Rebel Roundup - 9/7/09 - Not Very Labor Intensive
What else is there?
Memphis. We beat them. By a lot. We played horrible ball and still blew them out. There. Other than that, have a happy Labor Day or whatever.
Snead, Rebels shake slow start to put down Tigers | ESPN
This is ESPN's game recap, complete with a highlight reel.
Ole Miss finishes Memphis' football fun on field, in stands | The Commercial Appeal
Here's the Commercial Appeal's recap which mentions little on-field action in favor of talking about Memphis tailgates and fan antics. Apparently, Memphis fans tried to get the tritest and most uninspiring of stadium antics, the "wave," started during yesterday's game, only to have it thwarted by unwilling Rebel fans. Good work, Rebs. The wave is lame and you know it. The comments under the recap are more-or-less what we've come to expect: inexplicable vitriol and poor spelling.
Rebs finds groove in 4th quarter in season-opening rout of Tigers | The Clarion-Ledger
And finally, Brandt's recap. He does a good job focusing on the Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde like performance of the offense, even making a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde reference!
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Where's the beef?
Ghost,
Questions:
(1) The Ole Miss O-line absolutely played like shit yesterday. At what point before the Alabama game will this O-line start playing like it belongs on a top 10 team?
(2) Did Patrick Patterson get in the game yesterday, and if so, how was he utilized?
It’s important he get’s a few reps.
(3) If the O-line doesn’t improve dramatically, will Jevan improve his throwing while running for his life against SEC defenses?
(4) Things may change somewhat, but with observations of yesterday’s offense, would it be safe to say Dexter McCluster is going to be the leading reciever for the Rebels, much like Peyton Hillis was for the Razorbacks in ’07? Dex looked like a smaller version of a Hillis clone yesterday.
Marcus Monk was almost always double-teamed, similar to how Shey Hodge was at times.
(5) Was the Rebel defense as dominating as you thought they would be against a very weak Tiger offense?
(6) I thought the Rebel STs were the most prepared of the entire team yesterday. Would you agree?
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 7, 2009 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll bite.
1. I don’t know, but they certainly do need to improve.
2. He got 5-10 snaps. We threw to him once, but he slipped on his comeback, and Jevan threw a bad pass. I agree that it is important that he get some reps, though I’m not sure why you’re concerned that he may not be getting enough reps.
3. We’re all concerned about pass protection. Last season, we saw a huge improvement on the offensive line after the Memphis game, so I’ll wait to dole out final judgment on them.
4. Dexter may be the leading receiver for Ole Miss, but I don’t understand how you can argue that he’s a Peyton Hillis clone. They’re nothing alike. Dexter was used on several plays past ten yards from the LOS.
5. Yes and no. They struggled wrapping up some against running backs. The secondary is much better than I anticipated.
6. Yeah. Coach Shibest is awesome.
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by Juco All-American on Sep 7, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW...
Congrats on the win.
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by Juco All-American on Sep 7, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weak Tiger Offense?
Memphis was a top-25 offense last year and returned every significant statistical leader from that offense. I’d hardly call that “weak.”
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 7, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Wave
They were trying to start it on the play when the Tigers were going for it on 4th and 1 at mid-field. Powe blew it up and we went on to score the TD that finally put the game away.
Excuse us, dumbasses, for recognizing an important moment in the actual football game and refusing to watch the rest of the crowd.
by Bill Fremp on Sep 7, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Comepare. Enjoy.
http://www2.nwanews.com/blogs/slophouse/2009/09/07/just-how-impressive-was-arkansas-offense/
http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2009/09/06/razorback_central/090709fbcuafolo.txt
*Note: This is where the difference in actual coaching starts to kick in.
There’s a big difference in actually building a program with your own players, compared to just motivating someone elses.
Ghost,
You could put the Memphis QB on Florida’s team and they would be nothing more than an average offense at best.
Please don’t make excuses, it makes you look small.
Arkansas offense would have beat your defenses ass yesterday.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 7, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry.
I forgot that Missouri State is better than Memphis.
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by Juco All-American on Sep 7, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arkelon Hall isn't an SEC caliber QB, but he had good numbers last season
and Memphis’ receivers are NFL-worthy. Also, Curtis Steele was a 1,000 yard back last season. Memphis’ offense has legitimate skill, Gonzo.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 7, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I wanted to see exactly how bad Missouri State has been against BCS teams the last few years...
Turns out that they generally play one BCS team per year, the rest being “Championship Subdivision” teams. Previous results:
57-13 L @ Oklahoma St. in 2008
61-10 L @ Kansas St. in 2007 (KState was 5-7 that year)
52-10 L @ Oklahoma St. in 2006
Pretty awesome.
Memphis generally plays one or two BCS teams per year, usually gets beat by a decent margin, but then holds up well in CUSA action, which, as much trash as I talk about it, is better than the Great Southern Conference that MoSt. plays in.
Memphis would beat Missouri State about as badly as we beat Memphis, I’d suspect. As for things that make you look small, being an antagonistic little bitch over the Internet is pretty high up there. Ole Miss will still probably beat Arkansas this year, and in the process, will use several players that he recruited. We’ll be alright, Gonzo, I promise.
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by Juco All-American on Sep 7, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was actually
Whiskey Wednesday’s comment. I logged in on his computer over the weekend.
Log out Dawg.
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by Juco All-American on Sep 8, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Experience is important for young, talented playmakers.
Juco,
The fact that Patterson barely got any playing time, must less any touches, means absolutely nothing to me, other than to prove a point.
If he’s so good, he should be seeing significant action against the weaker teams to develope as a player before the real games begin.
If this doesn’t happen soon, he’ll be a non-factor this season, especially if the O-line doesn’t shape up quike.
Shay Hodge can’t be the only capable down-field threat on the team for any real sucsess this season.
Juco,
My point about McCluster being compared to Hillis doesn’t mean they’re the exact same type of players, only that Nutt is using them in the exact same manner with the passing game. There’s no difference.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 7, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But...
I guess I just didn’t realize that Peyton Hillis lined up at split end, flanker, in the slot, at halfback, and at QB.
I also didn’t realize that Nutt called 25 yard posts into the end zone for Hillis.
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by Juco All-American on Sep 7, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not hardly.
It’s not that Missouri St. is better, it’s just that Ole Miss isn’t top 10. Not even close.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 7, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I realize that you're content with this statement...
and you may be right.
But I don’t think that you can judge that off of one game.
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by Juco All-American on Sep 7, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TheBraveDude,
I think one of your celebrations should come after every game. SO IT IS WRITTEN, SO MUST IT BE DONE.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 8, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
preseason rankings....
are what they are….its kinda ironic how much of a crap shoot they can be and yet the potential amount of impact they can make at the end of the season (ie undefeated auburn not getting into the BCS because of starting so low ranked preseason compared to USC and OU)
did ole miss play like a “top 10” team on sunday? no
does this mean they are not a “top 10” team in the nation? i dont think so
also, first games of the season are what they are….generally, offenses have not meshed yet and butterflies are abound in all stomachs. this is why a season is 12-13 weeks long and why you take each of those weeks one at a time
i herd u liek mudkipz?
by smeargle on Sep 7, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your still missing the point.
Peyton Hillis was a FB that lined up at TB, the slot back position and TE.
He was the leading reciever on the team, which featured Marcus Monk at the FL position.
No other recievers were used consistantly enough in Nutt’s run-based (one-deminsional) offense to keep Monk from getting double-teamed on almost every 3rd down play.
Peyton Hillis was Arkansas leading reciever in’07, just like McCluster will be this season.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your (sic) still missing the point.
First off, let me start by saying I love Hillis and that this is no knock on him. However, you said it best, he was a FB that lined up at those other positions. Dexter is a much, much, much better athlete than HIllis. I for one will not be suprised (or disapointed) if he is our leading reciever (sic) this year. He is a beast. Also, Monk was the only “weapon” not in the backfield for that Ar-Kansas team. We have a whole group of WR better than anything else Nutt had then. Breaux, Summers, and Pat Patterson (at some point) will be legit SEC WR.
by astaylo1 on Sep 7, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So your point is that
a WR is our leading receiver?
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by Juco All-American on Sep 7, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just blew my mind dude! Lol
by TheBraveDude on Sep 8, 2009 12:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for proving my point with your "little bitch" comment, Ghost.
You couldn’t make yourself sound smart, so you had to resort to horseshit as usual.
The general consensus here is that one could not speculate an entire season judging by the first game of the season only. I assume that means the Missouri St. game also.l
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 8, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't call you a "little bitch."
Nice try.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 8, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I called you a little bitch. Logged on as JUCO's name. Let me now claim it.
First of all, remember that you’re here. We’re not commenting on an Arkansas website. As with the plaintiff in a trial, the “burden of proof” kinda lies with you, since you have enough of an agenda to come here and stir stuff up all the time.
Your logic has a way of turning backwards on itself. You instigate the whole discussion with talk about how concerned we should be about what’s happening in the first game, which we won by 31 points. You choose to compare our blowout to your blowout, disregarding the fact that, thought your margin of victory was larger, your opponent was weaker. Then you react to us calling you out on your poor comparison by saying, essentially, “hey guys, lay off; you can’t tell much from the first game, just like you said about your team.”
I don’t have to make myself sound smart; you do it for me, by comparison. I agree that our respective first games don’t mean much, but if you must come around and point out every little perceived flaw in our coaching decisions, I’ll point out where I think you’re wrong. I still think we’ll win when you come into town. I still think we’ll have a better season. I still think that our coaching staff knows what it’s doing and will put us in a position to win. I’m no paid football analyst, but I can say with confidence that my analysis of our team is generally more informed and less guided by blind hate and lame inferiority than yours. Good day, sir.
by Whiskey Wednesday on Sep 9, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My analysis will speak for itself in just a matter of weeks.
Whiskey,
I realize you believe to know quite a bit about your coaching staff. I, on the other hand am quite confident you know far less than claimed.
My bad on the accusation of Ghost calling me names, but really guys, you couldn’t piss me off or even come close to hurting my feelings either way.
Ghost,
I get the drift on your little history lesson on Missouri St’s. past games. I wonder if maybe next time you might take enough time out to realize that Arkansas game with the Bears differs dramatically from those other teams.
Arkansas substituted players wholesale in and out of that game from start to finish.
13 different players recorded receptions, while 7 more rushed the football (142 rushing yards). The 2nd string QB (Tyler Wilson) played extensively throughout the game, connecting on 13 of 19 passes for 138 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT. (447 yards passing total with Mallett)
On the defensive side of the ball, nothing more than a base straight up 4-3 defense was shown. rarely a blitze, stunt or even a nickel package was thrown at the Bears spread offense.
It wasn’t your typical game where the 1st team offense and defense smash the weaker team for 3 1/2 qrs., letting a handful of the reserves finish out the remaining 8 minutes of the ball game.
We’ll see much more of what the coaches have in mind for the season against Georgia.
No sir, things will be handled quite a bit different around these parts from now on, since the “coaching idiot from hell” now lives in Oxford.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 9, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who in the fuck are you talking to?
I didn’t say a damn thing about a “history lesson on MO St.” That was JUCO. Do you even know who is who? I mean, dammit Gonzo, you’ve been hanging around us for nearly a damned year. And PLEASE use the reply button.
And I don’t get your point about all of the subs ‘n’ shit. Your game against MO St was a glorified practice so of course there were a ton of subs. Do not for one second fool yourself into thinking your coaches treated it the way they would treat a legitimate SEC game.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 10, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonzo Goes to Town

Given the New Year’s attire, this is obviously a very old picture. . . .Oh, wait! Check that. Arkansas last played in a New Year’s Day Bowl on January 1, 2008. Though he had already made the best move in his life by then, it was the “hated” Houston Nutt at the helm throughout the Razorbacks’ 2007 season. No wonder Gonzo is seething….it’s gonna be a long, long road back to Dallas, or anywhere comparable.
by sutpens100 on Sep 10, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck does it matter, Ghost?
All of you yayhoos sound exactly the same, spilling garbage can after garbage can, scratching each others balls, and salivating tirelessly over a head coach who’s destiny will revert back to mediocrity once again.
Guess what, Ghost? You do fucking get it, because the fact that high school team the Hogs played last weekend doesn’t compare to SEC competition is exactly the point i’m making.
They didn’t even have to breath hard to blow that team out, signifying a fucking ton of improvement over last season, which by the way showed almost the exact same players going against the exact same kind of competition in Western Illinois.
The Hogs trailed in that game late in the 4th qr.
So here’s the difference. If the Hogs are much improved, looking unbeatable against the exact same caliber team, where does Ole Miss stand, looking exactly the same or maybe even worse against the exact same team? Top 10 team? All of you need to get your fucking heads examined!
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 10, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gonzo.... seriously.
They didn’t even have to breath hard to blow that team out, signifying a fucking ton of improvement over last season
FIND ONE GODDAMN EXAMPLE WHERE WE SAID ARKANSAS HAS NOT IMPROVED. JUST. FUCKING. ONE. YOU. FUCKING. RUBE.
where does Ole Miss stand, looking exactly the same or maybe even worse against the exact same team
Ole Miss played a slightly better game overall against Memphis this season than last season. Check out TeamSpeedKills’ analysis I’m linking in today’s Rebel Roundup (which will be for Friday… not Monday, like this one… fuck me why am I still commenting in a 4 day old Rebel Roundup thread?) and see for yourself.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 11, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, slap my Momma on the ass and shoot my little sister with bee-bee gun!!
Holy fucking shit! You guys really are the the sexy little media darlings of this era aren’t you?
It would take a real idiot like GonzoHog to disagree with such an organized and professionalized group such as the national media.
There’s never ever been any bullshit associated with those brainiacs. What the fuck was I thinking? You guys are awesome!
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 12, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck you.
I didn't come here to be nice.
by No Quarter on Sep 12, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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