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Post-Game: Arkansas

PAY ATTENTION TO US!!!! Is it just me, or would the complete lack of coverage for today's game have been different if Arkansas wins? Sorry, the anti-Ole Miss conspiracy is gaining some credibility, at least in my head. I want the rest of the nation to join us in making fun of silly Arkansas fans today. Instead, I got to see Air Force/Utah and Indiana/Northwestern on Sportscenter, as well as coverage of a baseball game that was postponed due to rain (enthralling!!!), but didn't see Ole Miss until we were getting scored on by Arkansas in the Top Ten plays of the night. I wonder if Mark May's glasses contain a mind control chip that forces him to act like a smug, metrosexual, football-ignorant piece of dog shit, or if he's just always that way. More post-game thoughts after the jump.

 

Star-divide

So in the Florida game, the officials were about as observant and fair as a referee in a late 90's WWE match, distracted by a woman shaking her cleavage while Florida hits MSU with a metal folding chair. Good thing you suspended the officiating crew from last week's Florida game, SEC. That sort of monkey business just won't stand around here. Although I felt bad for State, I had a pretty hearty chuckle at Robert Eliot getting tackled by the crushing weight of his own douche-itude. 

On to more pressing matters...

Kent Austin is probably calling the plays now. Arkansas fans (I'll address you directly a few paragraphs down), I'll admit that I don't want Houston Nutt calling the plays. This game, we used intelligent playcalling, ran plays to set up later plays, took what the defense gave us, ran the offense with a nice tempo, and otherwise abused the defense from a strategic standpoint. That was probably Kent Austin's doing. This I will concede.

Dexter McCluster may be the best offensive threat in Ole Miss history not named Manning. A great QB can cure all woes, but a guy that's often just too fast to tackle is pretty effective, too. Find me another 170 pound guy in a BCS conference that can take 29 touches and carry a team on his back.

Pat Patterson: keep throwing him the ball. Also, Jesse Grandy and Ferbia Allen. But mainly Patterson. You have to love a 5-star caliber guy who will lay out for any ball that comes his way, drag guys along the field with him, run block like a maniac... I mean, this guy likes to play some fucking football. Let's facilitate his desire to do so.

Bradley Sowell (and the rest of the offensive line) played like a 14 year-old who'd just gotten dumped for the first time for the first several games of the season. Today, he was pumped. He went after people. He was good. I can't imagine the reason for the turnaround (or for the shit-tastic play in the first place) but hey, thanks for showing up while we can still have an awesome season.

We could really use a fullback who can get to the perimeter a little better. Powe is not that guy. Neither, apparently, is Hartmann. Anyone?

I loved the playcalling. Screens should have been a cornerstone of our offensive scheme from day one. You can't let a defense get used to pinning their ears back against a line like ours and going for the ball. The passing game was much less vertically oriented, which really helped as well. When we needed to throw it downfield, we had some space to do so, because we'd passed it short to set it up. Amazing.

The defense did not play it's best game, which is pretty great, because they still looked good. Tackling needs to improve. Michael Smith was able to bounce off of guys all game long. We had trouble bringing guys down after the catch, which is a new problem that needs to get fixed, STAT. We had some unlikely guys step up today, so that's fun to talk about. Lamark Armour had an amazing sack. Marcus Tillman made some real noise against the run, coming off blocks nicely a few times. Jonathan Cornell had a great game. Powe continued to have the most enthusiastic offsides penalties in the history of football, but you know that gets in the O-line's head, because if he jumps the snap successfully, I've got news for you: you aren't about to block him.

Defensive playcalling was great, and if you're an Arkansas fan, you have to be upset about Petrino's inability to adjust. To be fair, this game was an ambush for Petrino and Arkansas. Ole Miss hasn't played well all year, hasn't called a good game offensively, haven't given teams enough good material to study. How could they have known that we'd suddenly be 5000% better than we were against Bama and USC? Also, Ryan Mallet's receivers had a pretty shitty day catching the ball. Mallet could've used more touch on several passes, but this is big kid's football. Dropping sure TD passes won't take you very far. After the catch, the Arkansas receivers were exceptional, but it wasn't even close to enough.

Because let's be real here for a minute. Ole Miss thoroughly kicked the shit out of Arkansas. If not for a lucky bounce on a 3rd and super, super long, Arkansas manages 10 points. If Cordera Eason doesn't fumble, or if Andru Stewart doesn't make an amazing interception, maybe Ole Miss extends the lead even further (not trying to take away from two outstanding Arkansas defensive plays, but they were both huge and unusual momentum swings). I'll say with confidence that Ole Miss didn't benefit from any bounces or bad officiating in this game. We just... won. The game was in doubt for all but the final 3 minutes, but it was so cleanly called, so well executed... It was an incredibly fun game to watch, even though it was nerve-wracking.

Sitting in the Grove post-game, talking about an outside shot at the Capital One Bowl is a lot more fun that getting drunk in the dusk and wondering if we'll ever be good at football again.

And finally... Arkansas fans.

I almost miss your nagging today. Maybe you knew we'd feel this way if we won, and you disappeared strictly to spite us. Maybe you're just not ready for this realization to sink in. But here it is:

Somewhere in the madness, you forgot that Houston Nutt is a good coach. He hired great assistants here, he (usually) motivates the shit out of his team, and he uses tried and true strategies to win in the SEC: run the ball, take care of it, and play nasty defense. He isn't perfect, but compared to some coaches, Nutt peaks at the right time. He drops games he should win, but he does it in September and October. Is that frustrating? Yeah, it can be, but so, too, can starting off 5-1 just to end up in the Indy Bowl. We've been there. Nutt helped claim a respectable spot in the SEC for Arkansas, and gave you the leverage to go and get a hot, slutty piece of coach when you got tired of him. At Ole Miss, we'd be thrilled if he elevated our program a bit, retired, then allowed us to hire someone who can win us an SEC title when he's gone. We're patient like that (usually).

To the better half of the Arkansas fan base: You have lots of reasons to be excited about your situation. Your team is young, your coach is recruiting the players he needs to make some runs in the SEC. I don't think he'll win an SEC title, but he could, if the chips fall his way. We feel like we're in the same position, just at a different time. Next year will likely be a down year, as the juniors and seniors will represent the dark years of Orgeron's recruiting. But we'll bounce back, and Arkansas and Ole Miss will be fighting for a spot in the West division race more often than not. We hope you'll come around and talk football, but man... let's drop the coach shit-talk.

To the shitty Arkansas fans: Please realize that this convincing victory has crushed most of the even slightly valid theories about Houston Nutt. Even if you feel like you still have something interesting or important to say on the matter, please be assured that you are mistaken. It's over for the year. We're doing fine, you're doing fine, but not quite as fine... because we beat you. We were the more experienced team this year, playing at home. Next year, it's your turn; we lose a lot of talent from a great 2006 recruiting class, and we play in Arkansas against a bunch of young guys who are coming around big time. You'll probably win next year, and it won't mean much with regards to the long-term futures of either program. We're tired of hearing the same stuff, we could easily turn this season around and be really good, and you have no ammo left in the chamber until next season. Give it a rest; even you guys will probably feel better.

That's about all I've got. Feel free to add your experiences and observations. It was a hell of a weekend. Hotty Toddy and goodnight.

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Damn good piece WW

and to reiterate my own position and feelings… GonzoHog, go fuck yourself – right in the ear with a red-hot helmet facemask (along with the pickled pig snout from the previous thread).

Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Suess

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 25, 2009 2:40 AM EDT reply actions  

so excited to beat a 3-3 team, typical of trash that was #4 a few weeks back

I had Nutt job for 10 yrs and he doesnt deliver. Stats prove it, record books prove it, and I am saddened by your excitement over beating a team that is so inconsistent and ranks in the bottom 20 in defense. To Qoute you "i dont think he(Petrino) will win an sec title, well wake up previoous #4 Nutt couldnt either. You played Blind Nun U last week and we played heart and soul against the best and barely lost. You guys(trash) are so unbelievable blinded. If Nutt is so great and u guys are so awesome, why would you be so pumped over beating a 3-3 team, when weeks ago u were #4 and had a heisman candidate? Big woop you beat a young, upstart team who is still trying to figureit out. The Rebels were on fire to day finally and they played great, but dont forget all of our stupid erors and dropped passes. Not taking anything from you it was al Rebel today and we got schooled, but wake up and smell the Nutt roasted coffee, he is a puss. I had him 10 yrs I know your frustration you so convientley try to hide.

by hogfan008 on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 AM EDT reply actions  

You, sir, and people like you, are the reason we were so glad to beat the Hogs.

Also, refer to the address to Hog fans contained in the article above. Thirdly, either learn how to write, get off your dad’s computer, or lay off the sauce.

by Whiskey Wednesday on Oct 25, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are foolish.

No one on this blog thinks we should have been ranked number four at all. Top twenty five? Sure. Not top ten. Not top fifteen. We just had a lot of hype from people who kind of knew neat things about us. And so far Houston Nutt has delivered fine for us, and according to the stats I’ve seen, he delivered well for Arkansas in his ten seasons there. You guys, apparently contrary to many Ole Miss fans, are not realistic about where you stand in the SEC. I’m sorry that you’ll continue to be disappointed year after year.

by unidentified black male on Oct 25, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that we are...

“so excited to beat a 3-3 team”, it’s that we are excited that we get to tell pieces of shit like you that have talked shit all week, that have ran Houston Nutt into the ground all week, to go fuck yourselves… because in the end, we’ve beat you 2 years in a row and Nutt has proved you’re all full of shit.

Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Suess

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're excited

because they know they beat a legit team. They played well and we played horribly. That’s why it was 30-17. We had 9 dropped passes and pointless penalties. We can’t get out of our own way. I’m not here to say “we would have won 7 out of 10 games” or what ever. We got beat. No game changing calls like last week.

by Razorback1477 on Oct 25, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats men. You too, BimBam.

In reality, Ole Miss was the better team yesterday, but if those same 2 teams played 10 times, would lose the majority of the games.
For the past 3 weeks, leading up to this game, the Hogs have played much better than what they showed early on this season, against good competition. It was time, evidently, for a letdown.
Ole Miss comes in much fresher than most SEC teams this time of year, and evidently, it showed.
Does this sound like sour grapes from Arky fan? Probably, if your an Ole Miss fan.
But the fact remains, Ole Miss is not THAT good, and Arkansas is not THAT bad.
Out coached? hardly. Was the team flat? yes.
If the Hogs would have played as well as they did the previous week, we’re not even having this discussion.
And get real, Whiskey. Saying the Hogs got lucky they scored more than 10 is probably one of the most brain-fucked analogies you’ve ever posted.
Jarius Wright dropped an obvious TD pass in the game, and several other passes for 1st downs were simply dropped by the WRs as well.
Your DBs can’t take credit for something they had no control of.

  1. passing defense with your schedual? Fucking amazing.
    Light me up, retards. You’ve been waiting for this.

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 25, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh...

…at this point I’d be disappointed in any Rebel fans who jumped on you, Gonzo. There’s nothing respectable about kicking a man when he knows he’s down. Arkansas lost, which at the end of the day is all any of us wanted to be satisfied anyway.

I will point out, however, that WW saying that the Hogs got a lucky bounce to score 17 was not an “analogy”, but a “fact” based on “observation”. He drew no comparisons.

by Rh0d3$t@r on Oct 25, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

The best thing about this post

is the egregious misspelling of the word “schedule.” Also, you know what’s real cool? Reporting a person to the administrators of a message board because you feel insulted and wronged by something this person (me) has said . That’s awesome. It must be because that’s what our friend Gonzo here does. He loves it. Fuck you, you whiny bitch.

I was born in Mississippi, and I don't take any stuff from you, and if I hit you on your head, boy, it's got to make it black and blue.

by HolmesReb on Oct 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude... I have a pretty good bearing on what happened yesterday...

And the future implications thereof. I said that I expect us to lose next year, although both of us still have reasons to be happy about our respective programs. I understand that Arkansas had played better up to this point in time. Teams progress and regress throughout the season. This wasn’t a fluke, this was a display of what we’re capable of. And as far as luck goes, dropping passes isn’t unlucky. Having a deflected ball bounce right into your hands for a touchdown is lucky. Thus, my comments. I’m not going to pile on you too hard, but if you’re going to come around, I’m going to tell you what’s up. Have a good remainder of your season.

by Whiskey Wednesday on Oct 25, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good win for the Rebels.

Let it go Hogs fans. You were out-played and beaten like the ugly, red headed stepchild you really are, plain and simple. We beat you in every phase of the game, and there is nothing more for you to say here. Be gone!
As for our Rebels:
1. We looked much better on offense. Snead completed short, easy passes all game long (even in the first half!) and we were able to run the ball very effectively (See point #2). Play calling was excellent.
2. Dex is a beast, which we already knew of course. He just hadn’t had the opportunity to show it yet this year for a full game. 29 touches and 250ish yards of total offense. Do you know what this means? DA LIL’ BASTID IS BACK!
3. Landsharks! Fins Up! and all that other good stuff for the defense. D-line blew up the run and pressured Brian Mollet (hee hee- see MBI post) all day long. Linebackers played exceptionally well for the most part. Trahan was all over the field, and Cornell played probably his best game. D-backs were just good enough to win, and that’s all that matters right now.

by poweforheisman.com on Oct 25, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Congrats to the Rebs

Best win of the season for them.
I do have a question, though: What’s with the Gatorade shower? All I hear about is how the Rebs and Hogs aren’t rivals, and how Houston Nutt doesn’t care about Arkansas. If that’s all true, a 4-2 team beating a 3-3 team doesn’t seem like the time and place for a Gatorade shower. But what do I know?

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd agree. I guess the team just knew it meant a lot to Nutt...

It’s hard to judge the team’s opinion on the “rivalry,” but surely they know that we’ve jumped Arkansas in the SEC West pecking order, and beating them is pretty important if we want to keep it that way. Also, they could probably tell that Nutt was about to giggity so hard, his brain might explode. I’m sure he was ecstatic, and they were happy for him.

by Whiskey Wednesday on Oct 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've jumped Arkansas in the pecking order? I think not

That’s a bit of an overstatement….

We’ve beaten you four out of the last 6 years….you can’t judge pecking order on two seasons…especially transition seasons. You have a good team this year and last year but pecking order isn’t changed in one and half seasons….You’re down there with Miss State for sure.

Wooo Pig

by generalrazor on Oct 25, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

With State, Really?

Do you know anything about SEC football? Have you been paying attention longer than 5 or 6 years? And where do you see Arkansas fitting in? With Bama, UGa, Fla?

by the_drake on Oct 25, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA!

The funny part about your statement is that you are saying that Nutt is 6-0.

Got Nutt?

by Role Player on Oct 26, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll go ahead and concur with dx and give my due respect

Obviously that was one of your best games of the season and one of our worst. Congrats – y’all looked really good. I’m glad McCluster won’t be around next year!

On the snarky side though, what was up with the Houston Nutt chant? I mean, I get the whole fourth grade aspect of it in taunting Hog fans, but it would seem a little out of place considering the unlikelihood of meeting y’alls potential this season – i.e., getting to Atlanta for the first time – and the fact you were favored in the game.*

On the positive side, had a great time in the Grove and even won a little in Tunica so all and all a pretty solid trip aside from the outcome of the game. See y’all during basketball season.

*For the record, this was first noted by my Ole Miss friends I was sitting with. Also, I’ll go ahead and agree that on the off-chance that we are favored and beat you next year, a Bobby Petrino chant would be wholly out of place.

by trip andrews on Oct 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at the Fanshot by Smeargle.

That’s the answer to your question about why Ole Miss fans were chanting Nutt’s name. It wasn’t a commentary on our season and where it may or may not be going. It was a response to Arkansas fans’ obsession with sharing their Nutt baggage with us.

by 18mph on Oct 25, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm...

Last I checked he didnt get ran out of Oxford after 10 years in which he had a winning record in 7 of them….So yes it would be out of place to chant his name. He is 0-2 against us. If he wins next year, he would have still lost 66% of the games he coached against us. But hey, a .333 batting average is awesome in baseball…………

by astaylo1 on Oct 25, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more thing:

Ole Miss didn’t “thoroughly kick the shit out Arkansas”. USC kicked the shit out of Arkansas, Texas kicked the shit out Arkansas, Alabama, to a lesser extent, kicked the shit out of Arkansas. A 13 point win against a Jekyl-and-Hyde team doesn’t quite qualify as “shit kicking”. Ole Miss won, plain and simple. But if Arkansas doesn’t drop those 8 or 9 passes (one goes for a TD, numerous others change punts into first downs), totally different ballgame. The Hogs did just as much to keep themselves from scoring as Ole Miss did to stop them from scoring. I find it a little odd that all the Rebs fans who went on and on about “Arkansas handing the game to Florida” don’t like to see it the same way when their team wins. Anyways, rant over. Congrats Rebs.

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

That's exactly the point i'm tyring to make.

The Hogs came to play against the #1 team in the land, but get no credit for it by these same folks kind of standards. (Ghost, in general) The Hogs come out flat against an Ole Miss team the very next week, in another road game to boot, get beat by 13, but they got there asses kicked? That’s like grabbing for air, only to open your hand to see nothing. Kind of like what a brain surgeon might see if he opened up the skull of HolmesReb.
If it’s not there, why the fuck even bring it up?

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 25, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

by box-scoring you can note the 500 yards of offense by the Rebels and less than 300 by the Hogs. To draw an analogy – I kind of felt like Yoda and Emperor Palpatine at the end of Revenge of the Sith. We got the jump on Arkansas with our crazy lightning powers, and expect it Bobby Petrino did not. The Rebels seemed to have the upper hand for the vast majority of the game, and the Hogs were digging their fingernails into the floating podium trying, allegorically, to avoid falling a couple of a hundred feet before limping off to the Dagoba system.

But, don’t worry, we all know that you get to blow up our Death Star in 2010.

Red Cup Rebellion - Changing the culture of Ole Miss Athletics
Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].

by Ivory Tower on Oct 25, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point...

Though I don’t really enjoy the Star Wars analogy. Arkansas had the upper hand during the vast majority of the Florida game, yet you’ll find no one (well, no one realistic) would tell you that we “kicked the shit out of Florida” had we won. Besides, as “Role Player”, a fine member the Cup community, told me during Hate Week, only the score matters; everything else has “no weight”. In addition, one could argue that since the Rebs put up 250+ more yards than the Hogs, a 13 point win is a little disappointing. I won’t try to make that argument, but considering the statistical advantage, is 13 points really that impressive? When Arkansas played TAMU, they won by 28, yet were actually outgained by 20 yards; the story’s never in the yardage, only the score.

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, considering the fact that we turned the ball over thrice, then yes.

But I think that was WW’s point. We beat Arkansas all over the field offensively and defensively, despite whatever the score may indicate.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 25, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade. Maybe part of the reason that no one has paid any attention to this game is that maybe Ole Miss didn’t dominate as much as you would like to believe. But, you did win, and that’s what everyone will remember in a week’s time. Anyways, good day sirs; I’ll shutup now.

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're welcome to stay and, you know, talk football and such.

If you don’t want to, I won’t make you. I just don’t want you to think you shouldn’t come around because “ZOMG ur a FARTkansaw fan!”

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 25, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'll still be around.

I’m just shutting up about this, for now. I’ve said my peace, and everyone has made some good points. Ole Miss won, there’s no arguing about that, and Arkansas never really threatened. I’ve got to admit, when I first came here a year ago, I thought you guys were huge assholes. Now that I see that you’re just snarky, you guys are alright, and I actually enjoy coming here.

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Buddy!

Glad you’ll still be around. I love how you say that “one” could make a claim, say that you won’t make said claim, but then still reference said claim in argumentative fashion, only to give an example that contradicts said claim.

One could say that I am an asshole, but I am most definitely not an asshole. An asshole would call you out even when you’re down, taking pleasure in extending Hate Week by a few days. I don’t hate Arkansas.

by Role Player on Oct 26, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not about to claim that Ole Miss should be disappointed in their win, because that’s something that the Ole Miss fan base can decide for themselves. I just like to make observations for discussion; we’re not likely to agree, but we can disagree in a (vaguely) civilized fashion. I really don’t see how I contradicted myself, though. Ole Miss had a huge statistical advantage, yet the score didn’t reflect this. Arkansas had a huge score advantage (4 TDs), yet was actually outgained. My only point was that the degree of “shit kicking” has various metrics. The way college football is going, at some point, this is going to happen: A team will win by 3+ TDs, while simultaneously getting outgained by 200+ yards (this likely wouldn’t happen in the SEC; more likely the ACC, where God doesn’t pay attention). Who kicked the shit out of who then?

by dxf04 on Oct 26, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, since you have endulged me...

I was referencing this slick piece of work:

I love how you say that "one" could make a claim,

In addition, one could argue that since the Rebs put up 250+ more yards than the Hogs, a 13 point win is a little disappointing.

say that you won’t make said claim,

I won’t try to make that argument,

but then still reference said claim in argumentative fashion,

but considering the statistical advantage, is 13 points really that impressive?

only to give an example that contradicts said claim.

When Arkansas played TAMU, they won by 28, yet were actually outgained by 20 yards; the story’s never in the yardage, only the score.

by Role Player on Oct 26, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know what I said...

I know this is land of double-speak and veiled criticism, but when I asked “is 13 points really that impressive?”, I wasn’t trying to claim that it wasn’t, I was just asking. Ghost said that considering the 3 takeaways, that it probably was. That’s fine with me. I still don’t see how the TAMU example contadicts the point I was trying to make. Can you enlighten me? All you’ve done is repeat your post, interspersed with quotes from my post, which anyone with a working wrist can simply scroll up to read.

by dxf04 on Oct 26, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

You really just insulted my intelligence?

If you’re going to comment on the apparent emptiness of someone’s skull, at least use proper grammar and punctuation doing it. Just a couple of corrections:
1) “#1 team in the land, but get no credit…” There’s no need for a comma as the part of the sentence after the conjunction is not a complete sentence.
2) The word “folks” in the first sentence is referring to the folks possessing standards and should therefore have an apostrophe making it " folks’ ."
3) Even the sentence in which the neurosurgeon finds my skull empty is wrong. It’s a fragment and should be part of the previous sentence.

The fact that I was able to find that many errors in a single paragraph that you wrote makes me want to go to the Arkansas Department of Education and slap somebody. Way to go, you.

I was born in Mississippi, and I don't take any stuff from you, and if I hit you on your head, boy, it's got to make it black and blue.

by HolmesReb on Oct 25, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sound so douchey

That might be the gayest thing I’ve read all night. Get a life

Wooo Pig

by generalrazor on Oct 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't come around here much, do you?

1. We cuppers like to use the English language in the proper way, and we will call people out that don’t. If you don’t like that, then you don’t have to post.

2. “The gayest thing I’ve read all night” is not an appropriate response. The Cup is a friendly community that welcomes people of all kinds, regardless of sex, race, religion, sexual orientation or whatever. As such we, the frequent posters, try to avoid such possibly offensive language.

3. Go fuck yourself

by the_drake on Oct 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's also in the little disclaimer you agreed to when you join.

The whole “proofread your posts” thing, I mean. To paraphrase, “if you talk smack while misspelling and utilizing poor grammar, we will mock you.”

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzo

I find it ironic your use of excuses now.. now that you’ve lost, it’s because Arkansas was flat against Ole Miss after losing to Florida.

I mean, let’s be honest here.. all week you’ve been talking shit about how Arkansas was going to beat Ole Miss overwhelmingly, how Houston Nutt is shit, how Ole Miss football is shit, etc. instead of saying “It’s possible we lose because we’ll be flat after such a close loss to Florida” or in other words, instead of being a man.

There is a difference in talking smack and talking shit. When you leave big piles of shit from your talking, it doesn’t feel too good to fall back in your own pile. We’re Ole Miss. We know this. That’s why most of us with common sense talk smack, not shit. You on the other hand are so blinded by your hatred for all things Houston Dale Nutt, you couldn’t see how big the pile of shit you left was. Now you’re drowning in it.

I for one am a Rebel fan who doesn’t care one way or the other about Arkansas. I’ve never even considered the game a rivalry. Hell, it only became one since last year. But it’s fans like you that make usually-non-haters like me, loathe you and your school.

Perhaps I was a bit harsh in telling you to go fuck yourself.

Just kidding… go do just that. And thanks for making this a rivalry now in my mind.

Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Suess

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 25, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

BimBam,

If you believe it’s a rivalry because of our fans, that’s your butt fucking problem.
As far as exscuses go, if the Rebel WRs had dropped 9 passes yesterday, there’s no way they win. And yes, I would be more inclined to say we were fortunate to win had it happened that way.
At least I wouldn’t be on this blog clammoring about how we kicked the shit out of you. That’s called common sense, dumbass.
You want honesty? Check a few of the most recent posts i’ve made this past week.
In one of those post, I commented that I had hoped the Hogs wouldn’t come out flat after a hard fought loss to Florida. To be specific, the WRs did exactly that. You don’t drop 9 fucking passes when you’ve got a good passing game going, and you damn sure don’t give credit to the other fucking team for kicking your ass either.

Perhaps I was a bit harsh insinuating that your manhood might be in question.

Just kidding… bitch. And your welcome.

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you always seem to miss the point?

Wide receivers dropping passes that hit them in the hands isn’t luck, bad or good. It’s a failure of execution. It’s the same as a lineman blowing an assignment or a running back hitting the wrong hole or a quarterback overthrowing someone—that’s just bad football, not luck. Someone falling back on 3rd and a mile, tossing a pray, and having the ball get tipped by the DBs only to fall into another receiver’s hands as he strolls into the end zone is luck. But go right ahead, make all the excuses you want.

by the_drake on Oct 25, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's another example:

Ghost saying the Gators almost gave the game away with 4 fumbles, and that’s the only reason the game was close.
Yeah, your right, it is lack of execution isn’t it? I guess that means the Hogs dropping 9 passes means they gave the game away.
Thanks for the support. Great comment.

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 26, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playcalling

WW hit it on the head when he talked about the playcalling. That is what made me feel good about this game and the rest of this season. Its what has been lacking for us, and while its not the only reason, I think its a large part of our slow start to the season. I think my favorite playcall was the fake draw screen. Absolutely brilliant. It was a great play the first time it was called when Cordera got 20 or so yards on it (before he coughed the ball up), and it was great when Dex ran 60 yards for a TD. Bravo to Kent Austin, and to the offense, for being what we knew they could be.

by Mitch Planey on Oct 25, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

And that play...

Was set up by an actual draw to Dexter in the first quarter (series?). That is an example of how the playcalling played off of itself. That is what a good Offense does.

by astaylo1 on Oct 25, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very typical of Ole Miss fans to hype on misspelling

Ole Miss fans are so awful and trash. Someone above said they didnt want to be #4 or in the top 10 ot top 25. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Best laugh I have had in awhile. u guys are so blow by the wind fans it makes my head spin. When was the last time you were ranked over…what 35 yrs ago or more. As far as stats go the big one is no SEC TITLE. Wake up u simply played Pussy U last week and we played areal team and lost a hard fought game. ole Miss was a better team today hands down. Hey spell checkers notice how I didnt capitalize Ole in the previous sentence another cheap victory for you.

by hogfan008 on Oct 25, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Please explain this sentence...

“u guys are so blow by the wind fans it makes my head spin. When was the last time you were ranked over…what 35 yrs ago or more.”

Ranked over what?

by Juco All-American on Oct 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fuck?
As far as stats go the big one is no SEC TITLE.

Ole Miss actually has 6 SEC titles. Arkansas, on the other hand, has ZERO.

Seriously, you’re either 12, or very poorly educated. Come back when you can convey a message without embarrassing yourself and the fan base you are a part of.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 25, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think you should

judge the fan base off one person. That would indicate stupidity. It’s like judging all Germans as retarded because you met one German with down syndrome.

Also, The fuck?
He may be retarded but you dont sound like a Rhodes scholar there either…we have zero SEC championships…true. But as you know (I hope) we joined the league relatively recently. We won 13 in the SWC. Anyways….anybody can act as smart and be as arrogant as you do online but it’s not too hard to see through.

Wooo Pig

by generalrazor on Oct 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The SWC?

And like Drake said, he is very smart and arrogant.

by Role Player on Oct 26, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't tell if you're asking what those letters

stand for or just saying that the SWC was less than the SEC.

If it’s the former…SWC=Southwest Conference….consisting of teams in Texas and then Arkansas.

If it’s teh latter….then I agree with you. I was just pointing out that Arkansas hasn’t been in the conference as long as Mississippi has, making it harder to compare SEC championships. But as many of you know I’m sure….Arkansas HAS actually been to the championship game (3 times) while Mississippi has not YET reached the SEC championship game.

Wooo Pig

by generalrazor on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Jay Cutler

I guess if you must take away our Houston Nutt trips, that leaves us one more than Mississippi. Ain’t bad for the red-headed stepchild of the SEC, with barren recruiting grounds….as one of your admins has put it.

Joking aside…I don’t think I’ve bashed Nutt any….I might have said one or two things…but I think you’re confusing me for some other Hog fans. Plus…one of those times….there were co-head coaches on the team…names: Jones and McFadden.

One more thing….He did it for Arkansas NOT Mississippi. So that argument really is kinda stupid. Bragging about the success of your team’s coach at another school, which happens to be the school that hte person you are arguing with is a fan of, doesn’t hold much weight.

Wooo Pig

by generalrazor on Oct 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ain’t bad for the red-headed stepchild of the SEC, with barren recruiting grounds….as one of your admins has put it.

You’re damn right it ain’t. You all expect Arkansas to be so damn great that you fail to give credit when and where it’s due.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 27, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again

Jay Cutler is always right. Disregarding bottom part of my last statement.

Wooo Pig

by generalrazor on Oct 27, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bottom part of your statement was directed at you

and other Arkansas fans. While you have accurately pointed out that you didn’t come here so much to bash Nutt, the folks that do will bash the guy right before dangling the whole “Ole PISS ain’t been to Atlanta” bit in front of our faces.

Pig fans: you can’t make fun of us for not having done something right before denouncing a guy who has, twice.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 28, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ole Miss fans are so awful and trash.

Says the member of a fanbase that wears plastic pigs on their heads.

Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.

by JimHalpert on Oct 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Low Blow, Sir.

How dare you insult the “cheesehead” of the south? I can only imagine that you’re secretly upset that Ole Miss doesn’t have a mascot that can be easily converted to hat form.

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess...

there might be some advantage in having a mascot that you can also cook and eat for supper. We Rebels never “dual purpose” our mascots, or sisters, either!

by Drebel on Oct 25, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until...

We come out with shark fins to be worn on the head instead of the hand. Someone get on that, now.

by Mitch Planey on Oct 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ranked over what???? and SEC titles

ok so you are not familiar with …. as conveying time lapse(you must have an Ole Miss education) It simply means you havent been ranked in the polls in years(why do you make me point out this hurtful fact) So for the SEC titles it was in reference to the comment above about Petrino not being able to bring an SEC title to AR. So maybe you should read above and understand things before you open your rebel trash mouth and start commenting. By the way you won 6 titles when? oh back in the early of ealriest days of SEC ball. Typical trash

by hogfan008 on Oct 25, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

A Grammar Lesson

Yes, Ole Miss fans are in fact familiar with the punctuation you so elegantly named “the …” (we tend to call it an ellipse, pardon our clearly lesser education). And while it can be used to signify a lapse or a pause (more typically in writing dialogue), that is not its primary function. It might be helpful, however, if you uses other types of puncutation, such as the , or the . (more typically called by we ignorant OIe Miss fans the comma and the period). But I applaud your stream of concious technique, its clear that you are Arkansas’s equivalent of Virginia Woolfe or James Joyce (go ahead and look up who they are now so you can understand what I’m talking about). While you are at it, please consider buying Strunk and White’s Elements of Style, it has some helpful passages concerning clarity in writing, but also on various common usage errors and the proper use of punctuation.

by Mitch Planey on Oct 25, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's lay off the grammar lessons.

It serves no point. Hogfan008 doesn’t care, and it’s hardly the worst misuse of grammar that you’ve ever seen. Besides, you have a couple of grammar errors yourself (notably, some run-on sentences). And, they’re probably typos. No harm, no foul, but they’re still there, in a post where you’re chastising someone else for their lack of grammar skills. Let’s talk football, maybe?

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

And where exactly is the fun in that?

Besides, run-on sentences are really a myth your middle school teachers tell you. With the proper use of puncuation and stylistic clarity, they really don’t matter. And you’re right, I probably did have grammar errors, but Arkansas fans don’t seem to understand that we beat them in football this weekend (and quite soundly to boot), so I prefer to allow them to experience that same feeling of infuriation that we experience when we try to sensibly talk football. Besides, I’m an English major, its what I do (and by that I mean be a pretentious hypocritical douche).

by Mitch Planey on Oct 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Calling Ole Miss fans trash, because we beat you?

Wipe the tears off your keyboard, you fucking lame-ass little bitch.

by Whiskey Wednesday on Oct 26, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

that’s what I didn’t understand.

Off the top of my head, we were ranked in 2002, 2003, 2008, and 2009.

by Juco All-American on Oct 26, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Run-on sentences are as much a myth as imaginary numbers...

You decide.
Besides, I’m an engineer. I don’t believe in “stylistic clarity”. It’s a crutch for those who can’t work within the machinery of the English language. Who would want to read nice, descriptive sentences with subtle clues into the state of mind of the speaker, while simultaneously foreshadowing a yet-unseen shocking event, when 9 words and a conjunction will suffice? Damn, now I wish I had majored in American lit.
And, damn, where did the football go?

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Football's still here.

But the thing about the Cup is we tend to let our conversations meander. Yes, this is an Ole Miss Rebels site, but our comments threads have included discussions on films, music, food, drink, history, and many other topics.

I know you weren’t being critical, but other folks have. For disclosure’s sake, I felt I needed to say that.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My own disclosure.

My comment asking where the football went was partially directed at myself. I told Mitch Planey to talk about football, then wrote an entire post about the stylistic clarity and American lit. Anyhow, on with the show, boys.

by dxf04 on Oct 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see all these hog fans on here

doing the backhanded congrats, " yall played great, and we played the horrible." Do any of you take under consideration that you played horrible because Ole Miss MADE you play horrible. I know there were dropped passes but there was much more than that to the story. You got beat and thats it, just like we did with SC and Bama.

by SouthernRebel on Oct 25, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, Everyone's a Tough Guy on the Internet...

Sat right next to the Arkansas section at the game, and I have to say, for a rivalry game and all, found everyone to be pretty damn nice. Ran into a few Hogs at The Grove and in The Square, too, and aside from one middle-aged sad sack looking for a problem, found the fanbase to be a friendly, easy-going bunch. Strange that the civility goes out the window once they’re posting on a message board.

Disappointing more than anything else, I guess.

by HandsomeSam on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe they weren't crazy message board posters.

While it’s what we’ve been primarily exposed to over here at the Cup, I would venture to say that Arkansas fans aren’t all crazy internet assholes. There are normal ones out there.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 26, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's just end this little debate about how close the game was

First Downs 13-31
Rush Yards 45-221
Pass Yards 254-332
Total yards 299-553
TOP 22:47-37:13
3rd dn conv 4 of 13-9 of 15

that’s a statisical massacre. This game could’ve been much uglier. Hog fans love to talk about the dropped TD pass but then ignore the complete blind luck tipped TD pass. Oh, and to all the "Hooten Dale Nutt, QB Killer crowd; how does it feel to know that our QB had his highest offensive output of his career against your hogs. Poetic, really.

by RedStickRebel on Oct 26, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Statistical massacre, yes...

But the score doesn’t reflect this. You have a point about the tipped TD pass. But at the same time, Ole Miss loves to talk about how they dominated, yet doesn’t want to talk about everything that Arkansas did to beat themselves. Ole Miss had nothing to do with a vast majority of the dropped passes, nor did they have anything to do with the delay-of-game penalty that took 3 points off the board. The game could have been much uglier, but it wasn’t. If the tables were turned, I would have been very happy to have the win, but I would definitely be concerned about why the score doesn’t reflect that statistical superiority against a team that quite obviously shot itself in the foot over and over, and I definitely wouldn’t be talking about how “we kicked the shit out of Ole Miss”.

by dxf04 on Oct 26, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get your point somewhat.

The fumble by Eason on that big gain worries me. The picks don’t so much because neither were really Jevan’s fault. However, you’ve gotta protect the football if you wanna win the close ones. This one wasn’t close but, if it were, I would have expected our 3 turnovers to do us in.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 26, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you guys believe your good now,

just because you beat a 3-3 football team. That could mean you really believe deep down inside we were a pretty damn good team, otherwise, you sucseeded in beating up on just another creampuff
You can’t have it both ways.

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 26, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

GonzoHog

isn’t really a Hog fan. He’s just trying to embarass us.

Wooo Pig

by generalrazor on Oct 26, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

Gonzo, you must really feel like shit when your own fans turn on you. You truly are pathetic.

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