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The banhammer was laid down on From Dixie With Love.  This much we know is true.  There was going to be backlash and there was going to be vitriol.  This much we also knew to be true.  What is a bit perplexing to me, though, is the degree to which this vitriol would be expressed. 

In perusing Deadspin, Dr. Saturday, and a slew of other sites, I see arguments which, from both sides of the issue, are lacking understanding, obtuse, and ignorant.  But most of all--and this comes chiefly from the pro TSWRA camp--I see arguments seeded in paranoia and delusion.  People truly believe that there are much greater forces and reasons behind this; that something other than a university chancellor's concern of his school's image is involved.

To several, anti-Americanism, Marxism, black nationalism, and a whole bushel of other nebulous and spooky forces are at work here; as the removal of an unnecessary and offensive chant from a gameday atmosphere certainly must be just one domino in a long line of encroachments on everything that make us free individuals... right?

But enough on that.  I'm done trying to convince folks that I'm not the one being naive.  I'm done trying to change peoples minds and I'm done with the insults and derision.

But let me run one more thing right by you, the stubborn, selfish students whose actions led directly to the removal of From Dixie With Love:


Star-divide

In twenty years, when you, hopefully as a successful member of the Ole Miss Alumni Association, are in the Grove with your families and old friends reliving the old times (remember, here they are not forgotten), this subject will be brought up.  Folks will say, "do you remember the tune to 'From Dixie With Love'?  Wasn't that a great song?"

With a grin, you will pause and say, "of course I do."  You'll wave your hand left and right with a slow and rhythmic "bum bum bummm bum bum ba da da daaaa da daaa daaaa."  You'll close your eyes briefly, as to take a quick pause from the conversation and remember the sensations associated with watching the Pride of the South warm up in the Grove, prepare the fans for gameday, and play the Rebels--win or lose--off of the field.  You'll remember that.  And you'll miss it.

It is at that moment, when you'll look down at your children, who you would never neglect to include in the Ole Miss gameday experience, and realize just how foolish you were back in your late teens and early twenties.

"What song is that?"  They'll ask.

"Oh, it's a song they used to play at before and after every single Ole Miss football game.  It was awesome."

"Well, then why don't they play it anymore?"

Maybe it's an emptiness.  Maybe it's a qick mental flash and a very temporary lapse in your senses.  Maybe it's a dull and chronic off-feeling in your gut.  Maybe time slows damn near to a stand still, if only for a second.  But whatever it is, it's the feeling you get when you think back on something you did, which you would later regret.  Something which, at the time, may have seemed like an excellent idea, only to become something which you wish you would have never been a part of.

Sure, chances are you'll look back at them and say "because the administration didn't want us cheering at the end of the song."  Hell, you may even go into specifics.  But you'll immediately realize how absolutely stupid you sound.  You'll even have difficulty convincing yourself of your argument.

Some of you may even say "because we were stupid and had the song taken away."  And some of you may even say that it was "time to move on."  But, regardless, you will know that you and the selfish, fatuous actions you and those around you took a part in did more to kill a true piece of the Ole Miss experience than anything Dan Jones and his band of God-hating, Stalinist Black Panthers could have ever done.

I'm not going to cuss you.  I'm not going to yell anymore.  The battle is over, despite the best efforts of many of you.  Just know that, one day, you will look back on this with a great deal of remorse.

 

Hotty Toddy.  Remember, we're all on the same team here, internet squabbles or not.

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For a minute....

I thought we were back to being a blog about sports.

by Juco All-American on Nov 12, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You're right, Juco.

Red Cup Rebellion isn’t the place to be discussing a highly controversial and much contested change to a part of the Ole Miss gameday experience. Not at all.

Don’t be obtuse.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 13, 2009 8:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

pop up ad?

what is this crap? I can’t even close the window to get to what I want to see. Some clip from my best friends wedding? how are we a targeted segment for this crap?!

by the DMc on Nov 12, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is it awful...

…that it gets a little easier every time? I was around for the flag, and that was damn near a 10-15 year battle and I was riled up…then I came to my senses.

 I wasn’t quite around for the Colonel; lived in Nashville at the time, BUT I kept up via the DM, and Daddy even grew out a white mustache and goatee in protest…years later he lost it to chemotherapy. I was not AS mad and even got a little creative imagining new mascots.

Now it took me all of a week to be pissed, renounce my Rebelness (then immediately take THAT back…not the first time either, see incidents 1 and 2), then shrug and say “yeah, well UT STILL sucks like a big orange. Where’s the tailgate?” That “Hotty Toddy” vid I posted last night may have had something to do with it; seeing that sea of students with penguin suits and glow sticks shouting in perfect unison damn near made me cry. Damn it Ole Miss, I just cain’t quit you.

I don’t think we’ll really lose the “Ole Miss” moniker. But if we do, will it hit me just as hard? Or will I just shrug and mutter “meh?”

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Nov 12, 2009 6:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'VE A SOLUTION....

WE SING THIS AT THE CLOSE OF EACH FOOTBALL GAME!

We are a band of brothers and native to the soil
Fighting for our Liberty, With treasure, blood and toil
And when our rights were threatened, the cry rose near and far
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star!

Hurrah!
Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

As long as the Union was faithful to her trust
Like friends and brethren, kind were we, and just
But now, when Northern treachery attempts our rights to mar
We hoist on high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

Hurrah!
Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand
Then came Alabama and took her by the hand
Next, quickly Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida
All raised on high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

Hurrah!
Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

Ye men of valor gather round the banner of the right
Texas and fair Louisiana join us in the fight
Davis, our loved President, and Stephens statesmen are
Now rally round the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

Hurrah!
Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

And here’s to brave Virginia, the Old Dominion State.
With the young Confederacy at length has linked her fate.
Impelled by her example, now other States prepare
To hoist on high the Bonnie Blue flag that bears a single star.

Hurrah!
Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

Then here’s to our Confederacy, strong we are and brave,
Like patriots of old we’ll fight, our heritage to save.
And rather than submit to shame, to die we would prefer
So cheer for the Bonnie Blue flag that bears a single star.

Hurrah!
Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

Then cheer, boys, cheer, raise a joyous shout
For Arkansas and North Carolina now have both gone out;
And let another rousing cheer for Tennessee be given
The single star of the Bonnie Blue Flag has grown to be eleven!

I am all for putting all the antiquities to rest and let the antebellum nostalgia remain antebellum. Even Georgia and Florida quit playing Dixie years ago. And i’ll bet a dime to a donut no one knows that the arrangement of Dixie The Pride of the South play is the University of Florida.

by TheRevCharlieT on Nov 12, 2009 7:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sad day

Yes, we will all look back on this for remorse. And the more I think about it, the more I’m convinced that I was wrong in blaming both the persistent students and Chancellor Jones. Only the persistent students are to blame. And I don’t care whether some of them continued to chant it not meaning to be offensive. They were warned of the consequences, they ignored the warning, and this is what we are left with, thanks to them. I will miss FDWL, but I am glad we no longer have TSWRA to hurt our public image/recruiting base/ overall unity of the Ole Miss family, etc.

PS: Sorry I got you so riled up yesterday, Ghost.

Sincerely,
A lily white Ole Miss alum whom was in a fraternity (but I grew up on a farm, not the suburbs)…..

by Mr. S on Nov 12, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we really have heard FDWL for the last time

Then it is a sad, sad time indeed. I think, however, that we haven’t heard it for the last time.

I hope so, at least. I surely do.

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just to be clear...

…it’s completely banned from ALL areas of campus? ’Cause I would almost understand if they kept it in the Grove, just not in the stadium. I could almost accept that.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Nov 12, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is mostly Dan's fault.

If you specifically tell 18 year-old’s not to do something, that is exactly what they are going to do. Teens are not reasoning humans. They simply react. The way they react to being told not to do a certain thing is to immediately do that very thing. There are two things that one could possibly glean from the chancellor’s decision to publicly ask students not to say TSWRA, either a) he is an absolute idiot who has no experience with how a recently pubescent mind works or b) he and the rest of our administration were looking for a reason to ban FDWL and continue to do away with everything “Southern” about our university. Now, I was never a huge supporter of TSWRA. I said it a few times, but I immediately stopped when FDWL was threatened, and I know a lot of people did the same. I just think this whole situation is was dealt with in a weird way. My conspiracy theories stem mainly from the suddenness and finality with which the situation was treated. If the administration had given the situation another couple of games, I think the chant would have completely died. I know that it had gotten a lot better. Football just won’t be the same without FDWL, and I feel like this whole thing could have been avoided if the chancellor had chosen to address the situation with a little more patience and understanding.

I was born in Mississippi, and I don't take any stuff from you, and if I hit you on your head, boy, it's got to make it black and blue.

by HolmesReb on Nov 12, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dan's fault. Riiiiiiiiight.

I hope, for your sake, you discontinue your attitude that everyone in life owes you 2, 3 or 4 chances.

I was a hellion at 18, too, bud. But I knew what consequences were. At 18-22, you are supposed to know that. The state of Mississippi and the Federal government believe that 18 year olds are old enough to understand consequences. Why should Dan Jones believe differently?

You are (presumably) 18 or older. It’s time to take the diaper off and be a big boy. “Well I’m going to do the opposite of what you say because I’m in college” got just the result it deserved. This shit lies at the feet of the students and no one else.

one foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal...

by Bill Fremp on Nov 12, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

College is about responsibility

We tell them not to kill too, if they did that would you want to give them another chance? When representative governments pass resolutions, do those who elected the representatives not have to follow the policies created? Dr. Jones is charged with leading the university and keeping it from harm, so why do people think he was taking part in a conspiracy when he did his job?

I think the answers to these questions a very clear, as are the repercussions that we now see. Until the students begin taking the responsibility they have seriously they can whine and groan. When they grow up and realize what they have done, then a lesson will have been learned. Which, incidentally, is the whole purpose of pursuing higher education.

by ARebel on Nov 12, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I'm on your side...

“When representative governments pass resolutions, do those who elected the representatives not have to follow the policies created?”

No. Nobody has to follow a resolution passed by a representative government.

by David. on Nov 12, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right,David

Nobody has to follow a resolution passed by a representative government but you can be made to wish you had.These dumbass spoiled kids were told SPECIFICALLY what would happen and they chose to call the bluff in the name of “expresssing themselves” or some dumb shit.Problem is,Jones wasn’t bluffing and these immature brats cost us all something that we enjoy about the gameday experience at Ole Miss.
I know something about dealing with the 18 year old crowd as I haver one at home.Just because I know that they will bust a damn gut to do the opposite of what I say doesn’t mean for one damn second that I’m just not going to say it.If they still go their own way there will be consequences as there were in this case.

by rightwingconspirator on Nov 13, 2009 7:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

It was made pretty clear what WOULD happen if they continued the chant, not what MIGHT happen. They did it anyway, so they have no one to blame but themselves.

There's a darkness on the edge of town.

by Evil Betty on Nov 13, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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