Stack-Ups: Easing Into It
by Ivory Tower on Jun 19, 2009 12:25 PM EDT
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Last year, at our old digs, The Cup played a little game called "Stack-Ups," where we ranked the teams in the SEC West according to position. While, I can make no promises that my job will continue to provide me with little or no actual "work" to do (opening, thus, the opportunity for my recent blitzcup), in the coming weeks, we / I / possibly you will be sharing some information that our readership has probably already memorized before offering our / my / y'all's opinions regarding the relative strengths and weaknesses of the
QUARTERBACKS
RUNNING BACKS
WIDE RECIEVERS
OFFENSIVE LINES
DEFENSIVE LINES
LINEBACKERS, and
DEFENSIVE BACKS
in ye old SEC West. Learn about how Kevin Sneed is going to make OLE MISS a dark horse after the jump.
I am to paraphrase Banky Edwards in Chasing Amy a persistent traveller on the road that's the path of least resistance. And I am proud to take the easy way out to begin stack-ups with, probably, the least controversial category: quarterbacks.
ALABAMA
For the billionth time, Greg, you throw to the guy that plays for Alabama, not the guy that plays for any other team. It John Park three years to learn that.
So, John Parker is off to getting drunk with Stabler the NFL (?), and Alabama is once again breaking in a highly touted quarterback who has some bench experience. Honestly, the stability at quarterback for the Tide over the last six years has been pretty impressive. Good, long reigns by Sarah Jessica and, before her, Brodie Croyle. Of course, the good news is that the Alabama offense (hand it off to some freshman who is about three times better than he ought to be) is difficult enough that Alabama quarterbacks have a penchant for sucking until their senior season. Greg, for his part, completed 16 of 30 for 189 yards in the A Day game, which is actually worse than his career 16 for 20 in real games. With a top-notch wide reciever in Julio Jones (I think Tiders may have t-shirts that have "Got Julio" on them), Greg might well be like the Brodie Croyle that led the SEC in passing efficiency before Tyrone Prothro did that thing that still makes me a little wheezy (Crappy video? Yeah, I know. It's better for you that way). For my money, though, I am guessing he struggles until the Tide plug somes holes at offensive line.
ARKANSAS
Fresh out of Dicks, Bobby Petrino thinks he has found big one in cocky quarterback Ryan Mallett, whose middle name is not Peter, but it ought to be for consistency's sake. I am mentally preparing myself for the video game numbers that are coming from Ryan Mallett. But let's ask ourselves why? Does it have anything to do with anything we saw out of the young man when he was at Michigan? I doubt it. We're worried that putting this '69 Corvette of an arm in the hands of the world's greatest used car salesman will ... someone finish that metaphor for me. But, he did throw 5 interceptions to his 7 touchdowns at Michigan, going 61 of 141 on the season. Does anybody doubt that Mallett will have 141 attempts by the first week in October? Then, think about the six weeks between September 19 and October 24; except for a "week off" against Texas A & M, Arkansas gets Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and Ole Miss - Ryan Mallett is going to get hit. Often. If Petrino does not have faith in Nathan Dick (okay, so he's not out of 'em) to carry a little load for Mallett, I am wondering if this young man can take as many snaps as Petrino will have him without getting injured.
AUBURN
Here we see Coach Chizik employing a contemplative style reminiscent of Ed Orgeron.
Kodi Burns is about like the invisible man, isn't he? Even though Gus Malzahn has him listed at the top of the depth chart, that man has been laying lower than Osama bin Laden. But Scout thinks that Neil Caudle will be Malzahn's man when this is all over. Track 'Em Tigers are hiding their disappointment by putting their trust in freshman phenom recruit Tyrik Rollison. Here's what is fairly obvious to us all - Auburn's quarterback situation is about as dire as I can remember in the SEC - messes like this should not be happening at schools outside Starkville. What Auburn really wants is a guy that has enough effectiveness to distract defenses from focusing entirely on Ben Tate and Mario Fannin. If the invisible man at quarterback can do that, War Eagle Nation will be (ought to be) plenty satisfied.
LSU
Here's something you've never heard of before - an LSU quarterback with plenty of zip in his arm and a set of legs to boot. That having worked out so well in the past is why, I think, the punditry have their eye on Jordan Jefferson. But, as Chris Low points out in the linked article, he has only started two games. His performance in the spring game was an efficient 8 of 10 for 97 yards, but such a brief showcase supports the belief that Jefferson will not be the star of this offense. And people aren't joking when they call him a question mark. His out-of-nowhere performance in the final three games of the 2008 season was so out of nowhere, that he is not on ESPN's 2008 LSU roster. I'm not sold on Jordan Jefferson. Now, the guys he hands the ball off to are a whole 'nother issue.
MISSISSIPPI STATE
Tyler Russell. Tyson Lee. Do I really need to go on ad nauseum about these guys? You expect that Dan Mullen will give Lee the majority of the snaps trying to ease Tyler Russell into this college football thing. The guy completed 58% of his passes in 2008 with 7 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Hell, he's not much worse than Ryan Mallett up at Michigan. Maybe Petrino should've gotten this guy. When you're looking, as State is looking, for someone to run an offense for Anthony Dixon and get the ball to Brandon McRae every now and then, I don't see how Tyson Lee isn't your guy.
OLE MISS
Bubble wrap. Lots of bubble wrap.
WRAP-UP:
With highly-touted not-yet-starters coming into Arkansas, LSU, and Alabama and the great race for mediocrity going on in the Western Division's cow colleges, it's not homerism to call Jevan Snead the best in the West. I highly doubt anybody but Mallett will challenge Snead for the crown, and that only because Mallett will be shouldering so much more of the offensive weight. My pecking order is as follows:
1. Ole Miss
2. Arkansas
3. Alabama
4. LSU
5. State
6. Auburn.
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Edit the order you have at the end so that people can take you seriously.
MSU doesn’t have a quarterbackon roster better than one that Auburn has on roster.
by Juco All-American on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
Ummm....
No way Jefferson (and his 3 games started) is not better than guys who have a combined 0 sec starts…..Just my $0.02.
Nathan Dick transferred to Central Arkansas
Tyler Wilson will be decent after Mallett chokes on a dick.
That is dedicated investigation; way to stay up on your phallu-phone football facts.
Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].
Wow after us there's a lot of question marks.
1. Ole Miss
2. LSU
3. Arkansas
4. Alabama
5. Auburn
6. State
Correct^^^
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 19, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Stupidity
I guess it takes a couple of Nutts to recruit a couple of Dicks. I’m sure glad their all gone.
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Ryan Mallett didn’t beat out Tyler Wilson by very much in the spring. As a matter of fact, Wilson just happens to be the better passer with his accuracy.
Mallett will have the strongest arm in college football, bar none, much like Matthew Stafford had last season.
Wilson’s only downfall is the fact that he’s taken snap out of the shotgun since the 3rd grade. He’s never ran anything outside of the spread up until last season. That’s the main reason he was origionally commited to Tulsa (OC, Gus Malzahn) before Petrino was hired at the UofA.
He’s had more trouble taking the snap from center than anything else, but has improved greatly from last season and has put on 20 more lbs. of muscle.
Mallett still has a more complete understanding of the overall offense, plus he has some game experience while at Michigan. That’s the only reason he’s listed as the starter.
In the future, I wouldn’t be suprised if Petrino doesn’t hesitate to go with the best QB in practice that week, much like Spurrier did in the past at Florida..
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
Whatever.
Snead > Mallett
The above could change, but I doubt it. As of now, Snead is the single best QB in the SEC West. For you to call us “stupid” for thinking such is, well, stupid.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 20, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Evidently, your calculated sense of homerism blinds you to the mere facts, Ghost.
There was nothing in my post disagreeing with the fact that Snead is the best and most proven QB in the SEC West.
The simplicity of the post was to meerly acknowlege who recruited 2 dicks to the UofA while serving their tenure there.
Also, the fact that some of you weren’t aware that Petrino’s 2 QB recruits have weeded out the last of the 2 Dicks, recruited by your Nutt, is inescapable.
Arkansas has not 1, but 2 very talented QBs that your Nutt was never capable of recruiting in the past. (Tyler Wilson hated that guy, by the way)
Nutt has never recruited QBs known for their great passing ability. Only the kind that are adequate at running and passing.
The 4 star QB that Nutt recruited to Ole Miss this year was only rated that highly because of his size. If your 6’ 4", 220 lbs., you automatically get another star. If your HC is Houston Nutt, you lose that extra star with the potential he takes away from you.
Ole Miss fans are exstreamly, exstreamly lucky to have a passing QB as good as Snead.
Colt McCoy and Ed Orgeron are the 2 main reasons he came. That’s a fact.
Mallett and Wilson are at the UofA because of Petrino. Plain and simple.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
Casey graduated,
so I’d hardly say that particular Dick was “weeded out.” As for the other, sure. I’m not going to disagree with the idea that Tyler Wilson and Ryan Mallett are better quarterbacks than he.
And, as far as your comment that “Nutt has never recruited QBs known for their great passing ability” and only recruits runners, I would like for you to read up on Mr. Nathan Stanley. That guy can’t run for shit and he’s got a touch on the deep ball that should make even Jevan Snead a bit envious.
And anyway, your entire premise of “QBs, as I perceive it, don’t like Houston Nutt which makes him a bad coach” is a bit silly. Who fucking cares if QBs like Petrino? When considering the guys offense, it’s not exactly shocking nor indicative of anything significant.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 20, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Stupidity.....again.
Ghost,
What part of “weeded out the last of the 2 dicks” did you not understand. Casey was never a part of the equasion.
As for passing QB recruits not liking Nutt, it completely makes sense for one not to like him, since he can’t develope one for shit.
Also, you hit the nail on the head about Petrino’s offense. Thanks.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
Gonzohog, we like you
please come back.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 21, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
"...exstreamly, exstreamly..."
Damn, Gonzo, that’s an extremely, extremely creative effort of intentionally poor grammar.
Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].
Predicted Mallett Injury
Gonzo, do you think my concerns hopes that Mallett might take a beating with all those hard-hitting defenses between the Georgia game and the Ole Miss game holds any water?
Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].
What you really oughta ask
is who has the defense to bail them out?
My boy Greg and the Snead definetly, LSU probably and the teagles aren’t fully laughable on D. Mallet and the state boy? They’re screwed.
1. Ole Miss
2. LSU
3. The Evil Empire (Bama bitches)
4. smelly whore fArt University
5. Arkansas
6. State
"What's got two thumbs and loves SUVs from Gadsden? THIS GUY!"
"smelly whore fArt University"
While overly lame, that made me laugh. Hard. And I agree, we, you, and LSU should all have good defenses this upcoming season.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 22, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait...
I mean I just typed it as I thought it but…. is the whore smelly or is it the fart? Of course the fart is going to smell, its a fart, so I guess I would be implying that the whore is smelly and the fart represents Auburn
So the whore smells and from the smelly person comes a fart, that procedure is equivalent to Auburn
(Whore who smells) → farts > Auburn
ANYWAY I am putting LSWho ahead of my boy Greg, but our defense and running game will aid us in destroying the Tigers. This is also a question of targets, where as LSU QB will have a smorgeousborg (miss spelled the shit outta that) Greg will look for Julio early and often in between screen passes and looking for the tight end. I don’t think that a QB will really produce the kind of numbers to be considered the best in the west in our system, not because he lacks talent, just because we run a “you can tell all the girls you’re the Quarterback, just don’t fuck this up for me” offense
"What's got two thumbs and loves SUVs from Gadsden? THIS GUY!"
by Wallacewade04 on Jun 22, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Mallett is 6 ‘7", 248 lbs. Unless it’s an injury to the hand, and/or finger, or a knee, I’m really not that worried about his toughness. He won’t hang on to the ball as long as Casey did either, which had much to do with the many sacks we endured last saeson.
The O-line will also be improved, having a much better understanding of Petrino’s offense than Nutt’s 3 year leftover players did last season, and if Mallett does happen to go down, he has a damn good replacement behind him.
If I were you, Ivory, i’d worry more about that big target Jevon Snead will be wearing on his chest.
South Carolina would be a good team to start with. This would be a good year for the Gamecocks’s offense to shine and jump out to an big early advantage at home .
If that happens, the Rebels will have to pass the ball more, which will lead to a better chance of Snead getting put on his ass.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2009/6/22/920316/sec-2009-arkansas-rebuilds-with
After you read the link, picture Mallett’s backup, Tyler Wilson, throwing 62% of his passes complete in the 3 scrimmages leading up to the spring game, while Mallett threw for 49%.
Some Hog fans said “yeah well, he was going against the 2nd string defense”
Correct, he was, so try this one on for size:
In the 4th qr. of the spring game, Mallett was kept on the sideline. Wilson switched his jersey from white to the red team. (going against the 1st string defense)
He was 14 of 16 through the 4th qr., and the only reason he wasn’t 15 of 16, was because a perfect pass was dropped.
Tyler Wilson is from my home town of Greenwood , AR. I watched him lead his HS team to two consecutive state titles in ‘06 and ’07. He can make any kind of throw, and even compared to Mallett’s incredible arm strength, he’s not too shabby in that catagory either.
Wilson’s only drawback was that he was a skinny 6’ 2", 182 lbs. out of HS. He’s currently at 202. That was the only missing link to him ranking a 4 star QB out of HS.
Personally, I don’t think Ole Miss’s defense wants to tangle with either one of these guys.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
I have a feeling...
that our defense isn’t scared.
I mean, they held this team in check.
by Juco All-American on Jun 23, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
For one to be throwing comments around like “I lost respect for you on that one…”, Juco, you sure make a terrible argument for your teams defense.
I guess my question would have to be, what the hell does last years UofA/Miss.St. game have to do with this coming year’s game between the UofA/Ole Miss game?
Are all of last years players coming back? I was under the impression that the last of the 2 dicks had transfered from the UofA. Maybe I was wrong. Do you know something about this years UofA team I don’t, Juco? I’ve definately got to here this one.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
Apparantly Ivory doesn't understand
how they game went.
I wasn't aware that Nathan Dick
Gave up 445 yards to a Sylvester Croom coached Mississippi State team.
How’s this for an argument?
Our offense can score points against anyone. Our defense has a great pass rush. We held Charles Scott to ten yards on ten carries. Our secondary leaves something to be desired. To me, that means we have an above average defense. An above average defense + a dynamic and high-powered offense = wins.
by Juco All-American on Jun 25, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
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