: Unify the Ole Miss Community (none of these will); Have a Mississippi Connection (only the bear does this, and barely); Be Unique (how many schools with a bear mascot or name are there again?); Adapt from Grove to Game (because it's hard going from sport coat and tie to Maker's Mark stained t-shirt); Fit Ole Miss Culture (land shark is a perfect mascot for our good for nothing law school grads, anyone seen Dicky lately?); Project a Proud Image (and any one of these do?); Be Timeless, Not Trendy (as land shark is only 3 years old and about our football defense, I'd say that's trendy); Have the Ability to Be Active (as opposed to laying down at the 50-yard line and not moving the whole game?); Appeal to Children (the bear wins again)

And if this isn't enough to make you rething these 3 horrid choices, let's see what other have to say:

From Twitter:The Ole Miss potential new mascots are absolutely ridiculous & hilarious.

From Twitter:being a Tennessee fan has been tough....but at the end of the day I thank my stars I'm not an ole miss fan

From Twitter:The ole miss mascot situation has grown shameful. These options look like they were thought up by a bunch of 3 year olds with finger paints

From Twitter:Dumb Dumber & dumbest!! Good Grief!!! Ole Miss mascot designs

From Twitter:just checked out the new ole miss mascot designs. how embarrassing.



Indeed. How embarrassing. And I take it you dear fine folks at Rebel Nation HQ don't know much about social networking, except automated back-end computer posting, or you would have had a free poll right there.

Again, I'm all for a new mascot. Colonel Reb did his duty and was appropriate for his time, even if his time was a bad and shameful time. Yes, I agree, he's got to go.. and has gone. But seriously Ole Miss, you couldn't come up with anything better? ANY THING?

Respectfully and with a broken heart,

Most of the Rebel Nation

PS: Whatever happened to this guy?


You really think he's worse than this guy?

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OH NO! PEOPLE ARE MAKING FUN OF US ON TWITTER!

THE HORROR! THE AGONY!

This is a prime example of people taking this mascot bullshit either too seriously or too personally, if not both. It’s not that I don’t agree with a lot of your points, Bim Bam, because I do, but I just don’t have a strong emotional pull one way or another.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 6, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

So, it's not important to you...

I’m sure there are things that you find important that many of us couldn’t care less about. Some people think this is embarrassing to us and our school. While perhaps not an issue of worldly importance, lifelong Ole Miss fans are entitled to their grievances with these silly substitutions for Col. Reb.

by BrandonBP on Oct 6, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grieve all you want, but this isn't that big of a deal.

This will wash over and be a non-issue sooner than most people want to imagine. And I think it’s silly to get embarrassed over something which is more-or-less intentionally embarrassing.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 6, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keeping in mind,

and I can’t stress this enough, that I’m all for Colonel Reb being gone and replaced, the 3 choices we have are horrible and my point is, most people Ole Miss fans or not, can see it too. You may not care about Ole Miss’ image – and a mascot is part of that save for the 2, 3 schools that don’t have a mascot – but many of us do. And to that end, we need a kickass mascot, not some cartoons that look like Jabberjaw, Yogi Bear or Silver Surfer.

Never forget: Chucky Mullins - Tony Fein - Bennie Abram.
Once a Rebel, Always a Rebel.

"Mississippi is like my mother. I am allowed to complain about her all I want, but God help the person who raises an ill word about her around me, unless she is their mother too." - Kathryn Stockett

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 6, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be a squirrelly shit.
You may not care about Ole Miss’ image … but many of us do.

Don’t try to pull that. Seriously.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 6, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're the one

that has said a thousand times you don’t give a shit. What else should I take from that??

Never forget: Chucky Mullins - Tony Fein - Bennie Abram.
Once a Rebel, Always a Rebel.

"Mississippi is like my mother. I am allowed to complain about her all I want, but God help the person who raises an ill word about her around me, unless she is their mother too." - Kathryn Stockett

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 6, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't give much of a shit about the mascot.

Ole Miss’ image is something I care dearly about. But the mascot thing is only an issue of image to Ole Miss fans and derpy-ass Mississippi State and LSU fans. Fuck what they think.

The national media, big time donors, and other academic institutions couldn’t caer less what our mascot is, and THAT is what matters to yours truly.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 6, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK. Come up with your own design.

Seriously, do it. If it does not come out similar to the options we have, i.e. goofy and disappointing in some way, you will be lambasted for having something that tries to be too realistic, but isn’t.

Mascots, even at schools with TRADISHUNS n SHIZ, look stupid and no one judges them for it. How many people care about that dumb looking thing at Ohio State games or the ridiculous USC trojan or Alabama’s goofy elephant? TRICKED YA! That’s not the question. It is rather WHO cares about them? The answer: pre-teens.

Once you’re passed that age, you care about Ws.

So if little kids want to run up to the yet to be named stupid-looking mascot and beg mommy and daddy for a picture, we have a winner.

Devote your time elsewhere.

I'm a Rebel, but I bleed the cherry and silver of the Lobos.

by Role Player on Oct 6, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm A-Ok with Jabberjaw

He’s got the voice of Curly from the Three Stooges, the dark-haired girl was hot, and Method Man has used Jabberjaw as a nom de mike on occasion. There’s a lot to like for me.

Yogi Bear, meh, but he was awful rebelious when it came to rules about picnics. His tie and hat combo would translate easily to Grove attire.

by victory drive on Oct 13, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

PS

That dude looks like Colonel Sanders on steroids. I would rather have silver-frat man than him.

I'm a Rebel, but I bleed the cherry and silver of the Lobos.

by Role Player on Oct 6, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Look

It’s fine that you and you don’t care about the mascot. We get it. But many of us do. Respect that instead of resorting to calling us children and putting us down. You don’t care about the mascot? Great. That’s your right and I support it. Do the same.

Never forget: Chucky Mullins - Tony Fein - Bennie Abram.
Once a Rebel, Always a Rebel.

"Mississippi is like my mother. I am allowed to complain about her all I want, but God help the person who raises an ill word about her around me, unless she is their mother too." - Kathryn Stockett

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 6, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I never once called you a child nor did I put you down - that is,

at least until you questioned my devotion to Ole Miss (or her image, at least). I attacked your arguments and motives. If you can’t handle that, then you need to move on.

I can respect a person without respecting their opinions.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 6, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't referring to you

about the children part.

Never forget: Chucky Mullins - Tony Fein - Bennie Abram.
Once a Rebel, Always a Rebel.

"Mississippi is like my mother. I am allowed to complain about her all I want, but God help the person who raises an ill word about her around me, unless she is their mother too." - Kathryn Stockett

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 6, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things:

1-I do care about the mascot, but it has to be a process after which you settle. This is not an issue for idealists.
2-I guess you could interpret what I said as calling you a child – and I think that is the truth from time to time – but my comment was more about boiling it down to the essentials. Whay really matters? That children have something to go give a high-five. Any other argument holds nothing on the need the mascot fills for children. Image? Look at other money-making dominant programs – not important! Donors? Same answer. Alumni? They get over it, same answer.

I'm a Rebel, but I bleed the cherry and silver of the Lobos.

by Role Player on Oct 6, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solutions

Ive been dealing with this all day on campus. People that complain and do nothing for the situation. I’m a very active person on campus and I voice my opinion a lot, but we (the students) were told we are getting a new mascot. Period. These are the choices. If you dont like them start a petition, write a letter to the chancellor, or my favorite, vote. There are so many people that are “boycotting” the vote today, when it would be more productive if you just went to the website and took the poll. Believe me, I want Colonel Reb back too, but that is not an option. Work with what your given or create what is not.

Has Dan Jones left yet?

by Muddy Waterloo on Oct 6, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

just win football games

I don't really work or live in jackson now.......shit?

by shitnowiworkinjackson on Oct 6, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Exhibit A is the #2 team in the country with, basically, the same sort of logo we've been presented with.

It must be positively excruciating to be an Ohio State fan and see that garbage on the first page of Google results for “Brutus Buckeye.”

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by Ivory Tower on Oct 6, 2010 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

it is simply amazing

the amount of people that are complaining about the mascots. where was this feedback when we (the students of the University of Mississippi) were brainstorming ideas for the new mascot? If you participated then clearly your idea was not enough to break in the first wave of mascot ideas we had. Since we have no other choices of mascots we should A. Shut the hell up crying about the mascot choices B. Vote on them because NOT VOTING IS THE SAME AS YOU MAKING UP NEW MASCOT IDEAS…. uuuhhhh NOTHING! and finally C. Embrace the new mascot and hopefully we will warm to it. THANKS!

XperienceAmazin.... Home of the SEC

by XperienceAmazin on Oct 6, 2010 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

REALLY

As a student…I think that people should vote but the whole situation is pretty crazy. If you remember last spring when the DM posted an article the day of the vote that said that Dan Jones and the administration was going to have a new mascot no matter what and the vote was simply to see if the Students wanted an opinion in the process. Yea that article was bull..the next day Dan Jones said that the article was wrong but would not issue a re-vote. I remember..that was the biggest load of garbage that I’ve ever seen. The whole process was ridiculous! Hotty & Toddy didn’t make it through the first vote but some how the committee was able to push it through. If i was a betting person i would say that Hotty Toddy wins and there is a huge money grab for the school if it does. That would give them the copy rights for “hotty toddy” so every shirt , cup , hat, sign…anything that has hotty toddy in it. People that would want to put that on anything would have to pay rights fees to the school. Pretty smart but pretty wrong. Remember what happened in NOLA with “who dat” …same thing. Just some food for thought….oh and for the record i voted for the Black Bear (he’s brown by the way)

by JoshHottyToddy on Oct 6, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't so much entertain conspiracy theories around here.

If you’ve got proof and evidence ‘n’ shit of clandestine wheelin’ and dealin’ by Dan Jones, then come out with it.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 7, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its not a theory

If you were attending school in the spring it was a conspiracy it was real life and I didnt say that Dan Jones was behind it. I personally think Dan Jones is a great guy (even though i dont agree with him much). I’m just saying that the DM screwed up last spring and that they would not give a re-vote and anyone who paid attention in the spring saw that.

by JoshHottyToddy on Oct 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was a student last spring

And read most issues of this alleged “DM.” I’m pretty sure they printed what actually wound up on the ballot, so I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.

There's a darkness on the edge of town.

by Evil Betty on Oct 7, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

False.

You misunderstood the article. I work for the DM and I was present and involved when all of that happened. The mascot issue went hand-in-hand with the FDWL issue, which were ultimately about doing further changes to the image of Ole Miss and continuing what had been started by Chancellor Khayat.

The administration decided that the school needed a new mascot, and it was either going to be a student lead process or an administrative appointed one. They gave students the option to vote yes or no for deciding on a new mascot. Admiral Ackbar was started as an off-shoot of that campaign, pointing out to people that voting “no” would give the administration the power to choose the mascot, not the students.

We didn’t screw up. A lot of people just didn’t really understand everything that was going on because they either jumped on the bandwagon too late, or didn’t care in the first place, or stuck their feet in the ground and refused to have any mascot other than the Colonel.

by missgrove on Oct 9, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you didn't hear the feedback before.

It’s because you weren’t paying attention and didn’t want to hear it. It’s been a hot discussion topic since the initial vote to have a new mascot.

by Wild Rebel on Oct 6, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

that unless you’re a season ticket holder or alumni, you didn’t get a say in the matter. Sorry I didn’t graduate from Ole Miss. I’m a bad Rebel. I have no say in the matter. I should be punished by not being allowed to vote – regardless of how much money I’ve donated to a school I love but didn’t graduate from. Shame shame.

Never forget: Chucky Mullins - Tony Fein - Bennie Abram.
Once a Rebel, Always a Rebel.

"Mississippi is like my mother. I am allowed to complain about her all I want, but God help the person who raises an ill word about her around me, unless she is their mother too." - Kathryn Stockett

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 7, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's a badass though

I don't really work or live in jackson now.......shit?

by shitnowiworkinjackson on Oct 7, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

I didn’t know that and apparently neither does the Alumni Association since in 17 years I’ve been sending donations, they haven’t bothered to mention it to me.

Never forget: Chucky Mullins - Tony Fein - Bennie Abram.
Once a Rebel, Always a Rebel.

"Mississippi is like my mother. I am allowed to complain about her all I want, but God help the person who raises an ill word about her around me, unless she is their mother too." - Kathryn Stockett

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Houston Nutt is a "Life" Member

gonna be akward to explain that one if he leaves/is fired down the road.

Just another "good for nothing law school grad".

by RebelBarrister on Oct 8, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since When do Mascots have anything to do With Location...

Jesus, I really have no patience for people who take such trivial issues so damn seriously. Economics, foriegn policy, pussy, football; These are all more important than cartoon characters. Members of Save the Old White Guy Who Was Based on an Old Black Guy Foundation: Give it a rest, get laid, and move on…thankyouandgoodnight

by RebelsforRonPaul on Oct 7, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i agree!

last time i checked i haven’t seen any red elephants in alabama….

XperienceAmazin.... Home of the SEC

by XperienceAmazin on Oct 7, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but

it’s our own damn committee who made the “Have a Mississippi connection” rule, not me or Alabama. They didn’t even follow their own rules.

Never forget: Chucky Mullins - Tony Fein - Bennie Abram.
Once a Rebel, Always a Rebel.

"Mississippi is like my mother. I am allowed to complain about her all I want, but God help the person who raises an ill word about her around me, unless she is their mother too." - Kathryn Stockett

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am like Ghost on this issue

Don’t care, but it would be cool if we eventually got a live bear like Baylor. it would be cool to build an enclosure by the stadium, but think some drunk fraternity guy would end up getting eaten by the bear…Anyway like before MORE important things going on at Ole miss than this…

by hotstove97 on Oct 17, 2010 2:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Then why the need to have a mascot?

It’s just a prerequisite to a name change for sure.

The only thing that sucks worse than Arkansas is the fact we had a Bear forced on us for a mascot.

Fuck the hogs and their fucked up delusional fans!

by ramblinrebel1 on Oct 18, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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