Trindon Holliday: All Hype
by Juco All-American on Nov 19, 2009 3:00 PM EST
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Recently, I read an interview by a recruit that Ole Miss is heavily pursuing. He named LSU his leader, stating as one of his reasons that he liked the way they use Trindon Holliday. This prospect, apparently, fashions his style of play after Holliday's.
I've heard pundit after pundit talk about Trindon Holliday and what an explosive player he is. Sure he is. He won the national championship in collegiate track's 100 meter dash. If he gets into open field, and no one has an angle on him, he's gone.
But... he doesn't. Les Miles doesn't get him the ball enough, and Holliday doesn't do enough with the ball when he does get it.
Trindon Holliday's career stats through this week:
| Year | Rushing Attempts | Rushing Yards | Receptions | Receiving Yards | PRs | PR Yards | KRs | KR Yards |
| 2006 | 14 | 172 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 5 | 162 |
| 2007 | 53 | 364 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 19 | 468 |
| 2008 | 21 | 114 | 2 | 33 | 30 | 279 | 27 | 609 |
| 2009 | 14 | 59 | 3 | 36 | 21 | 210 | 15 | 346 |
The most glaring stat: 4 years. 7 touchdowns. Is that what anyone expected from the fastest player in college football? Sure, he's not a goal line or short yardage back, but you would think that, with the opportunities he has been given, he would have scored at least ten long touchdowns.
But that's just it. He hasn't been given opportunities on offense. In 2007, he averaged over seven yards per carry, but he only got the ball 53 times. 7.4 yards per carry. That's far above average, but Les Miles didn't give him the football. Let's not forget that in 2007, LSU won a national championship. That year, Holliday touched the ball on offense 55 times. He hasn't touched it that many times in the two years following that combined.
Against Washington this season, in a game that was a big-play away from being a sure LSU victory (instead of a close one), Holliday touched the ball once on offense, eeking out one lone yard on his rushing attempt.
Yes. Trindon Holliday is really really fast, but is he really the returner that LSU fans make him out to be? This season, his punt return stats put him at 11th in the country in yards per return, but if you take away his 50 yard return versus Tulane, a terrible team that LSU beat 42-0, he is put back at a paltry 8 yards per return, placing him near the bottom of the top 50 punt returners nationally. His kickoff returns don't rank in the top 50 this season.
So if he's not a return specialist and is not used as an offensive weapon, what is he? A misuse of talent. And that misuse of talent is one of the many reasons that once-sane (if that's possible) LSU fans are upset with Les Miles.
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BOOOOM.
Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.
by JimHalpert on Nov 19, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm having trouble interpreting this.
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by Juco All-American on Nov 19, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people point at Crowton for that.
Holliday had some issues with being a little less than surehanded, and people did kick away from him for a while. Chad Jones did an OK job returning as well.
Yeah, a lot of us scratch our heads sometimes as to why Holliday doesn’t see the ball more. Even if he’s not catching the ball well, there are other ways to get the ball to him (see: McCluster). Holliday’s (mis)use on offense (added to the Shepherd thang) has a few people upset with Crowton. Me, I think it’s a bit early to get pitchforks and torches.
by artiger on Nov 19, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Crowton has been there like a year and a half
That’s 4 years of shit stats, hoss.
by Rebels7 on Nov 19, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not saying Holliday is Dexter McCluster because he isn't...
but I’ve been saying this for a while about LSU. I don’t see why they don’t get him the ball more than they do. Run slip screens, reverses, etc.
At worst, at least give opposing DCs something else to prepare for. LSU doesn’t even do that.
by RebelBruiser on Nov 19, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess it was Juco who I was talking to about this
and about how the media picks and chooses who they love and hardly sway from their decisions. For example, Tebow is having the worst offensive year of his three as the starting Florida QB, yet he’s likely to win a Heisman.
The same kind of blind media love goves for Trindon Holliday. Every time he steps on the field, Gary Danielson leaps from his seat, cums up his britches, and screams “oh emm gee it’s the FaStEsT gUy In FoOtBaLL!” Then, Holliday is tackled for a no gain…
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 19, 2009 4:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of which...
… did you know that Chad Jones was a pitcher?
The media is shockingly lazy.
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by Poseur on Nov 19, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His future is in track
On kickoff returns, teams avoid him like the plague, but I don’t know why. He has poor vision and doesn’t change directions very quickly. On offense, we never throw him the ball. He’s 5’6 at best and doesn’t have the hands to be any kind of receiver. Les is partial to bruisers who can run up the middle, so he doesn’t get traditional carries as a running back. Also, that’s not a guy I want picking up a blitz. The only way he’s really used is in end arounds where he tries to make it to the outside and take off, but by 2008, every team new that was the plan any time he was in. That’s the scoop. I have never once heard an LSU fan overhype him this year. We’re aware. Everyone is except announcers that love being able to say, “he’s the fastest guy in the history of college football”. That’s true, and he can shock you with his speed sometimes, but overall, he’s a track guy, not a football player. So congrats on accurately calling out our 5th string running back and punt/kick returner.
BTW, this basically ensures that he will have his best game in two years.
by Big McLargeHuge on Nov 19, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have never once heard an LSU fan overhype him this year. We’re aware.
I haven’t heard it from your fans either.
BTW, this basically ensures that he will have his best game in two years.
I know. Believe me. I have contemplated taking it down at least once every five minutes since I posted it.
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by Juco All-American on Nov 19, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Back at the turn of the decade, Florida recruited a promising sprinter named John Capel. After leaving UF, he made it to the 200m finals in Sydney, and he won the 200m and was part of the winning 4×100m team in the 2003 world championships. As a football player… well, let’s just say he couldn’t even return kickoffs effectively.
Holliday’s unquestionably a lot better than Capel… but yeah, there’s an important distinction to be drawn between a track guy in pads, and a football player who runs track, and it often isn’t drawn in the media, who conflate guys like Holliday with guys like Demps (157 carries for 1182 yards & 22 receptions for 182 yards.)
by peachy rex on Nov 20, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT
He’s about to light us up for 4 TD’s!
by Charles2006 on Nov 19, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but he's the fastest player in the SEC! a bunch of ramble and then ...TEBOW!...that sums up your next CBS coverage this weekend.
Did you hear? Tennessee are getting new uniforms again. All orange with accessories for the hands and legs!
by Destindune on Nov 19, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ask Houston Nutt about Trindon Holliday
Specifically, the 2006 Arkansas-LSU game. Bad times…
by John Expat on Nov 19, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Awesome...
a kick return. What about 2007 and 2008? How well was Holliday used against Nutt in those seasons?
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by Juco All-American on Nov 19, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ask Arkansas about Ole Miss
Specifically the last year in football, basketball, baseball, and football again.
You bitches ain’t shit.
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by JimHalpert on Nov 20, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, when was the last time an Arkansas team beat an Ole Miss team in one of the Big 3?
I think I found it. It was the April 26, 2008 when Arkansas swept a doubleheader in baseball. Since then, they’ve lost 2 football games, 2 basketball games, and 3 baseball games without beating Ole Miss in anything.
Ironically, Arkansas hasn’t beaten Ole Miss in any match up in the Big 3 sports since Houston Nutt coached his first game at Ole Miss.
by RebelBruiser on Nov 20, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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