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Rebel Roundup - 11/3/09 - A Shoutout to Zac Etheridge

Tigers injured safety Zac Etheridge visits teammates | Ledger-Inquirer.com
I remember when Zac laid there on the field, temporarily paralyzed as a result of his head and neck being accidentally rattled hard by Antonio Coleman and Rodney Scott.  I was scared.  I was truly scared that I had seen something horrible.  I was afraid for Etheridge's well being and future.  Seeing these pictures and this article on his long, yet optimistic road to recovery has assuaged whatever worries I had.  Honestly, this should brighten up your Wednesday morning a little bit.  Godspeed, Zac.  It's not often that a guy can tear ligaments in his neck and crack a vertebra and handle it as well as you seem to be.

SEC preview I CBSSports.com
HEY LOOK OVER HERE!  Pay no regards to that flaming helicopter tailspinning down into a canyon of magma.  I've got something which will cheer you up or, at least, distract you: basketball!  These next few links are basketball previews and prognostications from various media outlets.  Now, if you'll go back to my self-pitying diatribe from yesterday, you'll know not to put too much stock in whatever it is the media says will happen, but that doesn't make their thoughts uninteresting.  CBS' Gary Parrish, a fan of loosely fastened collars and mousse, says we'll finish 2nd in the West and make our first trip to the big dance since 2002.  Oh, and this link has a video. 

SEC preview: Experience, talent to highlight league | FOX Sports
FOX, the great conservative evil-hate juggernaut, has said that,

Ole Miss needs to stay healthy. Guards Chris Warren, Eniel Polynice and Trevor Gaskinsall were out for either the entire season or the majority of it. With the trio healthy, the Rebels could win the SEC West.

I agree.  I also get the feeling that the guy who wrote this is assuming that Mississippi State's superstar recruit Renardo (RETARDO lmao!) Sidney won't be cleared, as he has the Rebels atop the West. 

The country's top backcourts in 2009-10 | FOX Sports
The Rebels come in at #12, only behind Kentucky in the SEC.  The author mentions John Wall, a Wildcat freshman who was one of the nation's top high school point guards a year ago, as reasoning behind this ranking.  While Kentucky could certainly have one of the nation's best set of guards by the end of the season, the Rebels can certainly boast the conference's best in terms of actual collegiate experience and success.

Students Need Chant to let South Rise | Some Moron from Hattiesburg
I confessed to a good FotC last night with regards to an addiction I have: I cannot avoid confronting and calling out idiots.  I know we've all advocated the idea of letting this issue die on The Cup, but then one of the dumbest letters to the editor of the Hattiesburg American ever publishedin the last few weeks pops up and restirs my pot.  Look at this:

In this time when our state should be seeking every means to improve our image and economic level, it is asinine that a university administration seeks to ban use of chants or cheers to rally our future leaders around the positive values in our state.

Yeah, nothing stimulates a state's economy like chanting "The South Will Rise Again" at the end of a fucking song during a fucking football game.  Every time I hear those students chant, I can just smell the greenbacks flowing into the state's budget.  And, to a significant majority of people (I'm talking all over here), the term hardly beckons images of the "positive values in our state," nor is that really the motive of the chanters.  And then, there's this: 

 [W]hy not hire administrators who are more interested in our state's future...encouraging the desire to improve our state.

No wonder Mississippi is the lowest state in economic opportunities!

I'll never get this.  This guy truly believes that the Ole Miss administration's discouraging of a slew of stupid students from screaming a chant used by the Ku Klux Klan is detrimental to the economy of the state of Mississippi.  I bet this guy reads his horoscope every morning on the way to his acupuncturist.

Take a dozen people who are adamently for the chanting of TSWRA.  Put them in a room.  Watch their interactions and record their conversations for, say, thirty minutes.  Then do the same for people who are adamantly against the chant.  Once you've done this, compare the two and tell me which of those groups is going to do more to help the State of Mississippi.  Let's look at some folks against this chant: your faithful bloggeurs here; Dan Jones (OMG HE IS A FASCIST), the former chairman of the American Heart Association; Shepard Smith, the highest paid person in cable news; and the Associated Student Body which, ideally, is a collection of the most driven and forward thinking students on campus.  Now, the folks for the chant: a bunch of idiots on facebook and some white supremacists. 

Okay, I'm moving on before I give myself a damn aneurism. 

University Merger Talks | The Clarion Ledger
With the budget crisis Mississippi has seemingly been going through for as long as I can remember somehow getting worse over the last couple of years, talks of merging The Valley with Delta State and The W with Mississippi State are becoming more widely accepted.  I doubt it happens because the consolidation of a few useless schools with a few more-useful schools in order to create an overall efficient academic system would make sense, and Mississippi government doesn't allow sense-making.  It's in the state Constitution or something.  Oh, and being how this is a Clarion Ledger article, the comment threats are a regular treasure trove of bizarre hyperbole, misspellings, subtle racism, bizarre uses of syntax, and logical fallacies.

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On the merger issue...

State taking on MUW would be a mistake. I disagree with labeling smaller schools as “useless” just because they aren’t large. Seriously, MUW is consistently ranked as a top public liberal arts university. It produces high quality graduates from the impressive Education and Nursing departments, and it has a strong history. The name change is long overdue, but merging the school with State would be like giving a nice, new CD to a coke head. He may find a use for it, but it ain’t going to be what you’d like.

by RightRev on Nov 4, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I label them as "useless"

because we’re not getting much with regards to returns on the investment put into establishing these schools.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 4, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How much of that is the individual school's fault

and how much is a lack of outside income (see: the atheletics programs at other schools). I’m certainly not in favor of having our higher learning system hemorrhaging money, but I’d argue that expecting a full return is missing the point of having public education. Some schools are able to be more self-sufficient because of non-academic infrastructure (again, sports and all that comes with it), but other schools don’t have that luxury. At some point, funding education based on quality has to be a main priority, especially when there are other schools in the state that drain money and consistently have issues with re-accreditation and meeting minimum academic standards (I’m not talking about Ole Miss, State, or USM here).

by RightRev on Nov 4, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think expecting a great return is exactly the point of higher education.

The state founds universities on the ideal that the students the university produces will ultimately benefit the state through better civic behavior, intellectual pursuits, hard work, and (here’s the big one) tax revenue.

I guess we just disagree on that.

I do see your point about how athletics gives Ole Miss, State, and USM an advantage.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

on great return in that sense. Students become a long term investment on the state’s behalf, and ideally, those students will eventually pay back in those means that you listed. I’m talking about the short term concerns that are fueling the discussions of these mergers. Running universities is expensive, and in hard economic times, there can be a desire to cut back what is seen as extraneous. Schools that don’t pull their own weight because of disadvantages beyond their control seem to fit that category, regardless of how they perform their actual functions.

Obviously, I don’t have any hard data to back this up, but from what I’ve seen of MUW, a large number of graduates from the school stay in the state and do work that would be viewed as beneficial in the long term (graduates of the aforementioned Nursing and Education programs).

Ultimately, the people who are making these calls aren’t interested in the type of return that you’re talking about; they’re interested in cutting back here and now. The schools that don’t have the infrastructure to be self-sufficient are the ones that tend to get the longest looks in that area, regardless of their relative merits or long-term return potential.

by RightRev on Nov 4, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We should have consolidated the University system in the 1920s...

…but we didn’t.

And the point is not that graduates of The W, Valley, Delta State, Alcorn, and Jackson State don’t contribute beneficially to the state in some way. It’s that the return they do contribute does not equal or justify the public investment in so many separate state institutions. This has been the problem with regard to financing state universities even during robust economic times.

The intelligent compromise would be to consolidate into a system where degree programs would be based in satellite campuses of a unified state school. And, because athletics are not a dismissible issue due to the revenues they generate, some sort of compromise would obviously have to be reached. For this site, this is the more appropriate vein of conversation relevant to consolidation. It’d be interesting to hear what RCR readership had to say.

Personally, I’d have no problem ditching my loyalty to the Ole Miss Rebels in favor of an integrated, single state-wide athletic program, one that would undoubtedly become competitive with other nationally elite programs in many sports.

by Rh0d3$t@r on Nov 4, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am not a fence-sitter on issues like this, but …

for the first time in my life (on issues like this…) I see both sides’ points and I am torn over who to sit with.

I guess I’ll just sit on my hands and take care of my family, as there are more important things are falling out of the sky around me.

"Happiness is riches, complaint is poverty, and the worst I ever had was wonderful." Brother Dave Gardner

by tlcreb17 on Nov 4, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

should have specified the FDWL issue...but I figure...

…most folks in here are smart enough to figure it out…

"Happiness is riches, complaint is poverty, and the worst I ever had was wonderful." Brother Dave Gardner

by tlcreb17 on Nov 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great News and Godspeed to Zac

I happened upon “The Ole Miss Football Collectors Vault” at the bookstore yesterday (It’s amazing. Buy it now and thank me later.) There was a big spread on Chucky Mullins, and that really brought Zac’s injury home for me. Many prayer and best of luck for a speedy recovery. On another note, I apoligize for the idiocy of one of my fellow Hattiesburg residents. Be assured that this is not the sentiment of the majority of us. Hell, I can’t remember hearing many, if any, people talking about TSWRA. .

by TheOnlySouthernMissRebelFan on Nov 4, 2009 1:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

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