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Wednesday Question - 10/14/09

Generally, we are the "authors" of "content" around here - "here" being a blog and not a message board. Recognize, we do, that you've come here not to contribute, but to consume. Nevertheless, there is the sporadic occasion where, either for our benefit or for to exercise the thinkifiers of the masses, we ask you a question. Today's question is ...

This is totally unrelated, but are you using that soapbox?  I desperately want to get on it.

Every now and again some sports story will bubble up from the depths, penetrating the veneer of my coverage of things related to Ole Miss.  When it happens, Ghost usually reprimands me.  I have offended often enough that I am a lowly "opinionated scribe," rather than a glorious "head honco."  But something has bubbled up that really "grinds my gears," so to speak.

Rush Limbaugh wants to be a minority ... owner of the St. Louis Rams.  See how I made a joke about Rush Limbaugh and the possibility that he harbors just a smidge of latent racism?  That's funny.  And it will still be funny if he becomes an NFL owner.  It will, furthermore, still be acceptable because Rush Limbaugh makes a great deal of money saying things he knows are outrageous, and saying outrageous things comes with its benefits and detriments.  One of the benefits is that you can make a lot of money.  One of the detriments is that everyone gets to parse whatever you say for underlying nefarious motivations.

What's not funny is the way that NFL owners are trying to block Limbaugh's bid.  

Star-divide

 

Indianapolis Colts owner, Jim Irsay:

"I've met Rush only once and he seemed like a nice guy. But when you see the comments that are out there, I would not be comfortable. I myself couldn't be in favor of voting for him.... We've got to watch our words in this world and our thoughts because they can do damage."

This is the first time I have ever heard of Jim Irsay.  I am inclined to like him because he hired a Manning and Tony Dungy.  In this situation, though, he and those who, like him, feel some moral duty to protect the NFL from controversial people are being blind, self-righteous, hyper-sensitive parts of the problem.

A brief interlude from sports commentary for social commentary:  from my perspective, I see a real-life, honest-to-goodness race problem in this country.  There is a wealth gap, an education gap, and a living gap - we literally move away from each other - about which we can disagree on their causes, but not on their existence.  But punishing a high-profile guy by denying him a high-profile business opportunity because he said some stuff is not helpful.  Now, don't get down there in the comments and talk about the First Amendment.  The NFL is a private business, and they can let in or out who they want or don't want free of government intrusion.  But treating Limbaugh like a leper because his thoughts might exhibit latent prejudices is hypocritical and counter-productive.  If everyone "trying" to solve our race problems would just recognize their own prejudices for a second, we might actually make some headway.

Back to sports:  The NFL is chock-full of nefarious characters.  Ray Lewis, allegedly, murdered a man.  Michael Vick just got out of prison.  Jeremy Shockey has been deposited in New Orleans, where I doubt it will be very long before he does something scorn-worthy.  Not to mention Nick Saban and Bobby Petrino.  Are the same owners who happily employ these people really trying to uphold the standards of the NFL?  Or are they stoking the fires of their moral uprightness and missing the splinter on account of the log?

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You suck

Jim Irsay is a household name among NFL fans.

by Juco All-American on Oct 14, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

The Colts suck!

And there aren’t many NFL fans.

by Role Player on Oct 14, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm...

I keep up with it pretty well and know very few owners…. Him not being one.

by astaylo1 on Oct 14, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Limbaugh is no more a racist than...

…you are.

Nor am I.

Nor [insert your choice non-racist here].

This entire “controversy” is ginned up…that’s all. Rush can say something patently true about the way sports media portrayed Donovan McNabb, and he’s branded a racist. Yet players themselves utter racist gems and are somehow given a pass?

As my uncle used to say, “That don’t cut no ice with me.”

John Edwards was right when he said we live in two Americas. The problem is, it’s not a rich America the rest of us poor bastards will never reach and the poor America that we silly, insignificant middle-to-lower classers live in. It’s the Elitists who can say {and think} whatever the hell they like and the rest of us common sense folks who can’t carry on a simple conversation without first filtering every damned word so we don’t step on somebody’s poor, little toes.

I, for one never bought into that. I had a very successful broadcasting career (for North Mississippi…that is. I ain’t no Chris Berman) and never said anything that was based on anything but truth and good faith. Nobody (that I know of…see, I never got race-baiting mail or threats) ever accused me of racism because I like to believe that the audience and I had an understanding…we are adults and will act that way.

These owners trying to make issue of a witty, well-rounded, wealthy guy’s attempt to join the NFL Owners’ Club because he has opinions they might not agree with is just stupid.

In my never-to-be-humble opinion.

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 14, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

The main reason for the race problem...

are race hustlers like The “Reverends” Jackson and Sharpton. Seems they can insert racism into anything…for a profit of course.They don’t want racial harmony, they would have to take a damn paycut.

by rightwingconspirator on Oct 14, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen...

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 14, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

When it comes down to the bottom line

it’s the players that matter and from what I’ve read, if Limbaugh ends up owning the St. Louis Rams, it will be the whitest team in the NFL because black players are saying they wouldn’t play for him/there.

I’d be more interested in this if it were a case of the league’s first openly gay team owner. I can just hear the excuses now.. “We won’t play for him because we’d be scared to shower in the locker room!” Now that there is worthy of a mini-series.

Be who you are and say what you want because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Suess

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 14, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Sadly

I think your characterization is probably closer to fact than fiction.

But again, I think it comes down to money. If a gay billionaire wants to buy a team and can put up the necessary capital by himself or as the majority investor — well then, that’s a horse of a different color, financially-speaking.

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Oct 14, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes $ense to block Limbaugh

If Limbaugh were the outright buyer of the Rams and wanted to pay double the team’s worth — like $1.5 billion — then that would be another story. The owners would have some serious thinking to do about the cost/benefit of allowing Limbaugh to own the team for that kind of scratch vs. the bad pub that will invariably result every time that guy says something provocative. Remember Marge Schott?

But he his a relatively minor player in this deal. And he is certainly not quitting his day job anytime soon. The negative press he will bring to the NFL does not square with the financial benefit of his stake in the ownership. Period.

In short: Limbaugh brings no upside to the NFL, either from a PR or a financial standpoint. He quite likely will have a lot of downside (about two-thirds of the country hates him), in fact.

Just my $.02.

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Oct 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

20 million loyal listeners can't be wrong...

…and he has more than that.

If so many people HATE him so much, why’s he so damned successful?

I’d like a teaspoon of that success.

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 15, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't use that argument...

“There are 300 million people in the United States. If a lot of those people really hate him, how come (sic) he has so many listeners?”

by Juco All-American on Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well now...

…who’s going to clean up this breakfast I just heaved on my keyboard?

Thanks!

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 15, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the film Private Parts

Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a
  day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for – are you ready for
  this? – an hour and twenty minutes.

Pig Vomit: How could this be?

Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he’ll say
  next."

Pig Vomit: All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?

Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a
  half hours a day.

Pig Vomit: But… if they hate him, why do they listen?

Researcher: Most common answer: "I want to see what he’ll say next."

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 15, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly...

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 15, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

So your point is?

What? That the NFL — already the richest, most popular, most successful professional sports league in the U.S. — needs Rush Limbaugh? You think those 20 million listeners don’t already like football? Football?

I think if the purpose of allowing a provocative personality to have stake in the NFL is to bring revenue, then BimBam’s idea (an openly gay owner) makes a lot more sense. There’s a demographic the NFL could reach out to and stand to gain from, financially.

The NFL already has the Limbaugh crowd — without the inconvenience of Limbaugh himself.

Don't try and lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock 'n roll.

by RobRob9 on Oct 15, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I understand the economic argument

and defend their right to make it. They may very well believe that Rush would be hurt the Rams financially, but that’s not the argument they made. The rhetoric of the owners and the player’s association has not been blatantly economic (as in, “this is our club, and if we don’t like him, we can keep him out for whatever reason we like”), rather they (successfully, I might add) acted as if they were members of some glorious quest; as if folks should be offended that Limbaugh wanted to make an investment. I think appealing to passions in that way is unfair and counter-productive.

Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].

by Ivory Tower on Oct 15, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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