What have we learned?
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT
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Stephen Garcia is no loger terrible.
Hell, I might even venture to say he's "good-esque." While not possessing the moxie and physical abilities of Jevan Snead somebody else, he marched his offense down field on several occasions against a strong Rebel defense. I'm still taken aback as to how well he has matured since his arrival in Columbia.
Jevan Snead is still Jevan Snead.
Remember how Jevan Snead, one week before defeating Florida in the Swamp, threw four interceptions against Vanderbilt last season? Yep. He hasn't changed a bit. The Brett Favre of college football struck again last night, completing only a third of his passes and generally looking dumbstruck. The South Carolina defense is good, our playcalling was suspect, and our offensive line was weak, but Snead didn't help the offense very much. If the trend remains, he'll likely torch Vanderbilt.
Well, we didn't learnthat at all. Still, the guy's a hoss and deserves every ounce of praise which has been heaped upon him.
Our defense is good.
Once again, something we didn't necessarily learn, but something which we certainly gained a better understanding of. Our pass defense is leagues better than it was last season and our defensive line is still quite capable at stopping the run. They will keep us in every game we play.
Our offensive line, on the other hand, well...
I hope to avoid this becoming the Cup's broken record statement of the week, but Bradley Sowell has no idea what he is doing. John Jerry was, very surprisingly, also performing poorly. Neither of them had the mental presence or the nasty streak (that is not an underwear joke) needed to play tackle in the SEC. Oher is one of the best Rebel linemen of all time not because of his size or athleticism, but because of his football knowledge and his undying insistence on being the meanest son-of-a-bitch on the line.
The coaches did not prepare well for South Carolina.
I know so much of our offense is predicated on good line play and I know that Jevan was making some absolutely poor choices out there, but the play-calling seemed, at times, like the coaches decided against reviewing tape of the Gamecock defense. Furthermore, is something wrong with Dexter McCluster? Why did it take the coaches three quarters to get him the ball as often as they should have?
Chicken Little is alive and well.
Rebel fans, the sky is not falling. We knew we would stumble somewhere because damn near every team does. Teams can recover from such setbacks and the truly elite ones do. This game doesn't prove that we're not as good as other people said we were, but the following ones will.
They all "told us so."
But, see, they didn't. Nobody here said we would go to Atlanta. Nobody here said we would win every game we played. We said we had legitimate shots of doing so, especially with regards to the former, but nobody predicted it. Sure, there were plenty of Rebel fans that said we would, but I would venture that most of us saw something like this coming. We've come to expect it in Oxford. People have been telling us that we don't deserve the number four ranking and, even before last night, I agreed. So please, spare yourself the effort if you're planning on coming over here to say the same. shit. we. hear. every. day. We expected your arrival when and where ever we were going to suffer our first loss because, yes, despite what you think about yourselves, you're all predictable dipshits.
Suffice it to say that I have really been able to probe into the psyche of the average college football fan pretty well over the last few months. This has been an interesting time to be a Rebel fan if not for the unchartered perspective from the top. Being undeservedly ranked so highly brought out hordes of people hell-bent on letting everybody know just how overrated we were--as if somehow their opinions were some sort of great paradigm shifting realization. Perhaps I haven't been paying attention, but I have never--and I mean never--seen such vitriol against a non-traditional top-10 team being ranked thusly. Is it because people are scared of the idea of Ole Miss being a good football team? Is it because everyone, deep down inside, hates Ole Miss? Is it simple playa hatin'? Maybe it's a little of each, but who knows. After this weekend the morons having their moment (not you, South Carolina fans, enjoy your moment) in the sun will quiet down and go back to poorly typing stupid shit on TigerDroppings.com.
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You absolutely can’t expect an adequate team of refs in the SEC. Not blaming the refs for losing, God knows we handled blowing the game on our own just fine, but the roughing the kicker no call? the face mask no call? those are just two horrible ones that effectively killed potential scoring drives.
I just hope we play like a team that’s not feeling pressure from here on out. I mean, clearly some of our players (looking at you Bradley) can;t handle it.
We’re still in good shape, but that loss stings, and makes it really hard to believe we can beat Bama in two weeks. We’re a month into the season. It’s time to get our shit together and play like a fucking team that is trying to win games.
by RedStickRebel on Sep 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We lost the game ourselves...
…but the refs helped a lot. If they would have called that damn blatant and oh so obvious 15-yard face mask penalty, we would have been playing 1st and 10 instead of 4th and 19 on that last possession and I dare say would have scored for the win the way Dexter was owning that field.. if Nutt would have given him the ball – something he did only 4 times in the first 3 quarters.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken
by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Sep 25, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have some things to think about
We need to recruit offensive line better because…damn
by TheBraveDude on Sep 25, 2009 12:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Question
So I ready this blog this morning, and everyone was piling on Sowell:
TIME THE FUCK OUT…
From ESPN.com
“I’m glad it’s gone,” left tackle Bradley Sowell said of the high-intensity spotlight, “so we can just get back to basics and win ballgames.”
Get the fuck out of my University, you weak sack of shit. You lost the game. You did. I feel sick. Have fun watching the coaches scramble to replace your sorry ass in the starting lineup. Nice quote, you sad, sad loser.
Which I thought was a bit harsh for critisism of a student athelete, but hey you get caught up in the heat of the moment and well, we’ve all been there. But, then I went home, to wait for my new couch to be delivered, popped on sportscenter, and they were playing a video clip of Jevan Sneed saying something like this:
“I’m glad the ranking is gone, now we can just play some real football. I don’t care about it.”
Is your reaction to Sneed’s comments the same to Sowell’s? That seems pretty weak for the leader of the team to say…
by LSU Jonno on Sep 25, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was it an actual video clip of Snead saying it?
Like, you saw him moving his lips and those noises we call “words” came out? And they happened to be those words? Because I didn’t see that at all.
I was told today by someone that the Sowell quote was mis-attributed to Snead on Sportscenter. Perhaps that’s what you saw.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No this was an actual video clip, of a white boy with a frat doo, who looked like Jevan Sneed saying those words.
And there was a big note under the white boy in question that said: Jevan Sneed.
by LSU Jonno on Sep 25, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes sowell is white
and espn has since corrected the mis quote
by SouthernRebel on Sep 25, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When and where did they correct it?
I was watching the 10am edition of sports center this morning and Robert Smith still said it was Jevan Snead, as did the label under the video that they played.
by LSU Jonno on Sep 25, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they corrected it
they apologized and i watched it like literally two minutes ago. and it was bradley sowell that said it.
by SouthernRebel on Sep 25, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, ok.
Cuz damn, that would be horrible.
by LSU Jonno on Sep 25, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its still horrible
even tho its not as bad to have a fucking super tool left tackle say it as it would if the starting qb said it. they said sneads quote was something like he would play the same against an opponent no matter what his teams ranking is.
by SouthernRebel on Sep 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that upsets me too, actually, though I didn't see him say that.
I’m amazed and disgusted that the offense would handle this pressure so poorly. All you needed to do was score 17 fucking points. And as far as the criticism of a student athlete, give me a fucking break. They have everything outside of football handed to them: free education, free drinks at the bar, academic tutoring, the adoration of the entire campus when they win. When they lose, play like shit, and don’t seem to care, then media ire is the least of their problems.
by Whiskey Wednesday on Sep 25, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
APOLOGY REDACTED!!!
Snead still fucked up, but I’m sure he plans to, you know, do something about it. Sowell is still the biggest douche.
by Whiskey Wednesday on Sep 25, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a complete joke
if being a football player is so easy, why don’t you try it? They spend tons of time for practice, have to work their schoolwork around that, almost never have the time for jobs. You sound like some petty middle school kid who hates jocks and would love to be popular, for once.
And if you are going to say something about how football isn’t your thing, what is? You call yourself a writer? Your clever sentences are the ones where you only drop 3 f bombs. Get a life.
by Ianoka on Sep 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whiskey....
has never said “being a football player is so easy”. They can not have a job (per ncaa), they have free tutors (you try that one, oh, wait, you’ve never been to college?). I bet you are just some has been, two bit, ex-jock who sits on his couch all day and collects government checks. Sowell sucked. He could not have tried to block that bad and been as bad. Get over it that not everyone is either A) as big of Homer as you or B) as big of an idiot as you. Get a life.
by astaylo1 on Sep 25, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're an idiot.
First of all, football is definitely Whiskey’s thing, hence his participation in the blog. Secondly, he wasn’t saying it’s “easy.” He was simply saying that people who bitch and moan when people criticize athletes need to sack up. If you’re going to be praised when you do well, then you’re going to be lambasted when you fuck up. It’s that simple.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 26, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They definitely
could use less praise. The fact that criticism is appropriate to the level which they have been priased, presupposes that the praise is appropriate. Not that you are wrong in your assessment of how things work in the status quo, but I think that the status quo in “amateur” sports (especially big time NCAA football) is pretty whacked out. Also, it’s worth pointing out that Sowell has not really done well or been praised—rightfully so—and so the level of criticism Whiskey dished out was indeed relatively harsh.
So, while it does seem that lanoka makes himself seem like an ass—what with the insinuation that fuck (or the “f word”) is not a valid English term, and the confident assertion that Whiskey is a pedophile (he didn’t say that?)—is his fundamental objection one unworthy of consideration for a blog “changing the culture of ole miss athletics?”
by The Right Reverend on Sep 26, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't say it was easy?
“They have everything outside of football handed to them”
What about the above sentence does not imply that football players have it easy?
To astaylo1: Sowell was bad, but was he the worst player in D-1 football? He was going against one of the best pass rushers in the country. And I have no idea where you get your homer comment from. You also make contradicting points in your second sentence, one saying how hard their life is, one saying how easy it is. It would be a lot easier to take you seriously if you formed coherent sentences.
To Jay Cutler: every single post I’ve read on this blog does nothing to demonstrate that someone’s participation in it proves that they know football. I’m not saying that college athletes can’t be criticized, but try to make a point. Maybe use some thoughtful analysis, such as what went wrong, how it can be fixed, why it happened, etc. instead of cussing out a player for an entire paragraph and making no other point than you don’t like them. Another thing I find interesting is how Whiskey says that Ole Miss is “my university” when Sowell has most likely put one heck of a lot more into Ole Miss than Whiskey has. I’m not saying you can’t identify problems, or be critical, but make a point. Any 2 year old with a computer and an internet connection can say “so and so sucked. They were terrible. I hate them. They need to be replaced. Etc.”
by Ianoka on Sep 26, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what Whiskey Wednesday's post game reports have been like
for as long as this blog has existed. The whole point of them is to be a series of knee-jerk reactions. You’re obviously new here so I’ll forgive you.
We do analysis—often—it’s just not what WW does.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 26, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on...
Sorry, I understand that you think I’m just some loser on the Internet. But I’m not. I help write a website about football that gets thousands of views every day. I attended Ole Miss on full scholarship, and could have gone to dozens of other fine universities on a full scholarship. My degree centers around my ability to write well, as does my profession, so yes, I can write effectively in many different styles and situations without swearing. And no, I didn’t say football was easy. You elected to prove this in your own post, by quoting my statement that everything OUTSIDE of football was handed to them. I stand by that statement. Free tutoring, the best food, dorms, etc. The adoration of the fans when they win. No jobs… Yeah, it sucks that during the summer, they have to work out and practice football instead of getting a job.
I played a club sport at Ole Miss which I worked very hard at, pushing myself to my (very limited) physical limits. At the same time, I had a job, a real major, several hobbies, and obligations to friends and family. I spent two years in the band. I taught myself to play guitar and piano. I have a wealth of friends from Ole Miss and I don’t consider myself “unpopular,” and I certainly don’t “hate jocks.” That accusation makes me think that you are either in high school, or never really mentally left high school.
So no, I am not the degenerate lowlife that you describe. I am relatively well-balanced and well-accomplished. I love Ole Miss football, and I’ve devoted plenty of space on this website to talk about it in a positive manner. If you feel like are a better, more interesting writer, and could start a better website, please do so; we’d probably get a real kick out of it. Based on the acerbic wit and lack of football knowledge you’ve displayed whilst trying to discredit my football knowledge, I doubt you’re any more qualified to write than I’m qualified to play left tackle.
by Whiskey Wednesday on Sep 27, 2009 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Baller
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 27, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 things
First of all, that’s all great, but I would think someone whose degree revolves around their ability to write well would be easy to spot, but I guess you didn’t put too much effort into that post.
Secondly, as far as not being able to have a job, I consider that a disadvantage. They get what their scholarship gives them, and that’s it. They put much more time and effort into football than 99% of college kids put into their jobs, which I’m just guessing are a lot less physically demanding.
As for your jab about my lack of football knowledge, I don’t know how you can judge that when we haven’t had a discussion regarding football knowledge, but I’m pretty confident I would trump you in that area.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that from your above profile of yourself, if I had read that first, I would have been shocked after reading your post, because it reflects none of the above. It just sounds like a drunken frat boy’s rant. Maybe your other writing isn’t like that, but that’s what I saw.
by Ianoka on Sep 27, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was incredibly well written.
You, sir, don’t know good writing. If you’re going to immediately discredit anything that is aggressive or an employer of vulgarities as “poor writing,” then you’re completely neglecting a whole bevy of Oscar, Pulitzer, Emmy, and Nobel prize winners.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 27, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the chick on espn and robert smith
just had a conversation about the misquote on the live soprtscenter at 12:05 pm
by SouthernRebel on Sep 25, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN must think all white people look alike.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as do people from LSU apparently
i guess any white guy with a “frat” hairdo is now Jevan Snead. Sorry to all the LSU faithful that its confusing to see more than one white person in one place with all his teeth and speaking plain english.
by SouthernRebel on Sep 25, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, honest mistake by someone who doesn't follow Snead enough to know which side of his chin his latest zit is on.
At a cursory glance they looked similar. And even though I thought “Hey that doesn’t really look like Snead”, The ESPN headline was “SNEAD SPEAKS”, so I figured that I was the moron.
Lesson learned. ESPN is the moron.
by LSU Jonno on Sep 25, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is the moron.
You didn’t do anything wrong, Jonno. It’s ok.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS
Needs to be used as often as possible. I laugh out loud every time I see it.
by Role Player on Sep 25, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I smell a code red
On Sowells punk ass. He couldn’t cock block the elephant man. Is Massie that out of shape or what??
by Evilreb on Sep 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Poorly coached game.
Don’t get too unfamiliar with it as long as that staff is around.
I was hoping you guys would run the table up until the Arkansas game, just so we could take responsibility for ruining your season…
Good luck the rest of the way… until I come to town.
by YellowTailSwine on Sep 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, we're Ole Miss fans.
Don’t pretent like shitting the bed against “lesser” competition is something we were able to completely avoid until Nutt was hired. This has been going on for a long time. I’m so very sorry it doesn’t fit in with your “Houston Nutt raped my dog right before giving Patrick Swayze cancer” narrative.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In re: "They all told us so"
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Why was there such hate about us being in the top 10? Ok State was in the top 10. I thought “Cool. Somebody new is making a name for themselves.” Why is there such regional if not national joy over us losing? Maybe I’m too close to the forest to see the trees or whatever, but I’ve always figured outsiders perceived us as a harmless, hapless school with gorgeous women and first class tailgating. What is there to hate?
Yellow Tail chimes in just as I’m getting ready to post this. Case in point.
But seriousy, check plus for those last two paragraphs. You do “you’re all morons” very eloquently.
by Bill Fremp on Sep 25, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter who you are.
Everyone loves to see someone at/near the top come tumbling down. Especially those who are below.
by artiger on Sep 25, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do realize that ARTiger, and perhaps perception changes things,
but it seems to many of us like people wanted Ole Miss to fall more so than they wanted USC to fall last weekend or Oklahoma State the weekend before that.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think many people wanted USC to lose more than you guys,
but you were talking a lot of trash in the offseason.
by Ianoka on Sep 25, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were we?
Most of the “trash talk” from the Cup was very much intended for humorous purposes only.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 26, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is (your) perception that makes it seem worse
but I suspect that a lot of us got much more pleasure in seeing So Cal go down, especially at the hands of Washington.
I remember 2 years ago when we were #1, and lost to Kentucky. It seemed like every nonLSU person I knew couldn’t wait to come talk to me about it. Keep it all in perspective.
by artiger on Sep 25, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling that we are going to come out on fire against alabama
by TheBraveDude on Sep 25, 2009 3:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Better come out on fire against Vandy first.
Could be the whole problem…saving the chips to go “all in” for the Bama game. If you win big pot if you lose…busted.
by Destindune on Sep 25, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
started slow last year...
in fact slower and still had a good season.
by SouthernRebel on Sep 25, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Re:
I don’t post relentlessly about Houston Nutt on the internet. However, I will give you guys a hard time because… well, its relevant.
Look, I even had a nightmare last night about that fake fg and 12 men penalty AFTER A TIMEOUT.
Why? I saw shit like that for ten years. Yeah, it’s a major relief to see it happen to another team. I’m more than happy to point that out.
Careful next week at Vandy. Do NOT overlook it. It is a bad spot for a Houston Nutt squad.
by YellowTailSwine on Sep 25, 2009 4:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
And the whole “told you so” thing is a little ridiculous coming from media types. The Doyell column is over the top. However he’s proven to be a psychotic douchebag in the past.
My “told you so” line has nothing to do with saying “joo were oVerraTed lolzzz!!!!1” I just want to reaffirm what I’ve said about Nutt in the past. That game was a prime example.
A lot of your fanbase is calling for Kent Austin’s head on messageboards like maniacs. Don’t let Nutt use him as a scapegoat. Nutt’s hands are always firmly grasping playcalling duties. Always.
by YellowTailSwine on Sep 25, 2009 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Doyell spent part of his childhood in Oxford and
was apparently bullied as a kid or something. That thing has an anti-Ole Miss boner rivaled by very, very few.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew Gregg
I played sports with him growing up in Oxford. He was pretty much a jackass then, too. So was his dad. I have watched as his columns became rants and his rants became incoherent, abusive screeds. It is highly doubtful the guy has so much as one real friend, and his angry, ugly writing shows it.
Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.
by RobRob9 on Sep 25, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the truth.
Hate to agree, but that’s what I see. At some point in the future, Ole Miss may loose Kent Austin to the altar of the glory of Houston Nutt. Take it or leave it . . . time will tell.
by The Right Reverend on Sep 26, 2009 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Positives from an Outsider.
I live in Washington State and have been following the Rebels all season long. I mean, I’m a Washington State Cougar fan, so I have to root for someone.
So no I’m not some LSU, Arkansas, or State fan coming in here to bust everyone’s balls. Just thought I’d post some of my thoughts on the game.
- It’s hard to defend 7/21, but the offensive line play was just awful. It’s already been said, but it’s worth repeating.
- Dexter McCluster is really, really fast. When he’s in space, he is fun to watch. They need to hit him on bubble screens more often and let him rack up the YAC.
- Snead forced a lot of balls, but didn’t have time to go through his progressions. He looked at his first read, then just went to the check down to the RB in the flat because there was a SC lineman in his face. So while I’m not attributing his entire bad game on the offensive line, it’s worth mentioning again.
- Jesse Palmer, I understand Marshay Green muffed 3 punts last week. I get it. Really I do. But do you need to say it every time Green is on camera? Thanks for that in depth analysis, Bachelor. Also, I can’t believe he was tackled by the punter. I was like 187% sure he was gone.
- If Ole Miss had an average defense, it’d be a long season. Good thing for every Rebel fan, the defense looked fantastic. I mean, for the most part.
- Playcalling was awful. I feel like I could have done a better job by reading my favorite Xbox plays off to Jevan. I understand running the ball, but they realized the passing game wasn’t going to work, so they just loaded up in the box. I feel like the coaches just said “Screw it” and abandoned the passing game, except on 3rd and long, when the entire world knows you’re going to throw.
Overall, I’m not sure I just said anything other than what all of you already know or have already stated. But just know that sometimes a team needs to lose to be ‘woken up’. I fully expect people to write off Snead and the Rebs now, and I’m glad. Because all of my friends are giving me crap for picking them and it’ll be much sweeter when I can say I told you so at the end of the season.
Go Cougs and Go Rebels.
by playerkyle14 on Sep 25, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good analysis...
I wish more folks who drop by this blog took a similar approach!
by Drebel on Sep 26, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you objectivity from Washington.
Please come back soon.
by The Right Reverend on Sep 26, 2009 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well look, Snead was put in near impossible situations all night. You just can’t refuse to throw on first and second down then expect your all world quarterback to convert on 3rd and long with 2 routes and max protect.
There was no rythym to the playcalling either. After McCluster got you down the field, how do you run some dumb ass double reverse hb pass option extra value meal with a dr pepper? Run a playaction and throw up the middle. That shit was there for the taking all night and Nutt refused to go to it.
by YellowTailSwine on Sep 25, 2009 4:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t been paying attention, but I have never—and I mean never—seen such vitriol against a non-traditional top-10 team being ranked thusly. Is it because people are scared of the idea of Ole Miss being a good football team? Is it because everyone, deep down inside, hates Ole Miss? Is it simple playa hatin’?
it was really, generally, none of this. it was just the fact that ole miss’ rank wasn’t perceived as deserved, based upon the current season’s showing. it happens to all teams with a high ranking based solely on the last season’s output (any comments section will be full of similar vitriol against USC, ND, Florida, the SEC, OSU, et al). the reason it was probably worse for the rebs was that you guys were a NEW target (the slagging of all of those other teams has been going on since polls began, and saying the trojans or the irish are overrated is as natural and familiar as breathing), and got some (unfair, imo) hype from the slobbering football press.
while this site has been an oasis of realistic expectations, there are plenty of homers (even today!) clogging sites like dr. saturday still claiming ole miss will run the table and be in the championship game. a lot of the backlash results from more generalized blog comments like that than the generally sane conversations that occur on this one.
that being said, the season’s basically just begun, and you now have had a fire lit under your asses and have motivation to prove to people that you can still play. a one loss ole miss gives me more anxiety about our (bama-ole miss) meeting than an undefeated one. in this respect i understand where sowell’s comments are coming from, though he deserves every bit of shit he gets for saying it, actually being on the team and having played so poorly and all. good teams (like florida last year after you beat them) can use a setback like this as a rallying point, and i am hoping you guys will do the same in every game left, except the one on october 10.
by clarence on Sep 25, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh, perhaps
it was just the fact that ole miss’ rank wasn’t perceived as deserved, based upon the current season’s showing. it happens to all teams with a high ranking based solely on the last season’s output
But even before the season started people were doing the whole “WTF OLE MISS OMG” thing. Nobody did it about Oregon, Oklahoma State, etc to the same extent, as far as I could tell. However, my perspective is obvously very different here.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t read much of that, but the backlash is because you’re Ole Miss and you had beaten no one and had proven nothing.
Your ranking was the result of what some thought was an already too high preseason ranking followed by a move up in the polls because of losses up top.
It was Thursday night, lots of people were watching and the Rebels shit the bed and looked horrible. To not expect a backlash would be short sighted.
by YellowTailSwine on Sep 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I knew the backlash was coming. What I'm talking about is
how even before the season started, there was a huge “what the fuck is Ole Miss doing in the polls” contingency. This irked me a bit, especially when considering that Oklahoma State, a team which skidded to four straight losses to end their last season was also high in the polls and didn’t seem to generate much ire.
I highly agree that our #4 ranking was completely unwarranted. I think most people on this site felt the same way weeks ago.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I DID
I just didn’t think we were that bad
by TheBraveDude on Sep 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was feeling like that about Oklahoma State, but when you come out of the gate and skullfuck Georgia, people tend to shut the fuck up.
It muted it until the next week and everyone just shrugged and laughed off Houston shoving it up their ass.
That all transferred over to Ole Miss… I’ve seen one article that is actually calling out Nutt opposed to just bashing Ole Miss for the hell of it.
I love how the media will come out and hammer home how a team shouldn’t have been ranked so highly. Ok douchebag, why did you put them there on your poll? Media is chock full of egotistical jackoffs.
by YellowTailSwine on Sep 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's one thing that gets me.
The media saying we’re overrated when they’re the ones who compile the rankings.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a point i touched on
…and something i noticed today when reading the articles. all of these sportswriter’s were all “ole miss was overrated” like they had been saying so all along, conveniently forgetting the fact that THEY were the ones anointing the rebels #4.
the tone is one of “we told you so!”, which baffles the hell out of me. last i checked, teams have no say in where they’re ranked.
by clarence on Sep 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds kind of like . . .
Bradley Sowell earning the starting job, Ole Miss fans saying: “we’re not sure that he’s very good—hasn’t done anything impressive so far,” and then Ole Miss fans coming out in droves (on this blog anyway) to bash the “new kid on the block.” Maybe Sowell should come out and say something like: “hey, you’re the ones that gave me the job . . . it’s your fault, and by the way, I really hate how this skepticism started before I even played a down—not that you were wrong—it just irked me.”
Suffer graciously with your players. Fuck the media. You’ll be a better fan one day.
by The Right Reverend on Sep 26, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're still missing the point.
It’s not that Sowell isn’t as good as Michael Oher that drew our ire, it’s the fact that he welcomed the loss—as in he was glad it happened—because it will make it easier for him to focus. That’s pathetic, no matter which way you slice it.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 26, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you can say he welcomed it
he just said that the bright side of the loss is that now they aren’t in the spotlight. Your own blogger said the following “I’m amazed and disgusted that the offense would handle this pressure so poorly.”
I’m not saying that his comment was the smartest thing ever, but do you HONESTLY believe he was glad they lost that game? Do you think he is glad they are no longer in the national championship hunt (most likely, but you never know)? Lots of people say stuff like this, the only difference being it’s usually in between seasons, such as “nobody’s paying attention to us, and we like it that way” and similar comments.
by Ianoka on Sep 26, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What one thinks and what one says
are not always the same. Kind of like Whiskey’s post game analysis.
by The Right Reverend on Sep 27, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well there's a fucking hostage situation in oxford right now
As if this week couldn’t get any worse
by TheBraveDude on Sep 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The loss to South Carolina set the nutjob hostage taker off?
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken
by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Sep 25, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
I’m just saying things in oxford are bad right now. Don’t put words in my mouth
by TheBraveDude on Sep 26, 2009 12:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Calm down
It was a joke. I felt like taking a few people hostage myself after the loss.. namely Sowell and a ref.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken
by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Sep 26, 2009 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was saying "i told you so" way before last season even started.
Everyone on this site knows what i’ve preached about Houston Nutt from the day he set foot on the Ole Miss campus.
Heavy on the run, whlie almost non-existent in the passing game.
Markeson has never coached up great pass protection because it doesn’t mesh with Nutt’s offensive philosophy.
Every time Nutt enherits someone elses talent and experience on a new team, he goes with the flow for a little while, adjusting to the ways and philosophies of how those players were developed in the past, and gives them the motivation they’ve never recieved before.
That’s what Nutt does, he motivates. He’s a rah-rah guy. He’s the cheerleader with a whistle, out running in front of the team. How many times does this have to be proven?
This is the very beginning of what i’ve been preaching for over a year now, and everybody knows it too.
Last night, I saw an inconsistant football team that resembled the same teams I watched in Fayetteville for 10 years.
Terrible playcalling that left Snead at the mercy of the defense, (ala Casey Dick) setting him up with a 3rd and long situation time, afer time, after time.
Also, a team is a reflection of their coach, and you can see the similarities in the disapline of the team, recieving stupid penalty, after stupid penalty.
Yeah, you got it, I fucking told you so!
Alabama will probably beat Arkansas, but they have a much, much better chance of pulling the upset than Ole Miss does.
The Tide run a 3-4 defense, which means they will have to come after Mallet on a regular basis. If they don’t, he’ll pick them apart.
’Bama will simply destroy Ole Miss when Nutt attempts to call the same BS he did against the Gamecocks. Their defense is dominant against the run.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck do you want from us, Gonzo?
Seriously.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
count your blessings...
at least he hasn’t gone crazy with this yet.
by kleph on Sep 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I hate your ass
I agree with your assesment of Nutt for the most part, but I don’t think much of what you’ve accused him of outlines a coach who cannot win a lot of games. The problem though, is that we were not heavy on the run last night. We did not commit to either the run or the pass, and we certainly did not commit to something intelligent like run, run, pass, run, play action over the top. Except the drive that we scored on.
As far as Alabama “probably” beating Arkansas, please don’t be delusional. This is going to be a bloody hog slaughter, and I will be able to smell the pigs roasting all the way over here in Birmingham. Also, since you are so “level-headed” about Nutt, how can you not see that we have a much better shot at beating Alabama this year than you do? We are at home, you go to T-Town. We have a defense, you do not. Seriously, people are talking about Arkansas not stopping the pass this weekend—just wait until Ingram and Richardson get fired up. And what if McClain or Hightower get a shot on Mallet or he slips on a wet field. What if you don’t even have a quarterback when you skedaddle your sorry hog asses to Oxford this year? Again, points taken on the Nutt criticism, but what the fuck is your problem with Ole Miss? By the way, Nutt beat us a lot while he was at Arkansas—even when we had “offensive genius” David Cutcliffe and ya’ll had run heavy Nutternator. The problem for us was always lack of a running game.
by The Right Reverend on Sep 26, 2009 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It reminded me a lot of our play last year
Our defense is good.
Once again, something we didn’t necessarily learn, but something which we certainly gained a better understanding of. Our pass defense is leagues better than it was last season and our defensive line is still quite capable at stopping the run. They will keep us in every game we play.
That just reminded me of how we started out last season…mean on defense and mediocre on offense. Around the LSU/Tenn game though, our defense gave up because they became our offense. They were tired of it. Hopefully the same does not happen to you guys because it sucked. Dexter McCluster is a player, and with him I don’t think you’ll have many losses. Good luck in the next few weeks. We’ll see you all on Halloween.
by auburn tigers on Sep 25, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ghost,
Thank for letting us all know that SC’s defense is good. Georgia scored 41 points on that same football field, and since the Dawgs also scored a ton of points on the Hogs in Fayetteville, I don’t feel so bad about our pass defense anymore.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you seriously not have anything better to do?
Get a girlfriend or something…
by TheBraveDude on Sep 26, 2009 1:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hello jackass
it’s me again. My wife is out of town this weekend with the kids, so in between rounds of drinking with my buddies, and watching “Motherlover” on hulu (seriously—everyone google this if you haven’t seen it) , I am going to be doing my best to beat your sorry, poorly worded, half-assed posts back into the ground. Like that game in the arcade where you hit the alligators or ground hogs when they pop out—except way more fun.
So, first, fuck you. Second, while the English language disagrees with my interpretation of what you have written here, I am assuming that you are saying that the Arkansas defense is good or something. So . . . using your ironclad methodology . . . if Georgia scored a ton on SC, and Georgia scored a ton on ARK, and ARK scored a ton on Georgia, and SC scored a ton on Georgia, then OLE MISS has the best defense!! And your lucky lottery numbers are f – u – c – k – g – o – n – z – o – h – o – g!!!! And by the way, SC is better when their playmakers are on the field and not suspended or injured. But seriously, in case you didn’t get that — we held SC to 16, Georgia did not.
by The Right Reverend on Sep 26, 2009 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
That mighty NC State defense held the Gamecocks to 7. Rebel fans should know better than anyone that football performances aren’t commutative. I mean, Ole Miss lost to Vandy and South Carolina last season, but they beat Florida, despite the fact that Vandy and SC were both trounced by the Gators. It may be a little premature to say SC has a stout defense just because your offense was fairly inept, especially when the SC defense gave up roughly the same amount of points to Georgia that an absolutely piss-poor Arkansas defense did against Georgia.
by dxf04 on Sep 26, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh we do.
Rebel fans should know better than anyone that football performances aren’t commutative
If you’ll notice, we were satirically using the commutative property to make fun of the resident Arkansas antagonist who was trying to legitimately use it.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 26, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't need a girlfriend.
I have plenty of bitches right here.
As for the above jackass, no, i’m not saying that Arkansas defense is good, it’s just not as bad as you believe it is. Secondly, Georgia’s offense is a hell of a lot better than some folks thought it would be this year. They scored 41 at SC, you scored 10, so it all balances out, jackass.
So you honestly believe you have a better chance of beating ‘Bama huh? Well that has to be about the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard from an Ole Miss fan to date.
’Bama proved they could stop the run against VT, but the Hokies QB couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with a pass, meaning ‘Bama hasn’t been tested through the air yet.
If the Hogs play the Tide in Tuscaloosa and commit no turnovers, and the Rebels play the Tide in Oxford and commit no turnovers, i’ll take my chances with Arkansas pulling an upset before Ole Miss does any day of the fucking week and twice on Sunday.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 26, 2009 6:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gonzo...
You wouldn’t have to say “As for the above jackass” if you would learn how to use the buttfucking reply button correctly.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 26, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you honestly type that?
“I don’t need a girlfriend. I have plenty of bitches right here.” Unless you’re a dog breeder proclaiming his undying affection for the product of his labors, there is absolutely no reason for the above sentence to be typed. How old are you? Even if the rest of your comment wasn’t delusional and… No. I was going to try to be witty and clever but no, humor shouldn’t be wasted on you. I hate you. I hope your family dies in front of you. They probably feel the same way whenever you’re around.
by HolmesReb on Sep 26, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You little cowardly internet punk.
If I knew where you lived, i’d cut your scrotum off slowly with a bowie knife, while you screamed like a little 3 year old girl, pulling that loose toung from of your fucking head, straight out of your little ass.
Here’s some more info about your pussy-liped, tear-jerkin daddy:
http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/sports_article.asp?alD=117532.35786.129652&page=2
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 26, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably not too bright to make threats on the internet...
when people know your full name. If you don’t think that “threatening to cut someone’s scrotum off” would hold up in court you’re kiding yourself.
I really hope that this is you, too.
by Hunter C. on Sep 26, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
edit to correct
move the quotation mark and add a d to kidding.
by Hunter C. on Sep 26, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Gonzo is from Greenwood, Arkansas
which is a mere stone’s throw from Fort Smith. And Gonzo, either you are too stupid to figure out the reply button, or you’re not utilizing it for the sake of it—making you an antagonistic fuckstick. Get it right.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 26, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have we found you, Gonzo?
This douche seems like he could be you.
Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.
by RobRob9 on Sep 26, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't cowardly internet punks
hide behing the bitches they “have” on the fabulous world wide webernet? When tempted to spew like this, Gonzo, you would do better to hold your tongue. Or is it “toung?”
by The Right Reverend on Sep 27, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ghost, have told you lately what you can do with your reply button?
As for the rest of you cowardly little punks/bitches/cum suckers of the world, when your absolutly so fucking dumb as to make a statement about a man’s family like “I hope your family dies in front of you”, you deserve a hell af a lot more than what I mentioned earlier.
As for the motherfuckers that run this blog, if I remember correctly, some doush bag several months ago, made an inappropiate statement about Houston Nutt’s wife and had his idiotic statements taken off this board immediately.
Evidently, a poster stating that he wished a man’s family would die in front of him doesn’t carry the same weight.
And no, it’s not stupidity to make a true statement, considering the circumstances.
I may be an aggravating SOB on someone elses sports blog, but you’ll never hear me say anything close to what HolmesReb did about my family.
I think that obviously proves he’s a worthless piece of dog shit!
Maybe that goes for a lot of you other fucking turds as well.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Sep 27, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's enough...
…there’s a very, very fine line between the vulgarity that WW sometimes displays in his rants—a coarseness that is calculated and deliberate in his intention to play to his role as resident asshole—and the unregarded filth you’ve been spewing lately in addition to your usual ignorant diatribes. Granted, a sober WW may now regret just how well he played that role this week. But you’re just being grossly unbearable now, even for those of us who already know we can’t take you seriously.
I recognize my own mistake in writing this, that it gives you exactly what you want. But I’m begging you, please, for the sake of our ability to enjoy relevant commentary from people with sharp minds, clever senses of humor, and an interest in Ole Miss sports, stop. I don’t think it’s possible to inherently be smarter, but can’t you at least try? For your own sake, even…
"To the dull mind nature is leaden. To the illumined mind the whole world burns and sparkles with light."
by Rh0d3$t@r on Sep 27, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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