Will Nick Saban End the Trend?
There is a very popular internet meme surrounding a particular SEC Western Division head coach. One which suggests that, under certain conditions, he is unable to guide his teams to victory. Yes, it has been proven time and time again that this coach--whose previous coaching tenure at another SEC West school, controversial career moves, and unique personality have caused quite a sir throughout the Southeast--has a hard time getting over a certain hump.
We are talking of course, about Nick Saban's inability to reach double-digit wins without a Senior at quarterback.
Heh, and you thought we were talking about Houston Nutt's "can't win with expectations" meme, didn't you? Don't you remember? That's been debunked. Twice.
We'll elaborate with a fancy chart and even fancier words after the jump.
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There are Saban's BCS level records and quarterbacks. Do you see what we see? It is quite simple, really. In 1999, the Michigan State Spartans, led by senior quarterback Bill Burke and head coach Nick Saban, completed a 9-2 regular season. They tied for 2nd in the Big 10 before earning a Capital One Bowl bid. After the regular season, Saint Nick was in Baton Rouge beginning his stint as the head coach of the LSU Tigers, but that didn't stop Burke, receiver Plaxico Burress, and the rest of the Michigan State Spartans from defeating the Florida Gators to earn their season's 10th win.
In 2001, the Saban's Tigers, led by senior quarterback Rohan Davey defeated every opponent in the SEC West aside from Ole Miss (I just had to do it) before besting the Tennessee Volunteers in the SEC Title game and defeating the Fighting Illini of Illinois in the Sugar Bowl.
In 2003, Matt Mauck, while technically not a senior, filled the role of the Saban quarterback. Mauck, a 24 year old redshirt junior who had spend a brief amount of time playing minor league baseball, led the Bayou Bengals to a 13-1 overall record and a BCS championship.
In 2004, a senior Marcus Randall started a majority of LSU's games that rebuilding season, but eventually began to lose playing time in favor of the redshirt freshman and eventual #1 overall draft pick, Jamarcus Russell. Russell and Randall had incredibly similar stats that season as playing time was seemingly split down the middle. While still a good season under most standards (9-2 regular season, bowl loss to Iowa on a Hail Mary pass), the scores of LSU's games in 2004 were all much closer than the scores seen in their 2003 season, demonstrating just how much of a rebuilding effort Randall and Russell were a part of.
And finally, in 2008 Nick Saban was finally able to get John Parker Wilson to produce wins which had escaped Alabama in Wilson's previous seasons. JPW's interceptions (some of which were pick sixes) which cost the Tide a few games in 2007 were significantly reduced while less pressure was placed on Wilson to win games. He used fantastic leadership and adequate decision making to produce an undefeated regular season for the Crimson Tide.
So, why the trend? It's all Saban-ball.
Whiskey Wednesday and I theorize that Saban-ball could be renamed to "don't-screw-it-up" ball. Namely, with regards to quarterbacks, Saban relies on level-headedness, adequate decision making, and confidence-inducing leadership skills. Saban's quarterbacks are never flashy NFL-prospects or stat machines. Their value doesn't come with their abilities to make plays. Their value comes with their abilities to not make the wrong plays. Last year's Crimson Tide squad is no more exemplary of this system. In looking at John Parker Wilson's stats (186/321, 57.9CMP, 2243yYDS, 9TD, 7INT, 121.53RAT), one is hardly impressed. However, in looking at 2007's stats (255/462, 55.2CMP, 18TD, 12INT, 114.6RAT), it becomes obvious that Saban implemented "don't-screw-it-up" ball. Really, they asked Wilson to do less. Hell, he threw the ball 141 fewer times in 2008 than 07. He was asked to just manage the offense, make as few mistakes as possible, and wear the clock down. Alabama had the running game and offensive line to run such an offense. They also had a quarterback who, through his experience, could make the clutch decisions when need be. Remember, Bama was just a shade below Ole Miss in terms of 3rd down efficiency for 2nd in the West. John Parker Wilson had a lot to do with that.
Coach Nick Saban couples this efficient, conservative offense with a stifling defense to build championship programs. It is really that simple.
Fortunately for the Crimson Tide, with regards to the defense, this upcoming season should be no different than the last.
But what about offensively? Alabama is replacing two All-American offensive linemen, their leading rusher, and their veteran quarterback. Don't be misled, their rushing attack will be good, and their passing attack will also be good--I mean, Julio Jones, he's still alive and all--but they did lose a significant amount of offensive yards to graduation and the NFL draft. It is safe to say that Alabama will not be as dominating on the ground during this upcoming season as they were for the last. That being considered, while merely speculation, a lot more may be asked of Greg McElroy in his first year as Alabama's starter than was asked of John Parker Wilson in his last.
None of this is to suggest that Nick Saban is not a good coach. He is a great coach. The only issue is that, thus far, he has proven to rely on a particular formula to put togther highly successful seasons. Unfortunately, one of the most significant parts of that formula will not be in Tuscaloosa this fall.
Does this mean Alabama can't win 10+ games this season. Certainly not. They've got one of America's best coaches, one of college ball's most dominating receivers, and a defensive two-deep most schools would envy. Are these trends indicative of much? Hard to say. This particular narrative demonstrates what Saban's offensive modus operandi is whereas this one (yes, there's not only one doom-and-gloom for Bama trend out there) shows the inconsistency of the program over the last decade. Are they both true? Yes. Are they both going to somehow intangibly influence the coaches and players for this upcoming season? No.
Just, in the extreme off chance that McElroy is an absolute bust and Bama struggles to make a decent bowl game, please remember where you heard it first.
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odd at all that you posted this today. :)
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I find this article a little shaky.
What exactly is your theory? That Saban teams perform best with experienced senior quarterbacks who efficiently run the offense? I have a feeling that the vast majority of 10+ win teams had the same thing.
I guess you could say that Saban teams generally have very good defenses and relatively simple offenses that don’t make mistakes, but I feel like we already knew that.
Sorry for the hatin’, just wasn’t really sure what you were getting at.
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I have to say....
I sort of agree.
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by Juco All-American on Aug 18, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I know, not opine, but know Alabama is going to be good this year.
I think this “trend” is just the result of circumstance. I don’t think it proves much of anything, nor do I think it is a good method of predicting Alabama’s season.
It’s just that people are constantly doing whatever they can to downplay Nutt and Ole Miss while little effort is being put into that towards other SEC West schools. I’m (weakly) doing that.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 18, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I may be slightly biased, but
Why is Alabama so highly rated? They have a starting quarterback that has never played before and lost most of their offensive line from last year along with Glen Coffee. How are those good things? Utah housed them in the Sugar Bowl. They too have an unproven quarterback and are therefore ranked outside of the top 15. I’m sure somebody that wants to put some research into their post could site me a lot of other positions that Utah is lacking this year, and somebody’ll probably say something about Alabama’s returning defense (We would have put 35 on them later in the season.), but I really give no damn. I’ll still hate Alabama more than campus parking “officials,” and I hope they lose all but two games.
slightly a homer? with those comments your name should be HomerReb not HolmesReb
1. returning a top five defense, not to mention the front seven is widely considered the best in the country – I know it’s easy to say what you “would have done”, but face it, you didn’t.
2. Very good O-line due to depth, probably better than the Rebel’s – think about this – Massie is going to be a big part of your OLine where Fluker and T. Love both 5stars as well, may not even see the feild this year because of quality depth.
3. Coffee was a good back, but when he was out, Mark Ingram didn’t miss a beat…Bama also has 2 of the top freshman backs in the nation in Trent Richardson (5 star) and Eddie Lacey (4 star), Not to mention senior Roy Upchurch who was a 4star in his own right and Terry Grant who was our 2nd leading rusher in ’07.
4. Coaching, Saban is one of the best coaches in football.
Just few reasons Bama will still be good…
I'm not refuting what you're saying, but...
the fact that Massie will have to play as a backup while Fluker may redshirt doesn’t really make a big difference on the outcome of games. It’s not like Massie is being asked to start. He’ll just have to be ready if people go down. I’m sure that if Carpenter goes down, Fluker will play a good bit as well.
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by Juco All-American on Aug 18, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
To match your points:
1. Ole Miss is returning 8 out of 11 starters from a top-20 defense whose best player (Greg Hardy) isn’t even a starter. Our rush D was the #4 overall, to boot. Yes, I know Bama’s numbers are better. It’s just that Ole Miss’ defense will, along with Bama’s, be very good.
2. “Massie is going to be a big part of your OLine?” Really? He may fill in situationally but I doubt he’s a “big part.” Furthermore, our line troubles are really only going to be apparent in the passing game. We won’t be great pass blockers, but we won’t be bad. We’ll be excellent run blockers.
3. Ole Miss had the #2 rush offense in the SEC last year. Has everyone forgotten this or something?A whopping 96% of the yards gained by the Rebels on the ground last season were obtained by players who will be on the team this fall. Yes, that is correct. We only lost 4% of our rushing yards to graduation.
4. Coaching… Ummm, Houston Nutt is better than Coach O.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 18, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, before any Bama fans jump to conclusions,
the #1 rushing offense in the SEC was Florida. Yes, Ole Miss has a statistically better rushing attack than Alabama.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 18, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
A homer? Of course I am.
I fully admit to that. I’m not a professional (or an amateur) journalist and therefore, am allowed to be as big of a homer as I want to be. Also, recruiting “stars” don’t mean a damn thing. Stop sighting them as credible evidence. Just an example from the past, Patrick Willis was a two star recruit coming out of high school, and there was discussion as to whether he would play fullback or linebacker. How’d that work out? How has Keiland Williams, five stars and the best post-grad recruit in the country, worked out?
Latin Phrases
I like the latin phrases constantly dropped in the articles. Do not have any specific examples, but would it not be fun to blog an entire entry in latin. Why don’t ya’ll get on that.
I mean the rebs do seem to be bona fide. Hopefully the Dei Gratia will see us through the 2009 season. May we be speaking of all our opponents In Memoriam as we lay waste to them on the field of battle.
OK so let me get this straight....
I am sure I am way off base with this but doesn’t that fact that in 2001 Matt Mauck was a junior completely trump your theory? Redshirt or not, he was a junior. McElroy is a junior as well. Correct me if I am wrong, and i will deny it blindly, but McElroy also used his redshirt his freshman year. So pretty much we do have in place that kind of leadership in place that won a BCS title…..
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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 18, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions
Matt Mauck was 24 years old.
There’s the difference.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 18, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
But in Ghost’s defense, Mauck was 24 years old then.
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by Juco All-American on Aug 18, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Matt Mauck wasn't a brand new starting QB
Experience is what really matters here. For all practical purposes, we could consider Snead to be a “senior” QB at this point.
With some exceptions (UT in 98), new starting QBs are going to cost a team a couple games.
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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 18, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions
-2001 , +2003
promise to proofread before I come back and contribute…
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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 18, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions
Yikes.
I don’t wish that on anyone.
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by Juco All-American on Aug 18, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I found it to be spot on.
Not to rehash what the article says, but Saban relies on great defense and efficient offense. His offenses don’t generally score a shitload of points – making the need to minimize turnovers even more critical to winning than usual. When you’re relying on running the ball and controlling the clock, an inexperienced QB can more easily cost you a game with one or two turnovers. This may sound too simplistic, but Saban won his ’03 NC because the defense was oustanding and Matt Mauck rarely turned the ball over. Same thing with SJPW last year.
Obviously, experience under center is key for any successful team. It’s just more important in a system like Saban’s.
On the flip side, great defense helps to neutralize turnovers, however.
one thing worth noting...
Saban relies on level-headedness, adequate decision making, and confidence-inducing leadership skills.
this sounds a hell of a lot like most of Coach Bryant’s qb’s (aside from the remarkable exceptions of namath and stabler). steadman shealy, jeff rutledge and pat by-god trammell fit the description perfectly. which isn’t to say saban is comparable to bryant, but to point out that the tradition of a conservative offense and world-beating defense isn’t exactly something new at the capstone.

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