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Rebel Roundup - 9/25/09 - Aftermath

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I'm over my anger and quite sober now so, while I don't necessarily apologize for my rather lurid description of what happened last night, I do want to run it by the bevy of new visitors that we're likely going to have that "this is what we do."  Get over it.  Also, if you're coming here to gloat or fruitlessly talk trash, especially while using poor spelling and grammar, you're getting your shit bAnNiNaTeD.  No, we're not heavy on the banhammer and we have only lowered it on spammers, but take this as your fair warning.  We welcome visitors who actually want to contribute to an internet conversation.  "Ha lmao lol Ole PISS ovErERATTED" and such belongs on Hogville, Tiger Droppings, or whatever internet cesspool from whence you came.  I am not asking you to be an Ole Miss fan.  I'm not even asking you to be nice.  I'm asking you to actually bring something to the table.  I've been in about fiftyleven internet pissing matches and I'm not about to let my website devolve into one.  You've been warned. 

Over-Hyped Rebels Exposed | ESPN
Were we really over hyped Chris?  Wasn't this game everybody's upset special of the week?  Hell, even we Rebel fans were skeptical of our initial top-10 ranking, let alone the undeserved climb up said rankings when other teams fell.  As for "exposed," yeah I'll concede that.  We were certainly exposed as a team with an offensive line that can't pass block, a quarterback who shows the same immaturity he did during last season's early losses, and a coaching staff that really insists on not giving Dexter McCluster the ball--unless it's on some goofy-ass double reverse pass thing.

SBNation Game Stream | SBNation.com
Go here for all of the information from around our fantastic network.  Here you'll see Rebel, Gamecock, and neutral points of view on last night's game.  A fantastic resource, if you ask this (biased) bloggeur.

Rebs go "thud" in SEC opener | Brandt
I mean, really, are we ever going to win an SEC opener?  Not-at-all-fun fact: this is the 2nd time South Carolina has defeated a top five program and their only time to do so at home.  You're welcome, Gamecocks.

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What happened to Snead?

Is the USC defense really that good? Just an off game? What?

Tough loss. I knew USC at their place would be tough, but I was surprised to see Snead perform so badly.

At least you get Vandy next and not somebody like ’Bama or Florida. The Rebels still have a shot in the West.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 25, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it was a lot of things.

First of all, I call Snead the “Brett Favre of college ball” because he’ll sprinkle some absolutely gut-wrenching, stupid performances in with brilliant, game-winning football. Last night was the former, as was last season’s four interception debacle against Vanderbilt.

Also, I think the playcalling was highly suspect in that we were not utilizing Dexter McCluster enough.

Finally, his line didn’t passblock very well. They mailed it in.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know you want to blame your line

but I hadn’t realized the playmakers on SC’s defense. That defense last night could have given any team in this league untold amount of frustration. Personally, I’m glad Gmac’s first SEC start is coming against a Arky defense and not that sack attack.

I hadn’t realized the defense OLE MISS has, there were some big hits during this game. Like I said on Home Base, Ole Miss won’t be making that many penalties again.

Terrence Cody drinks your milkshake!

by Wallacewade04 on Sep 25, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure Snead's that good?

Without looking at last year’s schedule, I know that he struggled early in the year against Vandy (who had a very good corner) and some other teams. I don’t know how he did against Florida, but I do know that Florida kind of sleep walked until after you guys played them, and then after that, did he play that many good defenses? I don’t know when you played Arkansas, but I know that LSU’s pass d was terrible, as was TT’s. I guess what I’m trying to say is, has Snead had many good games against good teams, or has it mostly been poor pass defenses? Because Joe Cox and Co. put up 50 on USC, and he’s a first year starter, so I don’t know.

by Ianoka on Sep 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What most bothered me

was the way we ran the ball down SC’s throats on the second possession with Bolden. I told a buddy that if we keep up that kind of game plan, we would own the 4th quarter. SC’s D-line is thin…why not keep pounding Brandon? Instead, we give Cordera too many touches, don’t give Dex enough, and only let Brandon carry on first down. Terrible game planning.

by olemissdoc on Sep 25, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe this can be a good thing

and take all the pressure of being a top 5 team off of snead and the coaches. Now we can do like last year and just play ball and not worry about being undefeated, top 5, etc. Thats a lot of mental pressure to put on young players. especially ones that arent familiar with pressure.

by SouthernRebel on Sep 25, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

The purpose

of football is to BE #1. Being in the Top 5 brings pressure with it but it’s where you want to be. Other teams can handle the pressure, we just cracked.

I'll have a liter-a-cola.

by Shits_'N_Giggs on Sep 25, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We certainly didn't deserve the hype...

but Chris Lowe picked us to win the SEC West, so the old trite and stupid adage that “when you point your finger, you’ve got three pointing back at you,” really applies here.

by Juco All-American on Sep 25, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Kirk Herbstreit did the same thing

He was pounding Ole Miss for being the “euphoric” pick at the end of last season, but seems to forget that he had them in the top 5 of 2009-10 after the bowl game. Then he had the audacity to say that TT “didn’t want to be there” in the Cotton Bowl. ESPN can lick my balls.

And while I’m venting, it’s time for the Sowell experiment at LT to end. Let Massie have his shot. Maybe the spotlight won’t bother Sowell as much from the bench.

by olemissdoc on Sep 25, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

well there's a comment by this one asshole i keep recalling...
I’m not going to pretend that a lot of people are picking us because it’s the fun, trendy thing to do right now. While I do think this Rebel squad is damn good, I also think a lot of mainstream media types don’t know shit about football and just choose whatever is the “sexy” thing to pick.

desde aqui.

and i don’t really see why you guys should be penalized for these dumbasses coming back down to earth. i mean, for gods sake, having to suffer your team’s loss is bad enough without the unending revisionary history we’ll hear from the talking heads until saturday afternoon and something else catches their attention.

as much hand wringing and i-told-ya-sos that are going to fill the air the air today, the fact is the question marks and weak points about this ole miss team are the same as they were a month ago and it’s nonsensical to think that all the strengths just evaporated into the aether. bottom line, as an alabama fan, the game on oct. 11 just got harder, not easier.

if ole miss wants to claw back into the sec race they gotta win in tuscaloosa – and we have seen before this is a team that can pull that kind of game out of their ass if they are focused and catch their opponent on the right day.

by kleph on Sep 25, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

in Oxford*

Also, Maker’s makes the pain go away.

by Rh0d3$t@r on Sep 25, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

durr... my bad...

and that makes it even more dangerous a game, as our saurian-inclined foes can attest.

by kleph on Sep 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else frustrated...

…that SportsCenter keeps reporting that Sowell’s comments were Snead’s? I think they’ve corrected their error now, but give me a break.

Iowa over Penn State…again.

by Skip Bayless' Haircut on Sep 25, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

That was pissing me off too...

Although I can see it’s easy to confuse one player who played really shitty with another player who played really shitty.

by Rebel91 on Sep 25, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't know...

I was so enthused to see us actually running the ball against Carolina. My fear was founded last year when we had no ground game against them and thus couldn’t play action our way out of a wet paper bag (excuse the cliche, please). I thought we would have a great day running against them until…the staff obviously decided to open it up in the air and it all came crashing down. Sir Sowell was giving a decent run block and allowing the ball to move but when someone doing the game calling had the wild idea to switch her up. Over. Done. All momentum left us and ne’er to return. Now, what have we learned boys and Sowell??

by RebSawTheLight on Sep 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Sewell's comments...

The more I hear about them, the upset they make me. I’m reminded of Tebow’s press conference after the Ole Miss game last season, and there was no talk about ‘now we got that defeat behind us, we can get on with business. ’ No, all there was was a deep disappointment with the defeat, and a determination that it would not happen again, and, I might add, it has not. I also see Sowell’s strange attitude as indicative that this team is in no way ready to be among the elite. Not until they relish the challenge and the prestige of a top 5 ranking as do Florida, Texas and Alabama, will they be a serious challenger for the SEC title. In other words, maybe the coaching approach against SC was bush league, but so then is the team’s immediate response (or lack thereof). Comments?

by olemissdoc on Sep 25, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I just spoke to a source...

and surprise, surprise…he is apparently an excuse-making baby who needs to grow up. I heard that he even claimed to be cramping (he wasn’t) after letting Snead get sacked against Memphis. Ridiculous and agravating!

The other unfortunate news is that he’s all we got. My source says that Massie is not ready.

by Role Player on Sep 25, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

My source says Massie is....

a big mass of crap

Great Game Hokies! What a battle!

by The Voice of Reason on Sep 25, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good ole Houston Nutt. His team will always go 7-5, 8-4. Nothing more. Nothing less.

by mspirate on Sep 25, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Not to be nitpicky or anything,

but eight of his 12 SEC teams have finished with a record other than the two you mentioned. Say something original and not-stupid and I’ll pay attention next time.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nutt's regular season records.

1998 – 9-2
1999 – 7-4
2000 – 6-5
2001 – 7-4
2002 – 9-3
2003 – 8-4
2004 – 5-6
2005 – 4-7
2006 – 10-2
2007 – 8-4

So, he’s had 3 seasons with fewer than 4 losses and 2 with more than 5 losses.

Spouting out non-sensical BS makes you sound like an idiot.

by RebelBruiser on Sep 25, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to be picky

but 7 out of those 10 years you listed above had 4 or more loses…perhaps thats not “nothing more…nothing less” but i would think you guys have higer expectations..

Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. - The Ghost of Jay Cutler

by bammer on Sep 25, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offensive coaches collectively sharted

I can’t think of any other reason that Dexter only got 4 freaking touches for 3 quarters. That was the game plan for the limp cocks? REALLY?? How long did our collective offensive brain trust have to game plan for South Cack a lacky?? I felt like the bama douche bag yelling at the TV last night.

Good news is that Tyrone Nix did a SUPERB job last night. I’m glad too, because with the lost boys we have on offense, we are gonna need the D’s help all year.

by Evilreb on Sep 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

In Snead's defense - sort of

It seemed that on many passing plays he only had two receivers to throw to.
With the marauding Norwood never more than 2.5 seconds from killing him, I would have liked Snead to have a third option.

Was I missing something?

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Sep 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

You are correct

the options just weren’t there for him, regardless of how the line played. The playbook was excruciatingly limited until the fourth quarter. I mean c’mon man?! He had TWO receivers to throw to in a play-action on 3rd and long?! And this after our team all but giving up Bolden and the run.

 One of the announcers, my guess is McShay or whatever, said he thought he was going to see Snead walk in and go 3 or 4 wide and bust it loose. And we should have! A wideout screen to Mighty Mouse could’ve broken their asses and forced Norwood to respect an outside run. Vis-a-vis the Memphis gameplan to screen until the run gets going. Moreover, holding Eason in the back field for support/chipping with a TE out helping Sowell double team some LB or whatever he was getting beat by would still allow for 3 receivers and one or two late pattern guys.

by RebSawTheLight on Sep 25, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well oftentimes his third look is

a halfback in the flats. If your halfback is being called in to pass protect because your line won’t then that takes that option away.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Sep 25, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

Do we even have a screen play in our playbook? I mean, if you have a d-line that’s getting into the backfield as easily as theirs was, wouldn’t it be smart to at least TRY to use that over-pursuit against them? Isn’t that what USC did to us the whole first half?

Maybe we did try it and I missed it, or we did and just failed to execute. In any event, it would seem like having a reliable screen play would be useful with an o-line that can’t stop a determined bunch of girl scouts, much less an SEC pass rush.

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Sep 25, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My problem was the

obvious passing downs with I-Formation. Ridiculous. Mark Jean Louis should have been lined up at TE in a pro-set during obvious passing downs to help Sowell and just maybe to lead block in the flat for the RB as, just like you said, the 4th option in this case. But…we’re playing the what-if game. Simply, Sowell isn’t good enough nor determined enough for the second hardest job in football.

by RebSawTheLight on Sep 25, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Jean Louis

It seems like he was wayyyy too slow to pick up blocks

by TheBraveDude on Sep 25, 2009 3:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Especially on sweeps.

But he was alright up the middle. Even got his body—all of it—on a linebacker on a 3rd and short if I remember. Seemed like we could’ve run it up the middle on them all night. Lots of folks have already second guessed why we didn’t just do that, and get Dex involved more.

Speaking of Dex… we’ve all been seeing the Snead for Heisman stickers on all these Tahoes around town, and all the Tahoes owners’ girlfriends wearing the 4 jerseys at the bars and all, but…

…didn’t last night prove the obvious—it all revolves around “Da Lil’ Bastid”.

by Rh0d3$t@r on Sep 25, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys played a hell of a game....

You layed it all on the line…. left nothing in the tanks…and the stinking chips just didnt fall your way……..hang your head high….if ever was such a thing as a moral victory…..well then tennessee got that last week….but if ever was such a thing as one hell of a ball game…you guys played your hearts out….and I have definately gained a new respect for the team and the awesome fans…not to mention this site……cant wait to see you guys in Oxford!

Great Game Hokies! What a battle!

by The Voice of Reason on Sep 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

You guys sound like Arkansas fans used to sound.

It’s like going to an old Hog site a couple of years ago and hearing the complaints about only having 2 WRs on an obvious 3rd down and long pass play, bad playcalling, weak O-line play, and terrible passes thrown by the QB.
But what the hell, we didn’t need to pass, we had D-mac, right?

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Sep 26, 2009 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

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