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Rebel Roundup - 12/18/09

All-Decade Team: Vote for the best linebacker | Dr. Saturday
Dr. Saturday is compiling the greatest linebackers of the past ten years.  Amongst the ten choices is Patrick Willis.  Go now and vote for him.  Be a good Rebel.  Do it.

All-Decade Team | Sports Illustrated
SI, on the other hand, has released their all-decade team.  Naturally, Patrick Willis occupies one of the linebacker slots.  Get it, PWillie.

Top-Ten College Games from the 2000's | Sports Illustrated
Also from SI are the ten greatest games of the past ten years.  On the list is the seven overtime loss to Arkansas from November 3, 2001.  Of course, that game was just another victory by the Predestined and Glorious Arkansas Razorbacks (praise be to Broyles) over the lowly Old Piss Webels, a pissant "Mississippi school."  At least, that's what the batshit Arkansas narrative would have you believe.  (Houston Nutt has not lost to Bobby Petrino.)(This is somehow the work of Ed Orgeron.)(Whatever.)

Rookie Watch: Week 14 | ESPN dot com
Michael Oher is, according the the Woldwide Leader in Sports, the greatest rookie in the league right now.

You could make a case for (Oher) being the offensive rookie of the year. He is one of the best pure right tackles in the NFL and should garner Pro Bowl consideration. He is going to dominate for many years to come at either right or left tackle.

Speaking of, we haven't seen a "Rebel In The Pros" segment in a while, One Man to Beat.  Just an observation.

Pay to Party in the Grove? | NEMS360 dot com
Yes, the university administration is tossing the idea of charging for the premium spots in the Grove (i.e., along the Walk of Champions).  I think the comments thread is as good a spot as any for a discussion on this so go ahead and leave your thoughts.

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The Athletic Department "Claimed" It Had Something to Do With New SEC Rule...

Something about how the numbers had to be either outlined or shadowed so you could see them better. Why we opted for “shadowed” instead of outlined (which we also had for a while). I have no clue. There was another rule about having to have names on the jerseys but both of those rules have been dropped now. Thank God.

Weren’t those also the ones with no stripes on the shoulders? I hated that. When I think Ole Miss Football, I think stripes on the shoulders. I’m not near as picky about the “red or blue” issue as I am about the stripes one.

by Catfish Row on Dec 18, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The Grove

I just sent this to Dr. Jones and Dr. Mullens and I urge each of you to contact them. Their email addresses are at the end.

Thank you for considering changing another one of the "traditions" of my University. Once you start charging for the premium spots in the Grove those spots will be bought by the commercial vendors or the elite and you will have killed one more thing that makes Ole Miss unique.

My family has had the same spot in the Grove for over 10 years and everyone we know from my time at Ole Miss and my daughter’s time at Ole Miss comes by to see us every home game. It currently costs me over $12,000 a football season once all my expenses of food, lodging, UM Foundation donation, tickets and other spending are considered. In case you haven’t heard the economy outside the bubble of the University is not in good shape.

Your solution will completely commercialize the Grove and eliminate the little man like myself. I have talked to five families that normally set up around us in the Grove and ALL say if there is another fee they have to pay they are through with the Grove which will also mean instead of coming to Ole Miss for the weekend they will drive to Ole Miss on game day or not at all. The Grove is as much and in some cases more of an attraction than the actual game. The Grove will become instead of a family tradition an area of elitism and commercialization. Spots on the "Walk Of Champions " will be full of empty tents for games that are not "big" games as you can currently see some empty tents for those games when commercial companies set up for people every game but they only show up for big games.

There are other ways to handle the Friday afternoon mess that is mainly caused by the commercial companies. There also needs to be some control of the commercial companies parking in the loading zones for hours after the games causing the normal football fan problems in leaving the Grove. Although that won’t be a problem if you start charging for Grove spots because all you will have will be the commercial companies.

PLEASE STOP KILLING EVERYTHING THAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT OLE MISS.

chancllr@olemiss.edu amullins@olemiss.edu

by GeorgiaReb on Dec 18, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

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I agree that to charge for spaces would be stupid, but I don’t agree with the overall tone of that e-mail.

by Juco All-American on Dec 18, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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Because y’all should only +1 people. Leave the minuses out of this. Why bring patrons down? Bad customer service.

by Hunter C. on Dec 18, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you about selling commercial/corporate spots

Shouldn’t be done. If they’re going to charge for space but can’t keep the commercial interests from buying up all the good spots, then no plan should be adopted.

In that case I’d just settle for stricter rules on where and how many tents could be allowed.

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Dec 18, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

On paying for Grove spots

I’m certain I’m in the minority, and I’d have to see just how much they want to charge and how they would administer the “rights” to spots, but in general principle, I am for it. I tailgate with a group and I know we would happily pay a little extra if it really could improve the experience.

I grew up in Oxford and remember when they used to let people park their cars in the Grove. I have watched it go from a family picnic atmosphere where families played with their kids to the Tent City it is now, with no place to walk between layouts and few places, if any, for kids to play.

A significant part of this has to do with the university’s growth itself — when I went to school we had fewer than 8,500 students on campus — but I think that only underscores the need for a new system.

Here’s the view from where I sit: During big games, the Grove has become a downright trashy, overcrowded and unfriendly place, filled punctuated with boorish fans on both sides who are rarely, if ever, held accountable for their conduct.

It shouldn’t be that way, and I would pay a premium if I knew it meant some serious changes could be made. Just my $.02.

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Dec 18, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

I have heard the tales...

…but I just want to say that in all my 46 years I have never seen one person pee outside a conventional bathroom (including the somewhat unconventional, but no less appreciated “Hotty Totty Potties!” hahaha) and the most boorish behavior I HAVE witnessed was when a bunch of thuggish moo u teens got in my face as my brother-in-law and I peacefully walked back to our car after the Egg Bowl in (insert appropriate year here…I’m too lazy to look it up…we lost 26 to something, so I didn’t commit it to memory).

I’m not saying there aren’t drunks from both sides who tend to ruin gameday for lots of folks…I am just saying I’ve not personally witnessed much of it .

"Happiness is riches, complaint is poverty, and the worst I ever had was wonderful." Brother Dave Gardner

by tlcreb17 on Dec 21, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

that at times it gets out of hand but I think it mainly gets out of hand with the very people who will occupy the Grove if it becomes a place where those who pay the most get the prime places. I thing as a whole those of us who show up every game are well mannered and respect the Grove and what it represents. An example is a group of LSU “fans” paid a commercial company for a spot near us this year and bumped someone who normally had the spot. They were trash before and after the game. They got the spot from a commercial company because they paid the commercial company more than the people who normally got the spot from the commercial company.

Once the commercial companies start owning the spots they will control the Grove as they almost do now. All the good spots will be owned by them and then what happens? Alabama or Lwho fans get all the spots on the Walk Of Champions? Just my $.02.

by GeorgiaReb on Dec 18, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

I have no problem with the University trying to rein in the Grove a bit.

It has become increasingly difficult to really enjoy the experience of the Grove over the past few seasons; increased numbers, jostling for position, people moving other’s possessions, etc. Not sure if this is necessarily the correct way to go about it, b/c unless the university is the one setting the tents up for the buyers, how do you adequately admister it? It will be interesting to see how they go about this, b/c once it is introduced, it is probably going to stick.

by RebelBarrister on Dec 18, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Logistics

I can see both sides of this argument, and I am honestly torn. I don’t want to change these things and have to pay to set up a tent, but I can also see the benefit of some organization and if the fee is not to high it might be worth it.

However, what I do not understand is how they are going to organize this so it is anything but a cluster****. When are people going to pay? In advance? Sure, some would be down for that. On site? You going to have people line up to get their spots on Friday? Seems unrealistic. Are they going to hire a bunch of security to keep the swarm of people from just going out there anyway? Seems expensive and not worth it.

Too many questions and potential for disaster.

Stawp g’tin tuchee-feelie, zzzEmoGoestzzz. I dun’t lyke noin ur Emoshuns!

by Role Player on Dec 18, 2009 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

About the Grove Thing

I see the pros of it but I’m sure since We Are… Ole Miss, the school will find some monumental way to screw it up.

If they want to sell the best spaces like they do with the best seats in the stadium (i.e. the people who have paid in the most money to the Loyalty Foundation for the longest time get the best seats) then I don’t have as much of a problem with it as I do with them just opening it up to anyone who’s willing to shell out money for the spots alone. Obviously people who are not Ole Miss fans won’t put the time and money into paying UMAA like people who are true fans would. I know this technically “rewards” people with more money who can afford to spend thousands of dollars to keep their seats on the 50 yard-line and punishes people like me who are only able to make it up once a season or so and just buy single-game tickets (don’t get me started on that issue). I just don’t want to see a situation with our best tailgating spots that happened with tickets this season. i.e. Huge blocks of tickets get bought up by people who have never even been to Oxford who then turn around and sell them online at a premium for games like Alabama and LSU to the highest bidder. I can think of nothing worse than the scenario someone was talking about where tacky LSU fans buy a spot from a commercial service and you’re stuck next to trash-talking Bammers one week, conrdog smelling Cajuns the next, then two weeks later it’s being tortured by cowbells.

I’m almost positive LSU has a “loyalty” system in place for people who want to get into the RV lot right next to Tiger Stadium. Why someone would pay money to spend the day inhaling diesel fumes I have no clue but that’s their dog and pony show, not mine. At any rate, you’ll never see “foreigners” in that lot and it’s (from what I’ve been told) the prime tailgating spot on campus.

The people from my hometown have been in the same spot for at least 20 years and I would have no clue where to find them if they weren’t there. I’m sure they would all be willing to go in for a spot because there are a lot of us who tailgate there. But for a single family who’s been in the same spot for years I’d think it would be a lot more of a financial burden. So I can see both sides of it.

I’m with Role Player… too many questions and potential for disaster.

by Catfish Row on Dec 18, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

I don't care about the Grove

But I’ve been looking for a Rebels in the Pros segment for weeks. I can think of one man I’d like to beat if I don’t get it (see what I did there?).

I’ll just do my own summary.

Patrick Willis (SF) continued to dismantle everyone in his path with 6 tackles against the Eagles.
Derrick Burgess (NE) had 6 tackles with a sack against Buffalo.
Ashlee Palmer (BUF) had a pair of tackles against New England.
Eli Manning (if you need this, get off the internet now) destroyed Washington tonight with 3 TDs, 0 INTs, and 268 yards.

I wouldn’t want to step on OMtB’s toes, but I would definitely pick Mike Wallace (Pittsburgh) for old balls Rebel of the Week. He got some serious love for his two huge catches (79 yards, 2 TDs) to put down the Packers in dramatic fashion. If you don’t already know about this, you must not have seen anything on ESPN in the past two days.

I get crunk 25 days a week!

by 25 Days a Week on Dec 22, 2009 5:04 AM EST reply actions  

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