Post Game: MSU
Well, this isn't going to be long-winded. I don't feel like making excuses, criticizing coaches or players, or belittling MSU fans. I don't feel like analyzing the game, because there wasn't much to analyze. I don't feel like it, because once I got the initial frustration out of my system, I wasn't crushed by this loss. I was... annoyed.
So let's get it out in the open without sugar-coating or over-analyzing it; we were thoroughly out-coached and out-played today, and we failed to capitalize on the chance to go to a great bowl we've never been to and play a prestigious team we've never played. Next year, we're likely to beat State in a blowout, but it won't matter much, because we're infinitely less likely to be hunting for our 9th win. This was a year when we needed to beat them, and we came out with a poor game plan on both sides of the ball, and a lackluster effort to match.I sincerely hope that the coaches and players learned not to overlook an MSU team with nothing to play for. That kind of effort was tough to watch. It's hard to cheer for a team when you don't respect the effort they bring to the field.
I really wish that some of our fans wouldn't get so bent out of shape over this loss. That sounds funny coming from me (I fumed for a good 15 minutes afterwards, said some silly things), but really... don't give MSU fans the satisfaction. We hung around for a while and congratulated the passing State folks. Some of them were nice, but some of them seemed genuinely bothered that we weren't acting like dicks about it. Don't feed their need to make us the bad guys; it's bad for both schools.
As Ghost mentioned earlier, some Ole Miss fan tried to pick a fight with Ivory Tower, seemingly because IT wasn't acting pissed-off enough over the loss. IT, being more of a lover than a fighter, was able to put this fellow in his place with more wit and class than I was presently willing or able to employ. IT, thanks for not making me fight a guy 5 inches taller than me to defend your honor. It probably would've ended badly. Seriously though (somewhat talking to self): getting torn up over losing to State is ridiculous. My strategy (adopted today) is to play it off and be too nice to them. You should try it, too.
As much as I feel obligated to cuss and rant, I really can't do it. The team royally pissed me off, maybe to the extent where I've temporarily lost interest. The weekend was fun, and I guess we'll still go to a decent bowl. Could be worse: we could live in Starkville.
Hotty Toddy, and goodnight.
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it's gonna be alright
I think the team was emotionally spent from the lsu game, yes it’s a rivalry game, but things got out of control in the 3rd quarter (similar to the auburn game), this was the only game that our defense just didn’t play up to their level. This is the SEC, bama almost lost yesterday, everybody is beating up on each other and sometimes you come up on the short end of the stick but, fortunately this year we have had good wins against arkansas, lsu, and tennessee. We are going to a good bowl AGAIN, the team will get more practice time that will be important for all the younger players for next year. We have a better program, another year with 8 wins, I remember when Ole Miss struggled to get 6 wins & that was with an upset. while today was disappointing I am very proud of our seniors and what they have accomplished. I appreciate our staff and the hard work they put in. It could be worse, you could be notre dame….
by hotstove97 on Nov 29, 2009 3:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very well put
by TheOnlySouthernMissRebelFan on Nov 30, 2009 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Why does everyone insist we were outcoached?
State has used the triple option with Relf all year long. Normally they don’t average 15 yards per go at it, but I’m sure we were prepared for it. And when Relf did throw the ball, he was spot on. (4th and 15?) State put one on us physically. They came out of halftime and wanted it more than we did.
We looked in slow motion. Our secondary couldn’t tackle. Walker looked like a giant turd. How did Lewis not force Dixon back to the inside on the supposed touchdown? I thought they quit on the Bumphis touchdown play. Is Relf greasing his jersey? WTF? Maybe the coaches didn’t motivate us enough, but it’s the effing Egg Bowl for crying out loud. Players should be able to motivate themselves for a rivalry game.
State really does suck though. Cowbells? Do they really think that is cool? Secretly, I think they know what a douche bag institution of which they belong. Cowbells is a sign of giving in to their inner-douche.
Did you notice they bang the cowbells in rythm to Sandstorm? (or whatever the name of that techno song that is now required listening during collegiate football games) We lost to a team who thinks it’s cool to combine techo music with cowbells. (Bang! kills self.)
I hate to even play State, much less lose to them. Maybe I should root for a Big 12 team just so I won’t have to listen to their stupid asses banging cowbells every other year. I wonder which team in the Tecmo Bowl league has the hottest chicks.
Did you say something about being nice to State, WW? And if any State fans are enjoying me wallowing in misery, please go to a mirror and play techno while bouncing and ringing your cowbell. Make a bucktooth face if you aren’t already.
by rpmjr on Nov 29, 2009 4:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What do I know
but to me it felt our offensive game plan assumed that as MSU attempted to shut down Dexter, the long ball would be open. In other words, we decided it was time again to see if Jevan’s arm could win it for us. We didn’t see a lot of the screens (I don’t think the one to Bolden that had been successful in several games was tried at all) and the short 5-7 yard pases to the sidelines that helped us best LSU and Arkansas. If the long ball had worked more (and there were some close calls), we’d probably be saying the plan was brillant, but we just didn’t win enough of those battles, and Dexter misread some holes (I think) making him less dangerous and less of a reason for the safeties and CBs to bite on the fakes to him. Also, MSU was assignment-sound for the most part and our pass protection was not very good. In that way, we were outcoached – we had a gameplan that the MSU defense was able to render ineffective. I would have preferred we adjusted to that and gone back to what had worked previously, but, again, what do I know?
by 18mph on Nov 29, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On several of those long balls
we seriously missed Mike Wallace. Jevan was just barely overthrowing most of them. A year ago, Wallace would have had the ability to run under them, make the catch and streak to the endzone. Our current receivers simply lack the speed to do this. It’s a shame Jevan was never able to adjust to this.
by ssmund on Nov 29, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive was on the sideline for most of the game.
Rebs had the ball 3 time in the first half. Twice the offense stalled in (or close) to the red zone, and the third time Hodge caught the circus pass. 3 times is not very many opportunities in the first half.
In the second half, State hogged the ball for most of the third quarter. The defense could not get off the field. When the offense did get on the field, they were pressing, trying too much.
We lost on the defensive side of the ball.
by rpmjr on Nov 29, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
but if a couple of the long balls had worked and we had hit them in the mouth early, I suspect the outcome would have been different. On the defensive side, it just seemed to be a total lack of execution. Kendrick Lewis, who is normally a terric tackler, missed several key tackles and bit on the run for the killer 4th and 9+(?) in the 4th, and Johnny Brown apparently doesn’t know what an assignment is. The defense just looked totally drained.
by 18mph on Nov 29, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coming from the land of...
pink chinos and bow ties, an Ole Miss fan calling anyone a douche bag is rich.
Good luck in your bowl game.
by hailstate on Nov 30, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, Dallas or Tampa should be nice. good luck with your clock.
by RedStickRebel on Nov 30, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope this year's Egg Bowl banner hanging up in the locker room...
will include a picture of Houston Dale wondering who the hell the tall, black kid is gashing his vaunted defense. You’d think a team that beat Tebow on the road would be better prepared for Relf/Dixon.
Seriously, Dallas is nice, but the Cotton Bowl sucks. Never been to the Cap One Bowl, but it has to be better than getting up at the crack of dawn to sit in 40 degree weather. Not a slight at OM, just an observation about the CB.
by hailstate on Nov 30, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cotton Bowl is now played in Jerry World.
Of course, you’d know that if your football team had been anywhere outside of Memphis for a bowl this side of 2000.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot about that....
Shit, forget what I said about the Cotton Bowl — I’d love a chance to play in the Cowboys Stadium.
aGAIN, I wrote I wasn’t slighting the OM football team. Congrats on your bowl and your season.
by hailstate on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The season still
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 11:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't even finish my response.
I accidentally hit enter on my BlackBerry. So for you to call me “fucking touchy” is—to borrow your verbiage—rich. I wanted to say “the season still sucks because two of our four SEC losses are really unacceptable,” but instead I will let you have your “zomg I pissed the Old Piss fans off” boner in peace.
I will say, you’re lucky we damn near never drop the banhammer. Your douchey “don’t show up to the party until after my team wins” kind of nonsense would have you kicked out of most places. You’re welcome
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 12:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't even finish my response.
I accidentally hit enter on my BlackBerry. So for you to call me “fucking touchy” is—to borrow your verbiage—rich. I wanted to say “the season still sucks because two of our four SEC losses are really unacceptable,” but instead I will let you have your “zomg I pissed the Old Piss fans off” boner in peace.
I will say, you’re lucky we damn near never drop the banhammer. Your douchey “don’t show up to the party until after my team wins” kind of nonsense would have you kicked out of most places. You’re welcome
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 12:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
And then I doubled up on my response.
The moral is, Blackberries are fickle.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Dallas would be rough
…for ya’ll. State wouldn’t know what to do with itself in a $1 Billion indoor stadium. Get ya’ll out of the cow pasture and you’ll just be lost.
Know what the fuck you’re talking about before you post dumbass shit. Have fun staying at home over New Years. We’ll enjoy our second straight post-New Years bowl. When was the last time State did that?
by the_drake on Nov 30, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody here wears pink chinos.
But the cheap, trite insults you have there sure are nice. I’d hate for something to happen to them.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was replying in kind...
to rpmjr cheap, trite insults.
by hailstate on Nov 30, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cheap, trite insults?
I was trying for hateful but thoughtful and well articulated.
by rpmjr on Nov 30, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright fine
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
hotstove97,
Good point. They were probably spent after the LSU game, like Arkansas was after the Florida game.
Christopher Martin Gonzalez
by GonzoHog on Nov 29, 2009 8:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
We probably have less of an excuse there than you guys do
since we actually won our emotionally draining game. If you want, we can try to explain to you what that’s like.
by The Unemployed Economist on Nov 29, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Gonzo
How does it feel to have lost to a buffoon?
by artiger on Nov 29, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I have permission to hate this DawgFan guy just as much as I hate Gonzo?? I know the point of this post was to be cordial but that guy just sucks.
by 7thYearJunior on Nov 29, 2009 10:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
*lives in Starkville*
WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! Take me with you!
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Nov 29, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice way of putting it.
Had we not beaten LSU, this one probably would’ve had me irrate. And, while I was certainly aggravated, this one just doesn’t sting like it normally does. State deserved to win the game. We simply weren’t prepared on defense. It’s as if whatever offense Nix had prepared us to defend didn’t show up in Starkville. We just weren’t ready for the Chris Relf show. We knew what they were going to do the entire second half and couldnt’ stop it. I didn’t think there was an offense in the conference that could shove it down our D-line’s throat the way State did yesterday.
On the bright side, I was glad to see the offense keep coming back and keeping us within striking distance. It could’ve gotten a lot uglier were it not for our 4th quarter TDs. Much like the Auburn game, the turnovers prevented any chance we may have had of staging a comeback.
by ssmund on Nov 29, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the basketball rebs...
Are up 25-14 on a decent corpus christi team with 7:56 left in the first half. Just in case anyone at the cup cares. The crowd is pretty slim. Yall come out. “C dubya” and “rico” are money from behind the arc
by the love IS gone... to omaha on Nov 29, 2009 4:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
i may be out of the loop
But does anyone know if murphy holloway is hurt/suspended? Because he hasn’t taken off his warm ups today. Just wondering.
by the love IS gone... to omaha on Nov 29, 2009 5:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I hope Nutt blows this one up
and hangs it in the locker room.

DAMN IT TO HELL!!! I WAS going to say something nice about LSU... but my clock ran out.
by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Nov 29, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No one had a sling-shot handy?
I will admit that, it’s pretty good though. You know that if the roles were reversed we’d love to do something like that. hopefully we’ll have the chance next year. It won’t take us 364 days to come up with ours, but should still have the same effect.
by HaterOfAllThingsCrimsonAnd-OrTide-ish on Nov 30, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"It won’t take us 364 days to come up with ours, but should still have the same effect."
Ole Miss already has done the same thing. Remember “Many Happy Returns” video card after the 45-0 blowout?
Anyway, aGAIN, enjoy Arlington on NYD. I’ll be on the farm, taking the tractor down to the general store to buy my new overalls for the year. [That was for Jay Cutler and anyone else who thinks I was being a jerk]
by hailstate on Nov 30, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Remember 'Many Happy Returns'"
Remember that was a response. We hardly ever instigate; we just respond to your witless and childish banter – though this year was witty. Prepare for a disappointing one game season next year.
[I know you’re not a jerk]
by Role Player on Nov 30, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Live your stereotype.
Please. It’s convenient for us.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 30, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
gonzohog
I am amazed with all your “insight” that you post almost exclusively to THE CUP and almost none to the arkansas board. I do not understand the obsessive compulsive focus on Nutt by you and the ark fanbase. I guess you feel he derailed the hogs “destiny to greatness” ,more likely he did the best with what he had. He was fired/ resigned whatever.. we didn’t hire him away like auburn did with tuberville. So why are you worried about us? If Nutt has the same success as he did at Ark, I would be thrilled. I understand we will have down years, but not orgeron down years. We will always be competitive under Nutt and he has a great academic record with graduating football players.
As for your hogs, congrats on your season, your number 1 in the SEC in Offense, however, until you learn to play defense and recruit defensive players.. you will be a rehashed version of hal mummes air raid offense.
Maybe instead of posting so much here you can start a grass roots effort to get back into the big 12 where defense is secondthought.. but oh wait… you’d still be the redheadded stepchild that you are in the SEC…
hope your bowl game doesn’t come down to a fieldgoal….ouch!
by hotstove97 on Nov 30, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Gonzohog is one of Houston Nutt's jilted lovers...
Someone had to say it.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Nov 30, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey 4NationalChampionships....
You still have that poster of Saban above the bed or did Mommy finally get tired of hearing “what goes beating off , er bump, in the night”?
by HaterOfAllThingsCrimsonAnd-OrTide-ish on Dec 1, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ho Hum.
I must agree with WW, this game was more of an annoyance than anything else. Even less of a disappointment than the South Carolina and Auburn games. ( I am still a little raw over the Auburn loss). Maybe I’m just getting old or maybe its that I no longer live in Mississippi, but the Egg Bowl is just, well, anti climatic.
And the truth is, we where flat out whipped. I kept thinking, how did this MSU team win only four times this year? And, the converse, how did this Ole Miss team win eight times this year?
Nothing much to say but hello Dallas, maybe, and congratulations MSU.
by Loxley Rebel on Nov 30, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
We'd have won if....
we spent all year gameplanning for this game.
“may tha udder 11 be danged. we on’t care if’n we win only wun games as long as we win that-ther egg trophy.”
We were a little to busy going 8-4, beating LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee and 5 others to prepare for State’s year-in-the-making scheme. If only “that-ther egg trophy” was like a magical 3-Win bonus egg or something, then maybe State’s season wouldn’t be over.
State fan’s just be glad you won’t be going to the Cotton Bowl (or any bowl) because the mass amounts of indoor plumbing and giant TVs would just blow you fucking mind to bits….
and one more thing. How the hell did they still give Dixon the TD on that pylon play???? what is more definite than seeing his knee hit the ground before the ball touches the pylon? seriously?!?!?!? to hell with the replay system. We neeeeeeeever get the “close calls”.
by HaterOfAllThingsCrimsonAnd-OrTide-ish on Nov 30, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Love that screen name,
wish I’d thought of it first. Couldn’t agree more. Reviewing the play in the booth = Rebels about to take another one up the gazooba.
by Loxley Rebel on Nov 30, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A literal hater, I see
It is telling, though, that you mention you are “passionate” about Ole Miss only after letting everyone know how you feel about the Tide.
Question: “How do you feel about your wife?”
Your answer: “Well, I hate that good-for-nothing slut Jennifer Anniston…..I love my wife.”
Seems a bit superfluous, no?
Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
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by animalcracker on Nov 30, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
I’ve actually hated Alabama longer than I’ve loved Ole Miss, so I think it’s fitting. I sort of see where you are going with your example, but not really an accurate comparison.
by HaterOfAllThingsCrimsonAnd-OrTide-ish on Dec 1, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
I hated Auburn longer than I loved Alabama. I used to be indifferent to Auburn until Tuberville stoked the haaaate. Then I did the grad stint in Tuscaloosa, and had great experiences there which made me a Tide fan. I also met real Auburn fans, and my hate for them was cast in iron.
I know I’m responding to a Bama hater as a Bama fan, but I learned not to be oversensitive, so hate on, brotha! There’s enough love for Ole Miss to go around.
"I feel like I’m in The Sound of Music and the theme is "How Do You Solve a Problem Like Jevan?"
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Dec 1, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grammar
“State fans” not “fan’s”. My mistake. Sorry if that affected the credibility of the post for you educated Ole Miss fans.
For any State-fan readers….this subsequent post is likely to confuse the hell out of you, so please just disregard.
by HaterOfAllThingsCrimsonAnd-OrTide-ish on Nov 30, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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