Is Nutt Going Anywhere?
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2008 9:40 AM EST
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by Whiskey Wednesday on Dec 5, 2008 10:53 AM EST reply actions
by JaxReb on Dec 5, 2008 11:49 AM EST reply actions
How about we get the storie straight first?
First of all, Ghost only showed part of the story. (1st page)
Secondly, there were several other assistant coaches names in the hat, like Will Muschamp.
As far as the talent level goes for Ole Miss, you can thank your ex-coach for that.
As far as the talent level goes for Auburn, you can thank "jetgate" for the fact that they (Auburn officials) ruined a perfectly good recruiting class in '03, which a good portion happen to be 5th year SRs right now.
The fact that Ole Nutty is even being mentioned as a possible candidate for the HC vancancy, is nothing more than pure politics, which goes way back into his coaching days at the UofA.
Jimmy Sexton (Ole Nutty's agent) has been throwing Nutt's name around for years. LSU and Nebraska also come to mind as possible schools in the past, when that idiot really wasn't going anywhere.
That was just a ploy by Sexton to get Nutt's name out there.
With mediocra records at the UofA, who really believes those schools, as big a football name as they have, were really that interested?
Besides, I don't think Cody Burns or Lee Ziemba want to play for Nutt anyway, considering they left the state to get better coaching.
It's really nice to know the recruiting failures of Nutt are in the past.
GO HOGS GO!!!!! and FUCK YOU NUTT!!!!!
I remember Ole Nutty talking about recruiting picking up after the 2000 Cotton Bowl, just like he's doing right now. I wonder if it'll happen this time?
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 12:26 PM EST reply actions
"there were several other assistant coaches names in the hat"
Nobody suggested that Nutt was the only candidate.
"That was just a ploy by Sexton to get Nutt's name out there."
You mean an agent was *gasp* doing his job?! Say it isn't so, Gonzohog! Agents represent and promote their clients in order to pursue financial and career advancements. What Sexton is doing is not in any way unusual or nefarious.
"Besides, I don't think Cody Burns or Lee Ziemba want to play for Nutt anyway"
If you think athletic directors give a flying fuck about what two players (one of whom being a shitrageous quarterback) think then you're sadly mistaken. Of course, you Hogs let Mitch Mustain's bellyaching to an AD drive you all crazy so, perhaps I should have assumed you'd say something like that.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2008 12:38 PM EST reply actions
When he was at Arkansas, Nutt's name would mysteriously pop up in association with pretty much any job opening...probably whether he was actually interested or not.
Bottom line - I'd be really, really surprised if Nutt left a pretty good situation at Ole Miss for a pretty crazy one at Auburn, even if Auburn does have a higher national profile.
Does the Auburn AD have Ed Orgeron's number handy?
by Razorback Expas on Dec 5, 2008 12:38 PM EST reply actions
I think it's in our collective best interests to get Eddie O on the plains as a head coach. It would take some serious, serious work but, if accomplished, we both could mark the Auburn game as "W's" on our calendars.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2008 12:41 PM EST reply actions
I totally agree. Let's set up www.hireorgeron.com and then sit back and watch the groundswell of popular support build up to epic proportions.
by Razorback Expats on Dec 5, 2008 12:44 PM EST reply actions
It also doesn't suprise me that my comments are always twisted around to sound like something inferior was said.
If you don't like the truth, no problem, but it doesn't change anything.
Could it be that I used such vile and crude language against someone's coach or university, much like the administrators of this blog do.
Ohhhh, the shame!!!
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 1:06 PM EST reply actions
by Anonymous on Dec 5, 2008 1:11 PM EST reply actions
by Hunter on Dec 5, 2008 1:12 PM EST reply actions
You beat them by 17. They only scored 10 points. If Mitch Mustain hadn't have taken a single snap Arkansas would have still won that game.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions
http://whatsthefuss.freedomblogging.com/2008/12/04/mike-leach-to-auburn/508/
Who would have thought that Arkansas fans still don't like Houston Nutt? I'm glad they can come to Ole Miss blogs to make sure everyone still knows.
by Arkansas Lost to State on Dec 5, 2008 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Chris Peterson to State. While it's not official, this blog did, in fact, break the Kiffin to UT story before ESPN so they've got credibility.
HT: Hunter
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2008 2:18 PM EST reply actions
What part of "part of" did you not understand?
Do stats alway's tell the Tale? or could it be that as a Fresh. QB, Mustain was pretty impressive with his cool and confidence in front of a hostile, soldout crowd, taking every snap, not to mention not throwing any interceptions early in the season.
Boy, now that should be something the Ole Miss faithful aren't used to.
Arkansas fans hate for Nutt is something Rebel fans will only learn in time.
Most of them deserve a lot better, they just can't comprehend it yet.
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions
by Anonymous on Dec 5, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions
Reading your posts makes my skin crawl, and it's not simply because of your idiotic statements. First, it's spelled "story", not "storie". Second, what is a "mediocra"? Did you mean, perhaps, "mediocre"? Also, how about doing a little bit of research on what you write about in your posts? The quarterback's name is Kodi, not Cody. You are pathetic, and Dickson Street sucks.
by Mr. Shuler Goes to Washington on Dec 5, 2008 2:32 PM EST reply actions
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by Hunter on Dec 5, 2008 3:05 PM EST reply actions
Its been done in the past and its being done now.
Expect this every time a decent job opens up that he has no shot at.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 4:26 PM EST reply actions
by Patridge for Heisman on Dec 5, 2008 5:04 PM EST reply actions
First of all, Shuler's command of the English language lacks a little bit. When you use quotation marks on a word that has a punctuation mark following it the second quotation mark comes after the punctuation mark. That is all for Grammar School.
As for Nutt, everyone knows that Sexton shops Nutt's name out there to get a raise/more money on a regular basis; that's his job.
Seriously, how would you Ole Miss fans feel had Nutt bolted for Auburn and more money?
by Hayden Hodges on Dec 5, 2008 5:51 PM EST reply actions
By the way, "Ole Nutty" is the gayest shit I've seen on the internet in at least a day or two. You are lame.
by ssmund on Dec 5, 2008 6:20 PM EST reply actions
by ssmund on Dec 5, 2008 6:24 PM EST reply actions
"Oooohh, you make my my skin crawl with that bad grammer"
Give it a break. If You can't make someone else look stupid without making yourself look stupid first, then what's the point?
So now that you more superior intellectually gifted people have made it known that your completely satisfied with a quik fix as a HC, rather than take a serious look at the future, maybe some of you would like to wager a small bet of "bragging rights" for next season.
Here's the bet:
Arkansas will have a better record than Ole Miss next season. Any takers?
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 6:32 PM EST reply actions
by Patridge for Heisman on Dec 5, 2008 6:39 PM EST reply actions
For one, Joe Adams nor Tyler Wilson nor Dennis Johnson nor a few of the Warren, AR WR's would've been on the team. All but one of those had significant roles on the offense. None of them wanted to play for Nutt. (Nutt was not well liked by many HS coaches here, believe it or not)
Second, no one can doubt that Petrino worked wonders with the Dick brothers this year and gave DJ Williams the ball a LOT (5 receptions last season, btw).
Nutt left an atrocious defense behind.
However, his offensive inferiority alone, with a lone offensive weapon to use in Michael Smith, would've easily left this team with a worse record than with Petrino.
It's all subjective, though.
However, we've seen the comparison up close and in our face. We knew how bad this team was going to be and how good of a recruiting class Petrino brought over in very short work.
I'll gladly put a couple grand on UA having at least two more wins than Ole Miss in say, 2010.
Give each coach time to get their own players into the program. It will be glaringly obvious to you then how Nutt refuses to work at recruiting.
He was bailed out by Matt Jones, then Darren McFadden (Peyton Hillis in between). All three of them grew up here and were playing for UA no matter who the coach was. That is a fact.
Petrino's first two recruiting classes are going to be better than any that Nutt had in his ten years here. According to recruiting rankings, that is a fact.
Nutt is not a bad coach. He's good. He capped out here and showed no real consistency... because of his poor recruiting. There was no depth, and it's shown this year.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 7:23 PM EST reply actions
I've only seen Nutt's teams show up in a bowl game twice, one being Texas, the other being Mizzou in the Independence bowl several years ago.
I've seen so many pathetic bowl games played against inferior opponents during Nutt's tenure, it is sickening.
Have fun guys, but don't be shocked if you guys come out flat on New Year's Day after celebrating all night.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 7:32 PM EST reply actions
by Patridge for Heisman on Dec 5, 2008 7:35 PM EST reply actions
You are only as good as your players. I've seen teams loaded with great players overcome coaching deficiencies (i.e. Phillip Fulmer), but I've never seen a good coach pick up scrubs from the North Mississippi All-Stars (who played a great show in LR the other night by the way) and win an SEC title.
It just doesn't happen.
Those recruiting rankings aren't gold, but they do matter.
We were told the past ten years they don't matter. I just don't believe that anymore.
Good recruiting classes don't make you a world-beater overnight. What they do is secure you with quality depth, which is vital in the SEC.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 7:47 PM EST reply actions
Your team is winning football games. It's not as shocking as everyone makes it out to be. Ironically, the same situation was present in Nutt's first year here. Danny Ford had the program turned around in terms of talent.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 7:49 PM EST reply actions
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 7:57 PM EST reply actions
You can't spell turd, nor can you form a coherent thought.
Go back to your real world in Dewitt. You've got a Sonic to cruise around all night.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 8:01 PM EST reply actions
We were told for the past three that they do. Perhaps you can see why we're burnt out on "ruhcrootin." Yellow Tail, you are correct in that they are important. Every organization (football team, company, fraternity, etc) must bring in fresh, new members. It's just that the Brent Schaeffers of the world cause us to think twice about the significance of little yellow stars.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2008 8:13 PM EST reply actions
I guess i'm just not as long-winded as you are.
I've never been to Dewitt, and guys my age never use the word Dude, much less in the same sentence with the word coherent.
Why don't you go back to your own home town and shut the fuck up?
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 8:16 PM EST reply actions
Right, and Schaeffer was a transfer, was he not?
I know you've been told about great recruiting class after great recruiting class... well, sometimes they take time to progress. Look at your lines on both sides. They're tough and physical. Nutt's not pulling any miracles there, those are Orgeron's kids.
Orgeron himself would've had a decent year this season. Which is why you guys should be questioning why your administration has already given Nutt a huge raise after one season. (Weis-ish almost, isn't it?)
To completely derail from my point, I think the Rebels were the most physical team that Florida has played all year. Alabama is more physical, which is why I think they'll win tomorrow night.
"Why don't you go back to your own home town and shut the fuck up?"
I may use words like "dude," but at least I'm not a shining example of my hometown's failing school district.
Let me guess again. You're from Dermott.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 9:23 PM EST reply actions
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 5, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions
Trusting the coaches to evaluate talent, along with putting the right emphasis on team need, are just as important as the "little yellow stars", so yes, your right about that.
It'll be interesting to see what type of talent Nutt brings to the table in the next few years, at the QB and WR positions, and how willing he is to use them.
History says not much.
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions
I'm really not sure who shit on your side of the bed this morning, but i'm pretty damn sure it wasn't my fault, and if there's one shining example of anything that's been said between the two of us, it's that you are one smug son of a bitch!
Now I understand that in your little world, it takes a real man to put his thought process to a keyboard in certain manner for all the people to see, but in my world, I was taught to put a fist down a smartasses throat before he could spit out another word of garbage.
If you must know where I live, it's in Greenwood, AR.
I know where the sonic is, if you need directions.
by GonzoHog on Dec 5, 2008 10:05 PM EST reply actions
We told you so.
by Hog Fan on Dec 5, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions
Here's what you don't get: we don't have a real problem with him "raising his skirt" to available teams. Do you have a career? Have you ever used a potential move or promotion to obtain better career opportunities? This shit happens ALL OF THE TIME. You all act like every little thing Houston Nutt has ever done is pure evil.
GET. OVER. HIM.
by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Dec 5, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions
I would seriously like to know what impact (through the fans' eyes and the program in general) it would have on your program if in fact Nutt did leave for Auburn. Thanks.
by Hayden Hodges on Dec 6, 2008 12:24 AM EST reply actions
It wasn't just about the money. Nutt is now the most powerful man in Oxford and he used that power for the betterment of our program today. I thank God we have someone with the clout to put Boone in his place finally.
To answer your question, I'll need to put it in context. Had Nutt left and gone to Auburn, it wouldn't have had shit to do with salaries. It would have had everything to do with Pete Boone breathing down his neck and harassing his assistant coaches. If this had happened, a significant amount of Khayat's athletic and academic donors would have revolted and cut off the money until Boone was either fired or forced to resign. That's what would have happened.
by ssmund on Dec 6, 2008 1:18 AM EST reply actions
My problem is not with Nutt "getting himself a raise." My problem was always that he would throw his name in the ring for every open job on earth, even when he wasn't a candidate. Saban never said Nutt would be a good hire for them. There's no quote on that for a reason. Auburn never had serious interest in him, either. Their fans were in an uproar when his name came up. No way they would've ever pulled that trigger.
Regardless. I just thought that Cutcliffe's inability to recruit was the issue with him... well, pay attention. It looks like it's happening again.
If you guys want tickets to the battle that will go down at an Alma Sonic one bright sunny day, don't bother.
They're free. Just make sure you order a chili cheese coney.
I love the redneck "fist down your throat" strategy. The thing with rednecks, as some of you few smart Ole Miss fans know, is that they each piss off the wrong person at least once.
You're going to have to meet me somewhere like Russelville though Gonzo. I really like the Whattaburger there. I'd like to like to grab a burger after I embarrass you.
For someone that doesn't say "dude," you sure have a fat lip fucktard.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 6, 2008 1:58 AM EST reply actions
by Anonymous on Dec 6, 2008 2:47 AM EST reply actions
Anyone who knows anything about colege football shouldn't be afraid of it either.
I've only seen a couple of responses so far, which is very suprising for this blog. I exspected more.
As far as there being a bright sunny day in Alma, Russleville, or any other town for that matter, is is nothing more than the exspected, but not suprising retoric, of a very gutless and little man.
Everyone knows that now.
by GonzoHog on Dec 6, 2008 8:42 AM EST reply actions
Doesn't that just make your skin crawl?
by GonzoHog on Dec 6, 2008 8:48 AM EST reply actions
by Anonymous on Dec 6, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions
I am not small, I've got 13 years of amateur boxing under my belt, I couldn't care less about you wanting to fist people's throats. Just go away and leave these folks -- whom I've honestly found to be decent folk for Ole Mrs fans -- to their own.
by Yellow Tail Swine on Dec 6, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions
Recruiting was just one of Cut's downfalls. His inability to keep a decent staff together played a major role as well. Now, I'm not faulting him for so many of his original assistants leaving for jobs in the NFL. The problem was he replaced them with incompetent, inexperienced coaches that played for him at UT. And, in his six years in Oxford, Cut never hired a decent DC.
This may sound surprising, but sans Eli, that 2003 wouldn't hold a candle to this year's Rebels. There's more talent, speed and depth across the board on this squad.
In fairness, I think a lot of us have decided Cut's lethargic recruiting and staffing decisions stemmed from his poor health. The man was very sickly his last few years at Ole Miss.
At any rate, I can promise you we haven't camped out on Duke boards the way some of your fans have done with every us and Nutt. It's not just this blog. It's Nafoom. It's Scout. It's Rivals. It's EDSBS. It's every comments section on every single article that so much as mentions Houston Nutt on any website, blog, etc. Surely some of you understand how obsessive this appears to the rest of us.
by ssmund on Dec 6, 2008 3:13 PM EST reply actions
Your obviously a lot smaller than you think.
The word "small" can also be used in reference to the quality of character that a person possesses.
Knowone is saying your so-called "skill" makes you gutless. Only your adolesent arrogance.
What makes it a dark, dark day, is when someone that refers to himself as a so-called man, actually has to "talk" a good fight.
Your 13 years of amature boxing mean absolutely nothing in a real fight with no rules or referees.
If you were really just taking up for your "friends", then you should have just made that clear in the beginning, instead of acting like your promoting yourself for the "prick of the day award".
I would have had much, much more respect for that type of "professionalism".
Now surely you can understand that much can't you?
by GonzoHog on Dec 6, 2008 4:34 PM EST reply actions
by shank in ear on Dec 6, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions
You were delirious this summer when you "low-balled" your prediction for the razorbacks at 6-6 during an exchange with Ghost.
You are still delirious if you believe ya'll are going to win more games than the Rebels next year.
Have fun celebrating New Years in the middle of nowhere.
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