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State of the Season: A Picture in Time

Ed:  This is not the Whiskey Wednesday post-game. Nor is it a poor substitute for Whiskey's dripping satire, biting wit, and unmerciful cynicism.  It is, rather, a snap-shot of our situation - a few observations many have already thought in their own homes or voiced in their scotch klotches.  

We can handle an inordinate number of three-and-outs.  It's the turnovers that'll kill you.  In Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Sundance confides in Butch that he can't jump into a river at the bottom of the canyon because he [Sundance] can't swim.  Butch starts laughing and says, "It's the fall that's gonna kill you."  The turnovers have not exactly gone unnoticed by the media and blogosphere, but they seem to have taken a back-seat in the discussion to the glaring and general ineptitude of the offense.  The pass completion percentages.  The total yards.  But, when talking about reasons that the Rebels have yet to beat a team with a pulse, one cannot ignore this statistic - Jevan Snead's four interceptions against Alabama only tied the previous high of Snead's young career.  And with a marvelous defense - among the best in the country - turnovers, and not punts, are what will put the Rebels out of the game.

Star-divide

To some degree, time will reset expectations.  If this sounds like loser language, then, well, such is an appropriate posture today.  Ole Miss did lose, after all, and in doing so, hopes of a division title that were perfectly realistic even after the loss to South Carolina are extremely remote today.  Time itself, though, will temper the frustrations of those whose attitude was "Atlanta or bust."  If, somehow, this season ends at 9-3 with three wins between Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, and State, few will be openly lamenting the "disappointing season."  And those who do will be admonished to get over it.

Tyrone Nix was abused by South Carolina fans for his late-season defensive meltdowns.  Without reference to any objective reason why the Rebel defense might soil the bed at any point this season, this is just one example of a line of criticism offered by our conference brethren that we have either ignored or discounted.  Practically anyone from the Natural State might be able to offer other examples.  Cope however you and your therapist think is best.  For me and my house, we will vivdly imagine worst-case scenarios and rejoice when they don't come true.

Oh, did they say 62,657?  The record crowd to see a sporting event in Mississippi has not been touted the way one might have thought.  Is that number even the one they announced?  This is a nit-picky criticism, but Ole Miss sports marketing continues to make some strange choices.  The "blue out" was executed with exactly the success The Cup predicted.  The record crowd - or even the stellar defensive effort - went unmentioned in the official release at Ole Miss Sports.  And here's the really nit-picky part - did you notice that the record number was announced at an odd moment during the game?  We were on offense.  Predictably, when the number was announced many Rebel fans screamed their heads off.  Did the scoreboard people never think that announcing the number during, oh, I don't know, a crucial third and long for the Tide might have been a good idea?  

Here's to the Lollipop Guild.  The cornerbacks for Ole Miss are good.  Not serviceable.  Not better than their height.  Good.

At least we know what we've got.  Plenty of FBS teams in 2009 have shown the predictability and mental stability of a Batman villain.  Have you seen the Georgia Bulldogs?  I'm not sure anyone has seen all the faces of Athens Asylum.  We might not like what we've got (if any of you do, seek help immediately before you do any more harm to yourself or your neighbors), but at least we know what we've got.

Under certain conditions, every remaining game still seems winnable.  Like that qualifying statement?  This is the sort of intentionally but subtly misleading verbiage that I can offer as RCR's chief legal counsel.  If Jevan ends the great regression of 2009, if Kent Austin finds more meaningful ways to put the ball in Dexter McCluster's hands, if the turnovers magically end, or if [insert dream season adjustment here] there is no "almost certain loss" left on the schedule.  Auburn and Arkansas have proved that they know how to lose games just as futilely as we do.  LSU remains a team living by its defense, but almost dying by its tragically flawed offense (golly, that sounds familiar).  State is what it is.  And that alien who threw four touchdowns in relief of Jonathan Crompton against Georgia will, hopefully, be called back to his home planet before November.

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There is light at the end of this tunnel

That Redzone defense you folks have looked very impressive Saturday.

I think Enrique Davis is going to be somebody you’ll rely on soon as well. He had some good runs.

Jevan Snead will improve, as he has in the past. UAB will be a good wound-licking game for him.

Good luck the rest of the season.

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Oct 11, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

All I could say at the end of this one was...

“…thank God for our D!”

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 12, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Outside of UAB and Northern Arizona, I can’t guarantee a single win for this season. Our offense is fucking pathetic. That Bama game looked like an Orgeron/Schaeffer ordeal. Absolutely terrible.

Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.

by JimHalpert on Oct 12, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Amen...

I said the exact same thing I-don’t-even-remember-how-many times last night.

I’m also looking into arranging a group to get Jevan looked at by a shrink or two, because… well, he’s afraid of something.

Anybody else have suggestions?

by UMBAI on Oct 12, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hearsay, scuttle-butt, and downright rumor

My niece (the one who lives in Oxford) says some drunk allegedly slugged Jevan in the mouth this week at a bar? Anybody know if that actually happened and when “the rest of the story” is on this potential tall tale?

My brother (who knows a person with connections to the team) said Jevan’s having “girlfriend problems.” After I wiped the laghter-drool off my shirt and chin, I suggested that an SEC caliber QB might ought not get so strung out over a girl…especially when his potential draft position is in serious tailspin.

Apparently Coach Nutt has had quite enough of the “Monday Morning Coaches” as he referred to them at the mic this weekend. That’s why you don’t see me offeriing my unqualified or solicited opinions as to how we right this ship. But why didn’t we see a fresh face at least for a sewries to settle the young casanova down? It certainly couldn’t have been any worse…or could it?

Just wondering? Lob away. I’d like to know what others think…

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 12, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently Coach Nutt has had quite enough of the "Monday Morning Coaches" as he referred to them at the mic this weekend. That’s why you don’t see me offeriing my unqualified or solicited opinions as to how we right this ship.

Um, he makes almost $3 million a year. He can fucking deal with it.

Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.

by JimHalpert on Oct 12, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend...

…heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Jevan pass out at 31 Flavors last night. (Dude, sorry but it was right there…)

Sister is a librarian at Ole Miss, and if there’s one thing I know it’s that librarians have the best campus gossip. The story SHE’S heard is that a) his grandfather died right before the school year started and it hit him REAL hard and b) his high school sweetheart and he broke up a month and a half ago, and since then he’s at the bars constantly with a girl on each arm being a total man-whore.

All that being said…that is NO fucking excuse. Look at how many women McNair (RIP) likely juggled in his NFL career (I’m talking before the bat shit crazy murderess). Look at how Favre played RIGHT AFTER HIS DAD DIED. Did Jevan only play well last year because he knew he had the protection of the most hyped and well-publicized OLT in the last decade? It’s a big possibility. That boy needs to get his head on straight and he needs to do it before THIS Saturday. Or I’ll be right up there with BimBamFlimFlam asking for his head.

My personal theory? He should have kept the buzz-cut. Instead, he grew Bama Bangs over the summer…he’s apparently the opposite of Samson.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No apology needed...

…as I knew what I was setting up. It was a funny jab, and I am a big fan of good humor. I spent nearly as much time in my career as a straight guy as I did being the one delivering the punch lines.

I got a good laugh. [** though I was a little disappointed it took 24 hours for someone to take the bait…;^P]

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 13, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I should qualify what I said...

…in that I wasn’t criticizing anybody for making their own ideas known about what should or should not have been done from the coach’s box during the game. Nope. Not that at all.

Just wanted to make that clear.

You certainly are right. He CAN deal with it. I bet he’s thinking, “Well, the honeymoon’s over. I guess these folks wanted the success thing to continue after last year. How come that didn’t buy me any time?”

Oh, I’ll wait before I criticize the guy. I am the LEAST qualified to Monday Morning Quarterback ANY team. What I keep asking myself is, "How can a guy so ON from October ‘08 through January, ’09 be so frickin’ OFF this season? Yes, we have won more than we’ve lost…so far…but my Lord! What has yet to come is at least as daunting as the schedule we had last year and we came out alright then.

I guess what I’m stressing over is that we have seen how GOOD & BAD our QB can be (reference to last season) and we were all hoping he’d be past that “bad” part forever.

I can’t say how I’d act in his skin. I don’t know what’s going on inside his head. I just hope he recovers quickly, because the NCAA and the SEC are not stopping the Ferris Wheel so he can get off and settle his stomach. The season goes on, regardless.

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by tlcreb17 on Oct 12, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Redundant, I know

But I’ll say it again. Bench Snead for the UAB game. Let Stanley have the first half and Tapp the second half. Whoever does best, give him the whole next game, Arkansas. If Snead plays the Arkansas game, it’s another loss. Shit, we rotate every other position so might as well start doing it at QB. Stanley and Tapp can’t do any worse, that’s for damn sure. Tapp is a Senior, Stanley is a Freshman. I’d go with Tapp first and give him the opportunity in his last season to enjoy the game.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 12, 2009 3:41 AM EDT reply actions  

You sir...

are crazy and say a lot of ridiculous crap on this blog, but the only thing I disagree with in the above statement is starting Tapp over Stanley. I prefer to prepare for the future. So let Tapp do the cleaning up and (hopefully) the victory formation, and put the pressure on Stanley at 0-0 for experience.

by Role Player on Oct 12, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aside from the rest..

I am not crazy.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 12, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Black out unis....

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL YAKNAWIMEAN?

by smeargle on Oct 12, 2009 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What's crazy about that?

*

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact you have to ask

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL YAKNAWIMEAN?

by smeargle on Oct 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's your opinion

I see nothing crazy about it at all and there’s many others who like the idea. Thanks for being an ass.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Oct 12, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm an ass for having a different opinion

and thinking that your idea of black ole miss unis is crazy? Ok

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL YAKNAWIMEAN?

by smeargle on Oct 12, 2009 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Snead is a pussy until further notice

Snead looked terrified from the first snap. I know our OL isn’t what it was last year, but Snead never gave them a chance Saturday. I went into the season seeing Snead as the biggest advantage we had in the SEC, and he’s turned out to be the biggest liability.

Our defense is playing like a National Championship squad. Any team in the country would kill for our defense. They held Bama to FGs inside the 15 yd line 5 times, and 3-4 of those drives started inside the 30 (the blocked punt, the “interception” (that was a terrible call by the refs btw, not that it mattered) and the near pick six." there may have been another, but I don’t care enough to check.

That’s really the most frustrating thing in it all, and I fear the Defense will eventually just say, “fuck it.” What’s the point of busting your ass with your back against the wall all day just to have your Offense go out and throw 3 balls in the dirt, then punt?

As long as the defense doesn’t quit, they will give us a chance to let the offense lose each of our remaining games. Let’s just hope that Snead and Co’s balls drop really quick or the 7 wins it’s gonna take to get us Bowl Eligible (remember only 1 D-II win counts) won’t happen.

by RedStickRebel on Oct 12, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I almost agree with that, but it isn't all Snead

He is definitely playing with zero confidence and when he did make a turnaround and started moving the ball down the field, he lost it again with another interception. He has a great arm and when his head is in the game he can throw some magnificent passes, but he needs to get his confidence back so that he can get his team behind him again and start winning games.

Where I disagree is that it isn’t only Snead that needs some help because the offensive line isn’t doing their job either. My grandmother could get to Snead with all the holes they are allowing. The announcers even took advantage of a timeout to run a replay of the O-line letting a player come right through the middle untouched and hit Snead within two seconds of the snap, not allowing him time for a decision. If you know your line isn’t consistently protecting you, how the hell can you get off an accurate pass in 2 seconds when you also have to keep an eye out before you are pounded into the dirt AGAIN!

Maybe this week our great defense can practice against our offense to tighten things up so Snead or any QB can have a pocket to throw from instead of a wide open path for the defense.

A lot of reporting made it seem like Alabama blew us out of the water, but I am very proud of our defense holding them to only field goals in the red zone and not giving up for one second even as the offense unraveled. Maybe we need a seperate ranking the defense should be ranked 4th and the offense should be left off the poll.

by Hilary on Oct 12, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Any team in the country would kill for our defense."

I actually think ’Bama is pretty pleased with theirs.

Destroying your traditions since [YEAR REDACTED].

by Ivory Tower on Oct 12, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

word

Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.

by kleph on Oct 12, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edit: Any team except Bama would kill for our defense.

Don’t be so nitpicky about a valid comment, Ivory Tower. Bama’s D is good (I will not contest that), but not because of what they did not have to do this weekend.

by Role Player on Oct 12, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not Snead It's Nutt!

Houston Nutt is a quarterback killer, guys he screwed up all the quarterbacks we had at UA under him and he’s doing the same for you guys. Don’t you love the 4th and 10 playcalling. run, run, run.

by arky-chief on Oct 12, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

"Houston Nutt is a Quarterback Killer"

How. Please tell me exactly what it is that he does to “kill” quarterbacks. I’ll be right here. You assholes say this over and over again but don’t qualify it with a single goddamned shred of reason.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 12, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Kill" might be too strong of a word.

He just doesn’t know how to maintain the one he has, ever. The most successful QB that was connected to HDN is Tarvaris Jackson. I think that the comparison of Nutt-era Casey Dick vs. BP-era Casey Dick is telling enough. Now, arky-chief, it’s time to let the Reb fans stew; they don’t want to talk about it. Arkansas fans got by for 10 years by burying our heads. Although, for what it’s worth, I think quite a few Arkansas fans were sad to see the Rebs get dominated so badly. We wanted to beat you on ESPN, not the the SEC Network.

by dxf04 on Oct 12, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

The SEC Network IS

ESPN. And he “maintained” Snead pretty well last year. And I have observed Rebel practices numerous times and can assure you that Nutt has little-to-nothing to do with the quarterbacks. Kent Austin does all of the work there. You’re just going to have to believe me here.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 12, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's owned by ESPN

ESPN Regional, to be exact. It’s not a national telecast. It certainly isn’t airing where I live in Illinois. I know the difference between ESPN and the SEC Network. You’re just going to have to believe me here.

by dxf04 on Oct 12, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN regional? Hardly.

Upgrade your cable package, friend.

I live in DC and get every game.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 12, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here, I'll help you out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_Network
The SEC network is not ESPN. It replaced the Raycom Sports game of the week, which was a regional telecast. Granted, it was “regional” in the loosest sense of the word, but regional none-the-less. I wouldn’t have to update my cable package if the game was on ESPN, but it’s not. Thanks for proving my point.

by dxf04 on Oct 12, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok but technically there is no "SEC Network" in the sense that

there is a Big 10 Network or an NFL Network—that is, a network which is dedicated to a particular subject matter (in this case, the SEC) year-round. All they do is take the ESPNU or Raycom logo and swap it with the SEC/ESPN thingy.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 12, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So now you want to argue semantics? The damn thing is called the SEC Network, and it’s owned by ESPN Regional. No, it’s not a dedicated channel, but that doesn’t change anything. Hell, you’re the one who ran his mouth about “the SEC Network IS ESPN”. Is it that difficult to admit you’re wrong? Hell, you don’t even have to admit it. The real question is: is it that hard for you to shut-up when you’re proven to be wrong?

by dxf04 on Oct 12, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every time I have watched the "SEC Network,"

my channel dial has been switched to an ESPN channel, whether that be ESPNU, ESPN2, or whatever. Here’s what you don’t get: where I live, Raycom still exists. It shows ACC games. It has always showed ACC games here. Locally broadcast SEC games do, not, exist here.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 13, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the record, I don’t believe you. I don’t think you realize that the “SEC on ESPN” (meaning their 15 year contract) is not the same thing as the “SEC Network”. ESPNU, by the way, is also owned by ESPN Regional (which is not ESPN). Here’s a list of SEC Network markets: http://www.secsports.com/news/espn-regional-tv-and-sec-introduce-sec-network-.aspx
Look at the games that are broadcast under the auspices of the SEC Network; there’s a reasons that they’re not shown on ESPN or ESPN2. On the off chance that you’re telling the truth (and not just trying to save face), I would contact my cable company and demand to know why I saw Western Kentucky at Tennessee instead of what the rest of the country saw.
What you don’t get: Just because you see it on TV (and I have my doubts about that), doesn’t mean everyone sees it on TV. This started because you shot off about how “the SEC Network IS ESPN”, and everything that’s come out of your mouth since has done everything to prove that it’s not.

by dxf04 on Oct 13, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, it doesn't fucking matter anyway.

There is no “SEC Network,” just broadcasts which appear on various channels and bear an SEC logo. That’s my point. It’s called the SEC Network, but it isn’t a network at all.

And regardless of “where” you wanted to beat us, you won’t.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair...

…even owned by ESPN the broadcast quality is no better than it was in the Raycom/LF/Fuckin’ JP days. Do they still send sideline updates to the press box via carrier pigeon, or did they finally upgrade to telegraph?

And rumor has it Austin may be gone at the end of the season.

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Oct 12, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Explaining Nutt.

I"m not trying to dis Ole Miss 2day, im just trying to tell you guys that with HDN at the helm you will never develop a great quarterback, He doesn’t know how to call the plays to match a quarterbacks skill. Remember the we had Mustain the #2 qb in the 07 class, did he let Malazan design and offense to match his skill? Hell no. He loves 3 yards and a cloud of dust. His play calling will never match Sneads ability.

by arky-chief on Oct 12, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Mustain is a TERRIBLE example

and you know it. If Pete “I’ve coached two Heisman winning quarterbacks alongside a few others who are currently NFL starters” Carrol can’t develop the guy, then he’s God-awful at quarterback.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 12, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mustain

RCR, Nutt did the same thing at UA when he came here with Danny Fords leftovers, he coached them up to a great 1st year then when the expectations came the next year he did the samething that he’s doing to you guys this year. Watch out for the preacher man! LOL

by arky-chief on Oct 12, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

RCR

No, i think that Mustain was a system qb that Nutt recruited (Malahzan also) then didn’t let his offensive cord. call the plays that fitted his style. The man cannot let that part go since he was a offensive cord. before at Boise State. And that leads to sorry playcalling thus killing good qbs. The only one that he quote developed in 10 years here was Matt Jones and he was a freak of nature who could improvise but couldn’t throw straight. You guys are gonna see my friend.

by arky-chief on Oct 12, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

No, they won't see. They're too stupid.

Example:
Blabbering an idiotic statement like Mustain sucks, only because of the 3rd string situation he finds himself in at USC, is absolutely the dumbest comment i’ve heard yet.
USC’s talent at the QB position is far more talented than any, that’s ANY of the other div. 1 teams in the country.
Florida, nor Texas, OU, Alabama or LSU or any of the like for that matter can say their’s is equel.
I thought even Ghost knew football better than this, but evidently not. In his lame attempt to protect his head coach from such outlandish gossip that suggest he just might be a nightmare in waiting for young undeveloped QBs, he ignores the fact that as we speak, there’s a guy named Sam Cassell starting for the Kansas City Cheifs.
If I remember correctly, Sam watched from the sideline a good portion of his college career, holding a clipboard for Carroll, watching as a couple of guys named Lienert and Booty soaked up all the glory.
Not too shabby for a 3rd string guy.
Ghost, If there’s some undeniable difference between Cassell and Mustain the rest of us aren’t aware of, please let us know. I know i’d sure like to know, because you can bet your ass if Mr. Snead were at USC instead of Mustain, you’d see the exact same 3rd string suckage, so to speak, you claim to see from Mustain.. And please, don’t be so naive as to believe otherwise. You’ve got Rebel fans calling for Snead’s head this very moment, begging for the replacement of him with Tapp or Stanley? Please.

Here’s the deal. Your comments are unrealistic, to say the least, because the point to the whole conversation began with someone stating that Nutt had an uncanny ability to kill, destroy, underdevelope, ruin a good QB or whatever. That statement holds true regardless of the situation with Mustain.
Do you really want us to buy into this “Nutt has very little to do with developing the QB, Coach Austin is the guy, I know because I watch practice thing”? Really?
I suppose in your little world, the development of a QB has absolutely nothing to do with the playcalling, even though it only dictates the very exact game situations the QB experiences.
Who knew?

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 13, 2009 5:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Matt Cassell is the ONE EXAMPLE

over the last bazillion years that a 4-year backup at QB was drafted and had some NFL success. You foolishly cling to that one single example to justify your bizarre Mustain love.

Occam’s Razor, Gonzo, is a logical process which supports the idea that the argument which makes the fewest assumptions is likely to be the most logical and verifiable. Your argument is that “Mitch Mustain was and still is a good quarterback but we’ll never see it because Houston Nutt and Frank Broyles did whatever they could to sabotoge the young man forcing him to flee to USC where the aftermath of the Nutts can still be felt with Mustain being third in the depth chart behind a guy who fucked his knee up and a true freshman but that’s OK because USC has badass quarterback talent anyway and, come draft time, all of you suckers are really gonna see what’s up when Mitch Mustain becomes the new Matt Cassell!”

My argument is that “Mitch Mustain was overrated as a quarterback coming out of high school.”

Now, applying Occam’s Razor, what do we learn?

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 13, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

As usual, you remarkably take my comments out of context.

Let me ask 2 simple questions one last time.
(1) What are the obvious differences in talent between Sam Cassell and Mitch Mustain that would suggest Mustain sucks as a QB?
(2) What is your own personal assesment of how playcalling affects the exact situations of a QB’s experiences within a ballgame?
Simple enough? Whoops, that was 3.

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't judge their talent Gonzo, because I've never seen them play in college

outside of Mustain’s freshman year (IN WHICH HE FUCKING SUCKED).

As for your second question, it all depends on the quarterback. Some guys are just plug-n-play types who are just puppets for the coach’s system (every Texas Tech quarterback ever coached by Mike Leach) and some guys are literally coaches on the field (the Mannings) when it comes to playcalling.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 14, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's even more proof of such over-rated madness.

http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_13548611

You can apply any method of retardedness you wish to devulge in, just make sure you know what the fuck your talking about before you accidentally open up a can of dumbass.
Horseshit is only good for fertilizer. Always has been, always will be.

Christopher Martin Gonzalez

by GonzoHog on Oct 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome! He is now the 2nd stringer!

He’s still sitting between a true freshman and a guy who is injured.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 14, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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