Rebel Roundup - 12/29/09
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 29, 2009 11:52 AM EST
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McCluster’s idol? Barry Sanders | Brandt
My Idol? Dexter McCluster. Well, McCluster and Billy Brewer. Pretty good read over at Brandt's new e-digs.
Hodge looking for records in final game | RebelSports.net
Shay Hodge, the greatest Rebel wide receiver ever, is surprisingly humble. Or, at least he's humble when meeting with the media. Regardless, Shay has unexpectedly done a ton for our football program and I hope we all send him off with the fanfare he deserves, come January 2nd.
Cotton Bowl Practice 12/28/09 photos | RebelSports.net
From Rivals.com, a slideshow of yesterday's Cotton Bowl practice from the inside of the New Cowboys Stadium. See if you can spot Kendrick Lewis playing air piano.
Cotton Bowl Week Report 12.28 | OleMissSports.com
Here is a practice report from the official--albeit slightly uninteresting--source of Ole Miss Rebel news and notes.
Ole Miss continues to produce talented offensive linemen | Dallas Morning News
The Dallas Morning News takes a look at Michael Oher, John Jerry, Daverin Geralds, and Ole Miss' penchant for putting offensive linemen into the League.
Mike Leach is still fucking insane | ESPN.com
This is pretty terrible. Coaches are certainly allowed to be a bit gruff with their players, but this is borderline most definitely a form of torture.
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Re: the Mike Leach debacle
Political Correctness is killing America. Having to stand in a dark room for three hours is not torture. My father played football for Ole Miss in the late 60’s and they went through much, much worse treatment. Hell, I went through worse at West Point. There is no reason for Leach to be suspended or fired for these actions. Do you think Leach did this to that James kid without reason? My guess is James was being a spoiled brat. If he didn’t want to stand in a closet for three hours he should have told Leach to screw off and quit the team. He wasn’t holding a gun to his head… presumably.
by Hunter C. on Dec 29, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know this is hyperbole, I know it. But this reminds me of when I
visited Dachau and saw the “standing rooms” where Russian POW’s were tortured by being closed in a small, dark room in which they could only stand.
Of course, the difference is that the Russians were kept there for days or weeks on end, and this kid was in there for a few hours… but still.
Once again, I know I am using a ridiculous hyperbole.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 29, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because “worse” happened to your father in the ’60’s doesn’t make it right today. Hell, Ole Miss didn’t let African Americans attend until 1962 (and they were the first SEC member to do so… except Arkansas, who integrated the graduate school in the ’40s, but I guess they were in the SWC at the time, so blah, blah, blah, I digress). Besides, comparing college football to the army is a little silly. I mean college football is a game (that I enjoy very much). But these guys are going to the NFL, not Iraq.
by dxf04 on Dec 29, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, where to begin...
1) Leave race out of this, I did.
2) This guy thinks the Army comparison is valid. (Okay, I’m joking, here.)
3) What I went through wasn’t considered hazing, it was just tougher than standing in a dark room. The fact that y’all think standing in a dark room is torture blows my mind.
4) Your “these guys are going to the NFL, not Iraq” argument needs addressing as well because you left this one wide open. League minimum salary for a rookie in the NFL is $285,000. Average salary of an Army E-1w/ less than 2 years of service is just shy of 17k/yr. If they’re going to make that kind of money I doubt they’re not willing to stand in a dark closet for three hours.
by Hunter C. on Dec 29, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No need to get pissy. I was nothing but polite.
Why should I leave race out of it? Because it’s an example of something that was “okay” in the ‘60s, but no longer is, and you don’t like that?
I never said it was torture; I just said it was wrong.
My point about Iraq vs. the NFL was about the fact that one group is going to war and the other is playing football on Sundays. It had nothing to do with money, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. I apprectiate it, slugger.
by dxf04 on Dec 29, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Leach should be suspended or fired for this action?
by Hunter C. on Dec 29, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the player’s version the story is accurate, i.e., locked in an electrical closet, monitored by staff to ensure that he doesn’t sit or lean on anything, as punishment for having a concussion and not being able to practice, a few games suspension seems about right.
If Mike Leach’s attorney’s claims are accurate, that he was sent to an air conditioned room with a stationary bike as punishment for insubordination, then of course not.
In either case, he shouldn’t be fired, unless this turns into a Mark Mangino-esque situation where others come forward and establish a pattern of punishing players for being injured.
I’m more than happy to let the investigation run its course. What baffles me are the people, on both sides, who think he should be immediately fired or immediately reinstated, based on their personal belief that Leach is a “torturer” or James is a “spoiled brat”.
by dxf04 on Dec 29, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can live with your terms.
I simply get annoyed at how “wrong” people think this is, even as punishment. I imagine we need to be punishing college athletes much more for insubordinate and/or illegal behavior. Discipline is all but missing from college athletics.
by Hunter C. on Dec 29, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Unless you’re on the third string or the scout team.
After just reading some of the more recent articles about the Mike Leach situation, it seems that James’ claims might be a bit, um, inaccurate. Hopefully the investigation will be swift, so that Leach can be reinstated prior to TT’s bowl game, in the event that no wrongdoing occurred.
by dxf04 on Dec 29, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam James is a Douche
Supposedly the electrical “closet” was a “roomy enough space where the visiting media gathered for interviews after games” (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls09/news/story?id=4779341). Craig James is a douche and so is his son. Then again, Mike Leach isn’t so great either.
by DodgerSandstorm on Dec 29, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly! I was furious at Mike Leach!!
Why would he do this?? But that was before I found out the the kid who was “mistreated” was the son of the douchebag Pony craig james. Now I am hoping for a contract extension for the ole pirate!!
by bovice on Dec 30, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More on the Cap'n
The word is, young Mr. James had a concussion. It seems quite practical to put him in a dark room for 3 hours, considering if he’d been out in the bright sunshine, it might have aggravated his condition.
Besides, Daddy James is a d-bag, and his son probably acts like one too.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Dec 29, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Mike Leach...
Pirate, Head Coach, Pledge Trainer. He does it all.
by Rebel91 on Dec 29, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No mention of former Rebel Basketball Savior Trenton Marshall's Oxford debut tonight?
The melodrama surrounding Marshall’s recruitment last season was ridiculous. Committing and decomitting to OKSt and openly pondering signing with the Rebels before joining Ryan Perrilloux in (seemingly) athletic purgatory at Jacksonville State. He’s tearing it up for JSU and should put on a show tonight. Too bad more students won’t be there to let him hear it. But the students don’t show up when they’re in town…
I know more about college basketball than you do. It's a law. Like water. Or dinosaurs.
by buster_bluth on Dec 29, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You're right....
You do know more about college basketball than me. And all this time I thought it was just something to kill time between the end of football and the start of baseball!!
by bovice on Dec 29, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, OMTB, the guy who should be covering basketball,
was gifted Modern Warfare 2 for Christmas. He is likely knee-deep in a video-game addiction relapse. Wish him well.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Take a picture, trick.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 29, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know the feeling
I haven’t been able to speak to either of my brothers since Christmas because of MW2.
Fuck Texas!
by UMBAI on Dec 29, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ive played MW2.
Believe me, by the time he is able to break away from that, Terrico White will have graduated.
by bovice on Dec 30, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a copy as well, but a friend of mine took it.
I just got it back yesterday… It’s a good thing I won’t be near my XBox until the 4th.
Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the Culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Take a picture, trick.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 30, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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